Current Events > Fox News making a big deal over Biden picking a dandelion for his wife.

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You: "Donald Trump told people to inject disinfectant!!!!"
Me (Chad): "Where?"
You: *Posts video of Trump talking to a physician about effects of sunlight and disinfectant on the virus and how they might be used in the body, that medical doctors are "looking into", and never tells anyone to do anything*
Me (big brain): But Trump didn't tell anyone to do anything in that video
You (seething): GET LOST TROLL

So is this what the kids call gaslighting?

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Guys, Trump didnt use the exact phrase inject yourself with bleach so therefore I win, even though thats what he said. Take that liberals.
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Donald Trump literally talks like a mob boss giving himself plausible deniability and keeping up his legitimate businessman act. And people somehow buy that shit.

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sutree posted...

You: *Posts video of Trump talking to a physician about effects of sunlight and disinfectant on the virus and how they might be used in the body, that medical doctors are "looking into", and never tells anyone to do anything*

And you are saying that others are misrepresenting the video? This comment makes it seem like Trump sat down to have a conversation with a doctor about treatments, not Trump giving a rambling press conference that is designed to share information with the general public.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Picks up the weed? He gave drugs to our First Lady? How dare he!!!!

I wonder if we'll ever have a president tuat actively smokes weed publically

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Trump spelled coffee wrong on Twitter and liberals went wild with it.

PesticideDream posted...

Trump spelled coffee wrong on Twitter and liberals went wild with it.

No he didn't
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I wonder if we'll ever have a president tuat actively smokes weed publically

Probably not. Even if it's legal, it'd be like showing up drunk to work. It's not a good image still. What you do in your own time is fine, but professional decorum is always going to be a thing.

Then again, Trump was probably liquored up half the damn time he gave press conferences, so who knows?

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BlackJackCat posted...

Then again, Trump was probably liquored up half the damn time he gave press conferences, so who knows?

More like coked up!!

I mean, look at his kids...

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PesticideDream posted...

Trump spelled coffee wrong on Twitter and liberals went wild with it.

This isn't a good example to use if you're defending Trump and his administration. Trump's Press Secretary at the time Sean Spicer came out the next day trying to convince people that Covfefe had a secret meaning that certain people will understand. It's another "The Onion wouldn't be able to make up a story this ridiculous" story from Trump.

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pistachio12 posted...

And you are saying that others are misrepresenting the video?

Yes, they clearly are. They claim that he was telling people to inject disinfectant, which he never does.

pistachio12 posted...

This comment makes it seem like Trump sat down to have a conversation with a doctor about treatments, not Trump giving a rambling press conference that is designed to share information with the general public.

I didn't mean to make it sound like that; it is indeed a rambling press conference. However, he never suggest to the public that they should start injecting disinfectant. He does indeed converse with a physician, and repeatedly confirms with her that they are going to "test" and "check" the effects of disinfectant and UV light on the body. And again near the end he clarifies that they are "going to have to use medical doctors" in order to check/test these things.

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sutree posted...

I didn't mean to make it sound like that; it is indeed a rambling press conference. However, he never suggest to the public that they should start injecting disinfectant. He does indeed converse with a physician, and repeatedly asks her if they are going to "test" and "check" the effects of disinfectant and UV light on the body. And again near the end he clarifies that they are "going to have to use medical doctors" in order to check/test these things.

And the goalpost is moved again....

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Bishop9800 posted...

And the goalpost is moved again....

By you? I haven't changed any claims at all.

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sutree posted...

By you? I haven't changed any claims at all.

No, by you

But please continue to pretend and defend your orange god.

Next thing you'll tell us is that he never recommend hydroxychloroquine for covid...
I

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This is boomer type shit lmao, Republicans are the worst

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Bishop9800 posted...

No, by you

But please continue to pretend and defend your orange god.

wtf are you talking about
I'd ask you to show where I changed my claims but given the history of this thread you'd just call me a troll

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sutree posted...

I didn't mean to make it sound like that; it is indeed a rambling press conference. However, he never suggest to the public that they should start injecting disinfectant. He does indeed converse with a physician, and repeatedly confirms with her that they are going to "test" and "check" the effects of disinfectant and UV light on the body. And again near the end he clarifies that they are "going to have to use medical doctors" in order to check/test these things.

Right. He didn't suggest people should inject disinfectants into their body. He was just wondering if it would be a good idea or not. The point is that every kindergartener in America can tell you that it's a horrible idea. The next day, by the way, he claimed that he was CLEARLY being sarcastic here. It was just a joke to inject disinfectants. And after this event he canceled coronavirus briefings for a few months out of embarrassment.

It's all made worse that Dr Birx had no choice but to pretend in her reaction to him that it's not a completely unreasonable idea. Both her and Fauci have discussed at length in recent months how they had to tiptoe around contradicting any of the ridiculous things Trump was saying, or else feel his wrath. Which we obviously saw toward the end of 2020 when Trump was very outright smearing Fauci. The disinfectant injection thing is just a quintessential example of the clusterfuck of a Covid response under Trump.

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Kuuko posted...

Right. He didn't suggest people should inject disinfectants into their body. He was just wondering if it would be a good idea or not. The point is that every kindergartener in America can tell you that it's a horrible idea. The next day, by the way, he claimed that he was CLEARLY being sarcastic here. It was just a joke to inject disinfectants. And after this event he canceled coronavirus briefings for a few months out of embarrassment.

It's all made worse that Dr Birx had no choice but to pretend in her reaction to him that it's not a completely unreasonable idea. Both her and Fauci have discussed at length in recent months how they had to tiptoe around contradicting any of the ridiculous things Trump was saying, or else feel his wrath. Which we obviously saw toward the end of 2020 when Trump was very outright smearing Fauci. The disinfectant injection thing is just a quintessential example of the clusterfuck of a Covid response under Trump.

Glad we're in agreement.

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sutree posted...

I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 400, Alex.

Instead of acting holier than thou, you could have just stated from the start: "Trump never told people to inject bleach, he just brought it up as a possible remedy on national television in a press conference designed to inform the general public about the coronavirus."

Funny thing is that dandelion was planted there... BY GOD, to reveal what petty children the Republicans are.

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pistachio12 posted...

Instead of acting holier than thou, you could have just stated from the start: "Trump never told people to inject bleach, he just brought it up as a possible remedy on national television in a press conference designed to inform the general public about the coronavirus."

I mean when I did state that they just quadrupled down on their false assertion.

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They have absolutely nothing against Biden and it's great to watch.

shockthemonkey posted...

Dude this is sad. Youre doing a pathetic job and youre not fooling anyone. Youre wasting your time deliberately in hopes of wasting other peoples time.

Pardon?


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You see what Trump meant to say was....
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I always find it hilarious when Trump supporters keep insisting that Trump is speaking meta-textually, yet keep doing what he talks about literally.


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GranolaPanic posted...

He was directly talking to Dr. Birx wanting her approval of his crazy idea. Watch her reaction. She was in disbelief over how someone could be that stupid to suggest such a thing.

He later said he was joking about it after the massive backlash he received.

And people did in fact drink bleach after his comments. Calls to poison control and hospitalizations rose sharply from toxic chemical exposure immediately afterwards.

Trump supporters are straight-up out of 1984.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Trump says dumb, crazy, scary, patently false things. Full stop. That's it. There's nothing more to it than that.

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DarkRoast posted...

Trump supporters are straight-up out of 1984.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

"He didn't say what he said, he just said domething to that effect that a large amount of people, including his supporters, took that way. What he actually meant was something else. And that rambling incoherent guy was the best President, God Bless Him."

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

"He didn't say what he said, he just said domething to that effect that a large amount of people, including his supporters, took that way. What he actually meant was something else. And that rambling incoherent guy was the best President, God Bless Him."

You know that guy that rambles on a bunch and you have to constantly explain what he actually means? That guy is a real straight shooter and says it how it is.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

You know that guy that rambles on a bunch and you have to constantly explain what he actually means? That guy is a real straight shooter and says it how it is.

"Also I never watched that [literal raw, uncut footage of Trump speaking] because they only showed it on Fake News, and I watch OAN and read Epoch Times (literally the news blog for a literal doomsday cult)"

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

"He didn't say what he said, he just said domething to that effect that a large amount of people, including his supporters, took that way. What he actually meant was something else. And that rambling incoherent guy was the best President, God Bless Him."

I never shook the feeling he didn't really understand the effect he was having to the full extent. I think he was calculating on a certain level, but the bleach injection thing makes no sense on any level, since he had to know by that point that:

1) Liberals were skeptical of him, even putting him under a microscope, and would mistrust anything he said immediately (not for bad reasons)
2) If anyone did actually follow his suggestions, the only people who would likely follow his joke of a suggestion would be conservatives, the people who liked him. So poisoning your own followers is just dumb.

It felt more like a stupid off the cuff remark that he had no grasp of. Not defending or justifying it, because for fucks sake, this was the president of the United States, but it always felt like he just didn't know better. There is other stuff he said/didn't say that was more damaging, like the "good people both sides" thing, not wearing a mask, and confusing the fuck out of the COVID response with overly optimistic/outright false information.

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Stupid off the cuff remarks on subjects for which he has no grasp are pretty much Trump's entire presidency in a nutshell.

This is a man who has literally only one strategy to anything, which is to keep talking until people turn the cameras off. It's basically fire hosing in human form.

And what's funny is, compounded with his complete lack of knowledge about basically anything, is the fact that nearly every expert around him is fired or resigns within months, so he never even has a consistent source of information, nor does he listen to them anyway.

Which makes it all the more hilariously ironic that his fans actually believe he's always several steps ahead of everyone else. The man is so ignorant and incompetent, he sort of loops around and convinces people that he's brilliant.

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He was definitely unqualified for his job, solely based on his character. If it wasn't for the fact that he was actually fairly methodical about energizing the alt-right, I would believe he was just a spoiled rich brat lacking self-awareness. He is a spoiled rich brat lacking self-awareness, but nothing is ever enough for him. It's a great quality for a selfish bastard, bad for leadership.

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BlackJackCat posted...

He was definitely unqualified for his job, solely based on his character. If it wasn't for the fact that he was actually fairly methodical about energizing the alt-right, I would believe he was just a spoiled rich brat lacking self-awareness. He is a spoiled rich brat lacking self-awareness, but nothing is ever enough for him. It's a great quality for a selfish bastard, bad for leadership.

I honestly don't think he did anything to energize the base, instead he was the useful idiot for a very clear, highly organized misinformation campaign that was eagerly capitalized upon by a small group of very influential hyperpartisan conservative media outlets.

It was the perfect storm of stupidity for people like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon.

The fascists made a power play, using a candidate they thought they could legislate through. Unfortunately for them, his ego/persona was surpassed only by his incompetence.

In retrospect, I suspect the answer to a lot of questions can be found with Rudy Giuliani's contacts.

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