Current Events > Honestly, it's unfair that people can get days off for religious reasons.

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Yes, I would love to work every single Sunday from now on because there aren't enough people free on Sunday.

I guess places would just have to shut down on Sundays if enough employees said they couldn't work on the Lord's Day.

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You better believe it

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God took the day off on Sunday, so why can't I?

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I'm pulling a Koufax

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If you want Sundays off you can claim the same religion, it's not like they can make you prove it

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eston posted...

If you want Sundays off you can claim the same religion, it's not like they can make you prove it

I did this years ago when I worked a shit minimum wage job. We had a lazy fuck coworker who said he was Catholic so he wouldn't have to work Sundays. I figured why the fuck should I have to and converted as well, lol

Rathinor posted...

he was Catholic so he wouldn't have to work Sundays.

Actual Catholic from Ireland
I would have punched him for that tbh

Unfair

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wah its unfair

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someone wants sunday off to go sit in a pew basically participating in theater, but i cant get sunday off to go to improv

shits fucked

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can't beat em, join em my dude



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Would you ok with workplaces discriminating based on your religious beliefs? Is it ok for Chickfila to not hire atheists?

I mean, if that's considered unfair...there are lots of practices, meant to avoid workplace discrimination, that could be seen as unfair...

Also, what religion says you can't work on Sunday? I know some Jewish people follow the Sabbath, but I didn't think that extended outside of those who are Jewish
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WingsOfGood posted...

Would you ok with workplaces discriminating based on your religious beliefs? Is it ok for Chickfila to not hire atheists?

Lmao. If you want to go down this path I'd argue you're actually discriminating against people who aren't religious by making them work sundays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfOVIH_ibGM

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Axiom posted...

Lmao. If you want to go down this path I'd argue you're actually discriminating against people who aren't religious by making them work sundays

That is illogical. If work lets a Muslim off to celebrate Ramadan but doesn't also let a Christian off, they have discriminated the Christian? No.

But if work tells a Muslim they cannot celebrate their holy religious day or they are fired, that is discrimination.

Also, Diwali.

No what's illogical is one person getting privileges another doesn't. That is literally discrimination. No one should be able to get off work for religion. It's discriminatory that people are forced to work on days cause others won't

people are going the wrong way and saying that religious people shouldnt get days off, when the opposite is the obviously better argument, that it should be easier for a human being to get a fucking day off of work

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Axiom posted...

Lmao. If you want to go down this path I'd argue you're actually discriminating against people who aren't religious by making them work sundays

Yeah, this is already discrimination, it's just positive for the people affected by the policy.

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Axiom posted...

No what's illogical is one person getting privileges another doesn't. That is literally discrimination. No one should be able to get off work for religion. It's discriminatory that people are forced to work on days cause others won't

So, you want them to fire Muslims who want Ramadan off.
And that isn't discriminating against their religious belief?

FYI, that would mean the policy of the workplace is NO MUSLIMS ALLOWED.

But Axiom said that is not discrimination.

hockeybub89 posted...

I guess places would just have to shut down on Sundays if enough employees said they couldn't work on the Lord's Day.

Seems to work out pretty well for chick-fil-a.

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16-BITTER posted...

How hard is it to just lie

If this worked then entire workplaces would just be deserted on "Insert day your religion considers "holy""

Hell I'll start a religion and make entire weekends my holiday er I mean holy day

CalypsoDoom posted...

...do you mean Eid bc Muslims aren't asking for a month off of work lmao

All I know is there is some day related to that which is taken off. Then for Indian offshore workers I believe they do that with Diwali.
Jewish people have Yom Kippur.
etc, etc

Basically, most religions have a day that they need to observe unless they are like not actually religious of their religion.
If a workplace says they can't take those days off, they might as well say we don't hire people of these religions.

https://ing.org/working-with-muslim-employees/

Muslim Holidays

Twice a year, first at the end of Ramadan and again during the time of the pilgrimage, Muslims celebrate Eid, meaning festival, for a period of three to four days. The first holiday, Eid al-Fitr, the Festival of Breaking the Fast, comes at the conclusion of Ramadan and celebrates the successful completion of the month of fasting. The second holiday, Eid-ul-Adha, the Festival of the Sacrifice, is celebrated at the time of the Hajj or pilgrimage to Mecca by Muslims who did not go on the pilgrimage. These holidays are celebrated with congregational prayers, fair-like celebrations, visiting friends, and exchanging gifts. Muslim employees may request to take time off for the first day of the holidays twice a year for these celebrations, just as employees of other faiths take days off for their holidays. Both celebrations also follow the lunar calendar, so the dates move eleven days earlier each year and are determined by the sighting of the new moon. Adding Muslim holidays to any corporate calendar and avoiding scheduling important meetings on the holidays is greatly appreciated.

Yea I guess it is eid.

Also, what do you axiom and tc think of prayer rooms?

"I can't believe people believe in a sky daddy in the year 2020 +1, they need to wake up and realize their beliefs aren't real"
"WTF they get to take a day off of work to worship their sky daddy?! I want a day off too so I can do nothing all day instead of being productive!!!!"

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CalypsoDoom posted...

prayer rooms should absolutely be a thing. no one is saying to strip religious people of every accommodation they need to fulfill their faith.

Thought the point was giving one group of people a special thing based on their faith. Infact the point of a prayer room is so that a religious person can take a break during work hours and sit there and pray.

What if the boss caught an atheist sitting around in the prayer room, taking a break but obviously not praying and told them to go work? This is not unfair?

Bananana posted...

people are going the wrong way and saying that religious people shouldnt get days off, when the opposite is the obviously better argument, that it should be easier for a human being to get a fucking day off of work

Someone needs to work. I just don't think I should be stuck working every Sunday because some people say God prevents them from it.

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Lying is wrong and I'd never be able to make that story work. It would also be unfair to the other poor co-workers stuck with Sundays.

WingsOfGood posted...

Also, what do you axiom and tc think of prayer rooms?

I have no problem with accommodations at work. Just show up at work. They can ask for days off like everyone else and get them if it's possible and fair, just like a less religious person.

MushroomMuncher posted...

"I can't believe people believe in a sky daddy in the year 2020 +1, they need to wake up and realize their beliefs aren't real"
"WTF they get to take a day off of work to worship their sky daddy?! I want a day off too so I can do nothing all day instead of being productive!!!!"

I work my ass off at work. I deserve Sundays too

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Im taking this Friday off for Shosh Koshanna. Its one of our top fifteen holiest days of the year.

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Let me tell you the best thing about secularism
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Me, I just lie.

For example I treat my birthday as a religious holiday. Bare in mind I'm agnostic atheist and have negative opinions about actual religions.

Luckily my current job is very flexible, but even my past jobs I just told my boss I'm not coming on a specific date so I need pto. Had one boss schedule me anyway. Informed her feel free to schedule me, but letting you know in advanced I'm calling out lol.

I didn't have a history calling out, so she had nothing on me. Refuse to work on national me day.

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WingsOfGood posted...

Also, what do you axiom and tc think of prayer rooms?

As a Satanist, you absolutely should have a space set aside for religious people to observe their duty to their gods.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I work my ass off at work

Not enough apparently

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If you take the time to be honest to put stock into part history and part world cultures you are definitely deserving of time off

but if you just want a day off so you can get micro pieces of poop not discernible to the human eye stuck under your finger nail and eat doritos all day then naw b

getcho ass back into work mode

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Just like its unfair thar your smomer buddy can take an hour to smoke everyday and you cant. Its just one of those things that works the way it does.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

Just like its unfair thar your smomer buddy can take an hour to smoke everyday and you cant. Its just one of those things that works the way it does.

Thankfully smoking is banned at work. I use to want to wring the necks of some co-workers at my previous jobs. Be a drug addict on your own time.

MushroomMuncher posted...

Not enough apparently

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I mean if they are using their pto for it, who cares? as long as it's discussed with the manager/team ahead of time and work is spread evenly, it's all good.

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I know the feeling well.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Just like its unfair thar your smomer buddy can take an hour to smoke everyday and you cant. Its just one of those things that works the way it does.

Came to say this, it's bs because even if they need a 10 minute smoke break twice a day that's like 10 minutes to the smoke area and back. So yeah, basically a free hour of work.

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If you don't mind, what kind of job do you work Hockey?

I always thought places would fire people wanting off every Sunday if required to work Sunday.

Arcanine2009 posted...

I mean if they are using their pto for it, who cares? as long as it's discussed with the manager/team ahead of time and work is spread evenly, it's all good.

but if it's every Sunday, that's weird. They are working one day a week on another day right?

We've had some turnover and corporate keeps taking hours, so we have only 3 technicians that can work on Sundays while balancing hours through the other 6 days of the week, so that means I'm basically stuck with every Sunday. One girl that takes off would absolutely no-show and raise a stink up the ladder if we tried to make her work a Sunday. Not only that, she asks for other days off and just assume she should get them every time she asks. Everyone should get days off and she is extremely selfish for such a God-fearing woman.

WingsOfGood posted...

If you don't mind, what kind of job do you work Hockey?

I always thought places would fire people wanting off every Sunday if required to work Sunday.

I work at a pharmacy.

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