Current Events > Tulsi Gabbard under fire for saying Muslims were behind Armenian genocide.

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AtelierRyza3462 04/25/21 12:44:33 PM #51:	Users like Unfair and Famfam have posted actual facts, yet there still be denial, why? --- Now Playing: Atelier Ryza 2 / Outer Worlds /// https://imgur.com/tNNXYaz https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeArmMVf/ / https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeDNHwmu/ - pon/pone <cite>AtelierRyza3462 posted [p:953212470] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Users like Unfair and Famfam have posted actual facts, yet there still be denial, why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne 04/25/21 12:46:17 PM #52:	My aloha is with posters everywhere rubbing exactly 2 braincells together to formulate a defense of tulsi --- http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1759573/hennelol2.gif http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1303533/hennefight_medium.gif <cite>Chad-Henne posted [p:953212526] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>My aloha is with posters everywhere rubbing exactly 2 braincells together to formulate a defense of tulsi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/25/21 12:47:07 PM #53:	AtelierRyza3462 posted... Users like Unfair and Famfam have posted actual facts, yet there still be denial, why? Do you want an argument, or do you just want a bunch of strangers to call you stupid to fulfill the inscrutable need you seem to have for any attention, regardless of how negative? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:953212549] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>AtelierRyza3462 posted... </cite> <quote>Users like Unfair and Famfam have posted actual facts, yet there still be denial, why?</quote>Do you want an argument, or do you just want a bunch of strangers to call you stupid to fulfill the inscrutable need you seem to have for any attention, regardless of how negative? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 04/25/21 1:12:59 PM #54:	Antifar posted... AtelierRyza3462 posted... And these people are? Not Islamists --- currently watching: Jujutsu Kaisen (Dub) ~ 86 EIGHTY-SIX (Sub) ~ JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Dub) <cite>teep_ posted [p:953213303] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>AtelierRyza3462 posted... </cite> <quote> And these people are?</quote>Not Islamists</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 04/25/21 1:19:20 PM #55:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Yeah, no: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was explicitly seeking to forge a secular Turkish nation. Its not even accurate to say the Ottoman Empire was the perpetrator, as he acted on his own and was disavowed by the (by then powerless) Ottoman government in then-still-Constantinople. The genocide was partially a response to the Ententes plan to create a large Armenia, give a big chunk of Anatolia to Greece, and leave the Ottoman Empire a smallish rump state. The Turks committed the most atrocities because they ultimately won. It was all driven by toxic nationalism and a reaction against the failed multicultural empires of Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans. Second paragraph is spot on. But the first paragraph seems to be attributing blame for the Armenian genocide to Kemal and if it is, then it's way off because your chronology is skewed. When the mass deportations and killings of Armenians began, Kemal was commander of the 19th Division on the Gallipoli peninsula and was busy fighting against Allied forces in the Battle of Gallipoli, not organizing death marches across Anatolia. If the Armenian genocide was the pet project of any one individual, then it could be said the man responsible was Talaat Pasha, Minister of the Interior. --- ~.\|o <cite>Criminalt posted [p:953213476] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, no: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was explicitly seeking to forge a secular Turkish nation. Its not even accurate to say the Ottoman Empire was the perpetrator, as he acted on his own and was disavowed by the (by then powerless) Ottoman government in then-still-Constantinople. The genocide was partially a response to the Ententes plan to create a large Armenia, give a big chunk of Anatolia to Greece, and leave the Ottoman Empire a smallish rump state. The Turks committed the most atrocities because they ultimately won. It was all driven by toxic nationalism and a reaction against the failed multicultural empires of Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans.</quote>Second paragraph is spot on. But the first paragraph seems to be attributing blame for the Armenian genocide to Kemal and if it is, then it's way off because your chronology is skewed. When the mass deportations and killings of Armenians began, Kemal was commander of the 19th Division on the Gallipoli peninsula and was busy fighting against Allied forces in the Battle of Gallipoli, not organizing death marches across Anatolia. If the Armenian genocide was the pet project of any one individual, then it could be said the man responsible was Talaat Pasha, Minister of the Interior. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/25/21 1:19:55 PM #56:	Background_Guy posted... This is you pretending to be stupid, right? that's his schtick, yea. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:953213498] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>This is you pretending to be stupid, right?</quote>that's his schtick, yea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 04/25/21 1:24:52 PM #57:	Gabbard proving once again why she's trash. She knows what she's doing with that tweet, and her defenders do, too. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:953213647] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Gabbard proving once again why she's trash. She knows what she's doing with that tweet, and her defenders do, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 04/25/21 1:27:10 PM #58:	Antifar posted... When she's wrong, she's wrong This Shes like 100% wrong <cite>What_ posted [p:953213725] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>When she's wrong, she's wrong</quote>This Shes like 100% wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/25/21 1:35:53 PM #59:	Musourenka posted... Gabbard proving once again why she's trash. She knows what she's doing with that tweet, and her defenders do, too. that's exactly it...the "well actually she's technically....BLAH BLAH BLAH" people know damn well what she's doing. Even more hilarious that they're trying to say those calling her out are acting like Trumpers, when she's taking a page out of the Trump playbook with a comment like this lol. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:953213980] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Musourenka posted... </cite> <quote>Gabbard proving once again why she's trash. She knows what she's doing with that tweet, and her defenders do, too.</quote>that's exactly it...the "well actually she's technically....BLAH BLAH BLAH" people know damn well what she's doing. Even more hilarious that they're trying to say those calling her out are acting like Trumpers, when she's taking a page out of the Trump playbook with a comment like this lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 04/25/21 2:09:09 PM #60:	Criminalt posted... Second paragraph is spot on. But the first paragraph seems to be attributing blame for the Armenian genocide to Kemal and if it is, then it's way off because your chronology is skewed. When the mass deportations and killings of Armenians began, Kemal was commander of the 19th Division on the Gallipoli peninsula and was busy fighting against Allied forces in the Battle of Gallipoli, not organizing death marches across Anatolia. If the Armenian genocide was the pet project of any one individual, then it could be said the man responsible was Talaat Pasha, Minister of the Interior. Yep, I got timelines and people(and genocides) all tangled up. Thanks for the correction. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:953214927] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Criminalt posted... </cite> <quote>Second paragraph is spot on. But the first paragraph seems to be attributing blame for the Armenian genocide to Kemal and if it is, then it's way off because your chronology is skewed. When the mass deportations and killings of Armenians began, Kemal was commander of the 19th Division on the Gallipoli peninsula and was busy fighting against Allied forces in the Battle of Gallipoli, not organizing death marches across Anatolia. If the Armenian genocide was the pet project of any one individual, then it could be said the man responsible was Talaat Pasha, Minister of the Interior.</quote>Yep, I got timelines and people(and genocides) all tangled up. Thanks for the correction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 04/25/21 2:32:57 PM #61:	Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. --- https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb <cite>VTBM posted [p:953215549] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 04/25/21 2:53:36 PM #62:	VTBM posted... Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. Congrats on not being able to read, no one has denied this. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:953216141] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>VTBM posted...</cite> <quote>Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. </quote> Congrats on not being able to read, no one has denied this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 04/25/21 2:58:27 PM #63:	No one tell her that over 100 years ago, white American owned black slaves. <cite>bknight posted [p:953216303] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>No one tell her that over 100 years ago, white American owned black slaves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cerealmilk 04/25/21 2:59:30 PM #64:	Who cares. This doesn't make Islam any less shitty really. <cite>Cerealmilk posted [p:953216332] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Who cares. This doesn't make Islam any less shitty really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/25/21 3:02:14 PM #65:	Imagine how the vast majority of civilized society would react if people were more worried about what religion the Nazis were, than they were about how bad the Nazis' actions were. And yet that, except with a different group, is exactly what this topic is about. --- [insert J word here] <cite>Trumble posted [p:953216423] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Imagine how the vast majority of civilized society would react if people were more worried about what religion the Nazis were, than they were about how bad the Nazis' actions were. And yet that, except with a different group, is exactly what this topic is about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/25/21 3:18:00 PM #66:	VTBM posted... Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. No one claimed otherwise. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:953216915] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>VTBM posted... </cite> <quote>Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire.</quote>No one claimed otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayTheirNames 04/25/21 3:19:47 PM #67:	VTBM posted... Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire. This is the level of effort right winger have to put in the gin up their support base. Liberals saw the intellectual dishonesty immediately....MAGAs, not so much --- The biggest threat in this country is white supremacy. Warren/Pressley 2028 <cite>SayTheirNames posted [p:953216967] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>VTBM posted... </cite> <quote>Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire.</quote> This is the level of effort right winger have to put in the gin up their support base. Liberals saw the intellectual dishonesty immediately....MAGAs, not so much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 04/25/21 4:21:34 PM #68:	SayTheirNames posted... This is the level of effort right winger have to put in the gin up their support base. Liberals saw the intellectual dishonesty immediately....MAGAs, not so much No, MAGAs know exactly what's going on. They see, but they don't care. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:953218691] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>SayTheirNames posted... </cite> <quote>This is the level of effort right winger have to put in the gin up their support base. Liberals saw the intellectual dishonesty immediately....MAGAs, not so much</quote> No, MAGAs know exactly what's going on. They see, but they don't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 04/25/21 4:32:25 PM #69:	Musourenka posted... No, MAGAs know exactly what's going on. They see, but they don't care. No, this topic made it pretty obvious they have absolutely no clue what the terms Islamism and Islamist mean. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:953219010] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Musourenka posted...</cite> <quote> No, MAGAs know exactly what's going on. They see, but they don't care. </quote> No, this topic made it pretty obvious they have absolutely no clue what the terms Islamism and Islamist mean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cerealmilk 04/25/21 5:50:31 PM #70:	Why would anyone attribute a genocide to a religion that literally tells you its ok to kill non believers in its holy book? Omg I cannot believe they would stoop that low. <cite>Cerealmilk posted [p:953221442] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Why would anyone attribute a genocide to a religion that literally tells you its ok to kill non believers in its holy book? Omg I cannot believe they would stoop that low. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 04/25/21 8:16:48 PM #71:	CrimsonRage posted... bignutzisback is a very dishonest poster, don't respond to him he's also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWs-C3wH3A --- https://imgur.com/hLHUnOI You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:953225667] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonRage posted... </cite> <quote>bignutzisback is a very dishonest poster, don't respond to him</quote> he's also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWs-C3wH3A </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 04/25/21 8:42:10 PM #72:	Joel95 posted... Cenk already acknowledged it so... publicly to avoid being called out for it, behind closed doors 100% that grifter hasn't changed a single thing he thinks about it --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:953226426] in Tulsi Gabb... [t:79424078]...</cite> <quote>Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Cenk already acknowledged it so...</quote>publicly to avoid being called out for it, behind closed doors 100% that grifter hasn't changed a single thing he thinks about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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