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ZannoL
04/22/21 7:18:34 PM
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Does it surprise you that those who are obsessed with looking like a "real man" are the most hesitant to wear mask and get vaccinated?


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-among-men-its-own-public-health-issue-n1263694

While studies earlier in the pandemic pointed to the way unhealthy behaviors like resistance to masks and hand-washing were more common in men in general, this data makes an important distinction: The problem isnt men; its the men committed to a certain performance of masculinity.

Men are more skeptical than women about COVID-19 vaccines and wearing face masks but the real divide is between men who are trying to project masculinity and the men who arent, Fairleigh Dickinson researchers wrote. Men who assert a traditionally masculine gender identity are less likely to say that theyll get the COVID-19 vaccine, more likely to say that it has side effects, more resistant to wearing face masks for protection, and more likely to say they have been diagnosed with COVID-19.

The survey also found that men who identify as completely masculine are nearly twice as likely to say wearing masks is dangerous to the health of the wearer and are predictably about three times more likely to report having been infected with the virus.

The men who identify as the most masculine were also more likely to have attended a gathering of more than 10 people or hosted visitors at their residence during the pandemic. Almost half (43 percent) of completely masculine men reported theyve had people over at their home recently; for other men, it was 36 percent (admittedly still not great but better). While we know Covid-19 is the major health threat here, it appears our defunct definition of masculinity is a dangerous precondition for Covid-19 that we should be talking about.
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Phront
04/22/21 7:20:20 PM
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ZannoL posted...
less likely to say that theyll get the COVID-19 vaccine, more likely to say that it has side effects, more resistant to wearing face masks for protection, and more likely to say they have been diagnosed with COVID-19.
A tragedy in four acts.
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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 7:20:58 PM
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I have said that I don't think I'll get covid from the start and still haven't gotten it

I've never even caught the flu

It's not because I think I'm macho, it's because I take care of my body, clean my house, and have faith in my immune system because I have sacrificed certain things that other people gourge on so that I can live a healthy lifestyle

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LightHawKnight
04/22/21 7:23:29 PM
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AThirstyCamel posted...
I have said that I don't think I'll get covid from the start and still haven't gotten it

I've never even caught the flu

It's not because I think I'm macho, it's because I take care of my body, clean my house, and have faith in my immune system because I have sacrificed certain things that other people gourge on so that I can live a healthy lifestyle

No matter how well you take care of your living area, there is very little protecting you from the actions of idiots.

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MrToothHasYou
04/22/21 7:24:27 PM
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Men are stupid and I dont respect them

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Smackems
04/22/21 7:25:04 PM
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Oh man

I really can't make myself care about this

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ZannoL
04/22/21 7:25:08 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Men are stupid and I dont respect them
Um, no.

There are stupid women and there are stupid men out there. There are also smart women and smart men out there.
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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 7:25:51 PM
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No matter how well you take care of your living area, there is very little protecting you from the actions of idiots.

Then why are so many people asymptomatic
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wiiking96
04/22/21 7:36:59 PM
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AThirstyCamel posted...
I have said that I don't think I'll get covid from the start and still haven't gotten it

I've never even caught the flu

It's not because I think I'm macho, it's because I take care of my body, clean my house, and have faith in my immune system because I have sacrificed certain things that other people gourge on so that I can live a healthy lifestyle
There's a very real chance that you can contract the virus and then spread it to other people, including those much more vulnerable to it. Do you not care that you are putting the people around you at risk?

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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 7:40:03 PM
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Do you not care that you are putting the people around you at risk?

How do you know that getting the vaccine is not putting yourself at risk?

Nobody knows the long term effects of it and people acting like its fine are doing so under the assumption that it's perfectly safe

I am uncomfortable with putting any medicine in my body, especially one that is this complex.

To say that anyone who doesnt want to have some unknown substance injected into them is selfish is completely disregarding their feelings.
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CyricZ
04/22/21 7:41:01 PM
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Is there a vaccine for toxic masculinity and is it pegging?

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wiiking96
04/22/21 7:44:26 PM
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AThirstyCamel posted...
I am uncomfortable with putting any medicine in my body, especially one that is this complex.
The fuck? Literally ANY medicine? Not even cough syrup or tylenol? Do you have any grasp of just how many lives have been saved by modern medicine? Did you never get any shots as a kid?

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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 7:48:49 PM
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The fuck? Literally ANY medicine? Not even cough syrup or tylenol? Do you have any grasp of just how many lives have been saved by modern medicine? Did you never get any shots as a kid?

I have all my vaccinations and many others than most dont have because I went overseas

But yes, I try to avoid medicine if at all possible because I watched my father's health decline rapidly until he eventually died at the age of 58 because corrupt doctors overprescribing him

The same people who everyone is so blindly trusting with this vaccine are the same ones responsible for the death of millions of americans each year because they want to greedily stuff their pockets.

I WILL take medicine, but I very rarely do and I dont like to, either.
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CyricZ
04/22/21 7:53:42 PM
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All your vaccinations plus others yet THIS one...

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furb
04/22/21 7:55:17 PM
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Seems about right

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Prestoff
04/22/21 7:57:10 PM
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Men in general are less likely to seek out help than women.

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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 7:57:28 PM
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CyricZ posted...
All your vaccinations plus others yet THIS one...


I am not denying that modern medicine is mostly a good thing and has drastically increased the lifespan of people.

But quit pretending like big pharma is all good and doesnt have a history of lying and extorting desperate people who dont know any better.

The same people who get overprescribed and eventually die from being overprescribed have the same faith in their doctors as you do in this vaccine.

The fact is, you have no idea if this vaccine will eventually kill you in 20 years. Quit pretending like you know because you dont
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furb
04/22/21 7:58:40 PM
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I watched my father die at 64 with covid. Didn't get to retire. He still loved working and was thinking of starting another business. He loved tending to my cancer stricken mom and playing with my 4 year old niece.

He died on Christmas. Days before he would have been vaccinated. Hell, I got mine two weeks after he died.

Get your darn vaccinations and save your and others' lives. Pride or masculinity be dammed.


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CyricZ
04/22/21 8:01:46 PM
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I'm not pretending I know. I'm just willing to take my chances.

Same as I do when I turn the ignition key in my car and expect it not to explode.

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hockeybub89
04/22/21 8:02:11 PM
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So the more macho you are, the more of a little bitch you are. Interesting.

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Turbam
04/22/21 8:02:27 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Men are stupid and I dont respect them
I'm not that stupid :V

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AThirstyCamel
04/22/21 8:02:47 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I'm not pretending I know. I'm just willing to take my chances.

Same as I do when I turn the ignition key in my car and expect it not to explode.


I know how an ignition switch works though. Lol
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ZannoL
04/22/21 11:05:05 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So the more macho you are, the more of a little bitch you are. Interesting.
Pretty much.
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VTBM
04/22/21 11:05:32 PM
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The Catgirl Fondler
04/22/21 11:10:01 PM
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The irony is that anti maskers/vaxxers are some of the biggest wussbags I have ever met. Literally the smallest dick energy.
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ZannoL
04/23/21 9:19:09 AM
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Bump.
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Dyinglegacy
04/23/21 9:29:42 AM
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I think people are just over it. The mask thing i mean. I wear one when I think about, but sometimes I forget and it doesn't even dawn on me that I don't have one on.

Toxic masculinity lol

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ZannoL
04/23/21 9:30:20 AM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
Toxic masculinity lol
You think its a myth?
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pinky0926
04/23/21 9:36:15 AM
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furb posted...
Seems about right


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Dyinglegacy
04/23/21 9:39:27 AM
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ZannoL posted...
You think its a myth?

I don't know about myth, but more like overhyped


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ZannoL
04/23/21 11:51:58 AM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
I don't know about myth, but more like overhyped
Really? Because we recently had a failed President who 100% embodied toxic masculinity. His followers all try to emulate that.

I don't think it's as small as you're trying to make it sound.
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The Trent
04/23/21 11:52:46 AM
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yeah it's probably even smaller than he's indicating

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ssjevot
04/23/21 11:52:57 AM
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Dying from a preventable disease to own the libs.

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BilalPowell
04/23/21 11:55:55 AM
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Should all men get a sex change?

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Kaliesto
04/23/21 12:13:40 PM
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AThirstyCamel posted...
I have all my vaccinations and many others than most dont have because I went overseas

But yes, I try to avoid medicine if at all possible because I watched my father's health decline rapidly until he eventually died at the age of 58 because corrupt doctors overprescribing him

The same people who everyone is so blindly trusting with this vaccine are the same ones responsible for the death of millions of americans each year because they want to greedily stuff their pockets.

I WILL take medicine, but I very rarely do and I dont like to, either.


There is going to be worldwide of pissed off people if the long term effects turned out not to be worth it, I wish people would think more because this is A EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE, and I also find it concerning the sudden white-washing of the medical industry acting like they always been angels.

We probably won't even get the real deal until a few years later that won't have these issues, but I'm really hoping the pill version coming out of Tel Aviv late this year will end up being a game changer because its supposed to have way less side-effects than the traditional vaccines.

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ROOTFayth
04/23/21 12:19:16 PM
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AThirstyCamel posted...
I have said that I don't think I'll get covid from the start and still haven't gotten it

I've never even caught the flu

It's not because I think I'm macho, it's because I take care of my body, clean my house, and have faith in my immune system because I have sacrificed certain things that other people gourge on so that I can live a healthy lifestyle
thats just wishful thinking though, your odds are better than some fat dude who doesnt exercise but your absolute risk of covid is still probably worse than the vaccine

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CyricZ
04/23/21 12:20:12 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
because this is A EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE
All vaccines are "experimental" when they're widely released.

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Got 'em.

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Master Kazuya
04/23/21 12:26:20 PM
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I've actually seen this first hand. The other day, I was gonna hang with some people, a girl and a guy, and the guy said he was gonna have his second shot and was hesitant about hanging out. The girl said that she got her second vaccine and was fine and that he's a pussy if he doesn't wanna hang. He changed his mind and decided to hang.

He did seem fine, but it was just weird that he'd consider himself subpar if he felt a side effect from the vaccine cause she put it in his head. If it was me, I'd just be like, ok I'm a pussy I'll see yall when I'm ready to hang.

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meralonne
04/23/21 12:30:03 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
and I also find it concerning the sudden white-washing of the medical industry acting like they always been angels.

Nobody in their right mind thinks this. The only assumption we can make is that it is in the best interests of pharmaceutical companies to get this right so that they can continue milking the fuck out of us with every other drug they sell.

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MrToothHasYou
04/23/21 12:30:31 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
There is going to be worldwide of pissed off people if the long term effects turned out not to be worth it, I wish people would think more because this is A EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE
Two people I know havent gotten their sense of taste/smell back since they got Covid, Im more than happy to take my chances with the vaccine, thank you very much.

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Kaliesto
04/23/21 3:00:30 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Two people I know havent gotten their sense of taste/smell back since they got Covid, Im more than happy to take my chances with the vaccine, thank you very much.

and I'm saying pushing a experimental vaccine and not knowing the long term consequences is just as equally irresponsible, the fact they tried to make sure they wouldn't get sued should send a red flag to anyone with common sense. I'm not going to criticize you for taking it but just be aware of bodily issues few years from now that shouldn't be possible at your age.

I'm already following the issue surrounding Blood Clots that doesn't have emotions and politics or dumbass conspiracies involved

one person said this -
Being a vaccinator myself I have first hand experience that vaccinators are not locating the correct injection site in the deltoid muscle

https://youtu.be/6nQbVIsvsJU?t=1859
https://youtu.be/6nQbVIsvsJU?t=1398

who he is -
Hello Everyone, My name is John Campbell and I am a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse based in England. I also do some teaching in Asia and Africa when time permits. These videos are to help students to learn the background to all forms of health care. My PhD focused on the development of open learning resources for nurses nationally and internationally.

For further reading on who he is because some people are going to jump to conclusions, he is very well respected -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnscottlewinski/2020/02/07/uk-doctor-uses-youtube-to-treat-panic-of-coronavirus-myths/


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thrashmetal14
04/23/21 3:03:46 PM
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>people don't want to take a new, unapproved drug

Must be toxic masculinity!
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hockeybub89
04/23/21 3:05:34 PM
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thrashmetal14 posted...
>people don't want to take a new, unapproved drug

Must be toxic masculinity!
Imagine if no one took new medications for the first 15 years on market because we "need to know the long term effects". Grow a pair and stop being an anti-vaxxer

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hockeybub89
04/23/21 3:08:33 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
I'm already following the issue surrounding Blood Clots that doesn't have emotions and politics or dumbass conspiracies involved
You mean the blood clots that are at far lower rate than COVID itself and haven't even been yet proven to actually be caused by the vaccine? Did you know pretty much every medication on the market has hurt or killed someone who took it? Ban medicine!

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Kaliesto
04/23/21 3:12:17 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
You mean the blood clots that are at far lower rate than COVID itself and haven't even been yet proven to actually be caused by the vaccine? Did you know pretty much every medication on the market has hurt or killed someone who took it? Ban medicine!

You completely ignored the old guy, and you jumped in making a snarky comment.

You're just like every other typical GameFAQs account, insult insult and insult some more to shut people up, I offered him a study on it and its leaning toward improper use of the needle rather than the vaccine.

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thrashmetal14
04/23/21 3:12:33 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Imagine if no one took new medications for the first 15 years on market because we "need to know the long term effects". Grow a pair and stop being an anti-vaxxer

Why have an FDA at all if people should just "grow a pair" and take any unapproved drug that big pharma puts out? It has nothing to do with being an anti-vaxxer.
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SSJPurple
04/23/21 3:17:20 PM
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I think the term youre looking for is toxic stupidity
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AtelierRyza3462
04/23/21 3:17:49 PM
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What about the women they don't want vaccine?

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