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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:05:13 PM #1: |
I dont like Rittenhouse either, but that feels little a pretty clear first amendment violation.
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Tyranthraxus 04/21/21 5:05:54 PM #2: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
I dont like Rittenhouse either, but that feels little a pretty clear first amendment violation. How did congress infringe on his free speech? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:08:13 PM #3: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
How did congress infringe on his free speech?Free speech extends to every government agency. That includes police departments. They fired him for showing political support to a controversial figure. Unless there is some rule against donating to defense funds, which I doubt, its pretty clear they fired him because of who he supports. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 04/21/21 5:08:41 PM #4: |
A cop in my area got fired for marrying a Muslim woman.
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:09:30 PM #5: |
ExtremeLuchador posted...
A cop in my area got fired for marrying a Muslim woman.Link? That'd be a juicy ass lawsuit if it's in the US.... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:11:32 PM #7: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Good. Fuck him.Nah. You can't fire someone for that unless it proves clear bias, which this case does not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlameTurtle 04/21/21 5:11:53 PM #8: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Good. Fuck him. --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 04/21/21 5:12:49 PM #9: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
Free speech extends to every government agency. That includes police departments. They fired him for showing political support to a controversial figure. Unless there is some rule against donating to defense funds, which I doubt, its pretty clear they fired him because of who he supports.Assuming this isn't a tiny small town department, they most likely have lawyers, and know whether or not they have grounds to fire him. --- How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 04/21/21 5:13:24 PM #10: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Assuming this isn't a tiny small town department, they most likely have lawyers, and know whether or not they have grounds to fire him. are you suggesting that people with lawyers don't break the law? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 04/21/21 5:13:38 PM #11: |
Boo fucking hoo
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Lonestar2000 04/21/21 5:14:10 PM #13: |
TC has no idea what he is talking about.
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Tyranthraxus 04/21/21 5:17:22 PM #14: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
Free speech extends to every government agency. That includes police departments. They fired him for showing political support to a controversial figure. Unless there is some rule against donating to defense funds, which I doubt, its pretty clear they fired him because of who he supports. Okay but how is firing him infringing on his rights? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:17:32 PM #15: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Assuming this isn't a tiny small town department, they most likely have lawyers, and know whether or not they have grounds to fire him.You say that but these.kind of lawsuits happen all the time. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It doesn't. Mind you, I have no doubt he is biased and racist, but this doesn't legally prove it, especially when the trial hasn't happened. I'd say the same thing if he donated to Chauvin, and you know I don't support that shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 04/21/21 5:17:40 PM #16: |
Fam_Fam posted...
are you suggesting that people with lawyers don't break the law?I'm suggesting that, given the power of Police Unions, that most departments won't fire an officer without knowing whether or not they can legally do so. --- How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:19:17 PM #18: |
Lonestar2000 posted...
TC has no idea what he is talking about.But I do. Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but how is firing him infringing on his rights?He has a right to free speech. That extends to actions and showing support. Because this was clearly done because of who he supported rather than a policy banning supporting defense funds or anything similar, this is a clear violation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SothaSil 04/21/21 5:19:42 PM #19: |
Octillery and shilling for police, name a more iconic duo
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:20:20 PM #20: |
SothaSil posted...
Octillery and shilling for police, name a more iconic duoHow is this shilling, again? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:32:14 PM #22: |
So its not, got it
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:35:10 PM #24: |
metallica846 posted...
Or he was fired for something else and blamed his donation.The department said they fired him over the donations. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 04/21/21 5:35:54 PM #25: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
Nah. You can't fire someone for that unless it proves clear bias, which this case does not. How does a donation to a specific defendant not show clear bias in their favor? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 04/21/21 5:36:55 PM #26: |
SothaSil posted...
Octillery and shilling for police, name a more iconic duoIts more just his desire to be the contrarian/smartest man in the room Octillery you seem like a decent person so please understand this: nobody needs to hear takes like this. There are plenty of alt-right chuds out there defending the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world and the systems in place that protect them all your contrarian well ackshually takes you post about shit like this contributes nothing good to the world --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 04/21/21 5:38:03 PM #27: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
The department said they fired him over the donations. Where was this? Which dept? Link/story/verifiable facts? --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Karate_II 04/21/21 5:38:12 PM #28: |
Not a violation of free speech
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:42:26 PM #29: |
philsov posted...
Where was this? Which dept? Link/story/verifiable facts?https://cbsn.ws/2RKI7tw TheGoldenEel posted... Its more just his desire to be the contrarian/smartest man in the roomIt's not being contrarian. I don't like seeing people get condemned unjustly. I'm pretty consistent about taking up stances and holding to my values even when I dislike the person, which is so much the case for Rittenhouse. And in this case, I'm not even defending Rittenhouse. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:42:36 PM #30: |
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Not a violation of free speechHow is it not? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 04/21/21 5:43:33 PM #31: |
mustachedmystic posted...
I'm suggesting that, given the power of Police Unions, that most departments won't fire an officer without knowing whether or not they can legally do so. are you suggesting that organizations would not knowingly do things that are illegal and/or choose to do something without regard to if it is illegal? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 04/21/21 5:45:19 PM #32: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
https://cbsn.ws/2RKI7twHow about use that effort to defend people who arent pieces of shit tho this topic adds nothing of value to the world, its fundamentally just trolling --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlameTurtle 04/21/21 5:46:23 PM #33: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
Its more just his desire to be the contrarian/smartest man in the roomYeah, it's not a very good quality. --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:46:53 PM #34: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
How about use that effort to defend people who arent pieces of shit thoI do all the time What you're suggesting is looking away because I don't like the guy, and that doesn't feel right to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 04/21/21 5:47:55 PM #35: |
SothaSil posted...
Octillery and shilling for police, name a more iconic duoPoor take, he's in another topic bitching a cop was wrong to stop a stabbing in progress. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 04/21/21 5:48:57 PM #36: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
https://www.norfolk.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=5443 His egregious comments erode the trust between the Norfolk Police Department and those they are sworn to serve. Reports were made that he donated and expressed support for the actions of Kyle Rittenhouse. Donation aside, barging around the police station going YEEHAW, KYLE IS A GODDAMN MAN AND IT'S OUR DUTY TO DEFEND PEOPLE LIKE HIM is absolutely a fire-able offense. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 04/21/21 5:49:07 PM #37: |
TheOtherMike posted...
How does a donation to a specific defendant not show clear bias in their favor? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/21/21 5:50:20 PM #38: |
Next up why donating to a pedophile's defense fund means you can't be fired from the police force because something something mah freee speeeech
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:52:49 PM #39: |
TheOtherMike posted...
How does a donation to a specific defendant not show clear bias in their favor?Sorry, i missed this. It shows bias towards Rittenhouse, it does show any bias that would make him unable to do his job. For anything to violate constitutional rights you have to make a clear showing of how it was interfering with his ability to do his job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iron-Tarkus 04/21/21 5:54:23 PM #40: |
Very weird for the article to not include the donation message which is much more damning than the fact there was a donation
from the New York posts article on this The donation reportedly came with a comment: God bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. Youve done nothing wrong. Every rank and file police officer supports you, the message continued. Dont be discouraged by actions of the political class of law enforcement leadership. Which makes the firing a lot more understandable imo --- So I stabbed him and took his humanity https://imgur.com/46SfWQ5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:54:35 PM #41: |
Davos posted...
Next up why donating to a pedophile's defense fund means you can't be fired from the police force because something something mah freee speeeechIt would be. It's one thing saying you support their actions, or that you think they're guilty but want them to get off, but far as I can tell he didn't cross that line. Though idk what comments he actually made, so that could completely change my stance. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 04/21/21 5:55:09 PM #42: |
Fam_Fam posted...
are you suggesting that organizations would not knowingly do things that are illegal and/or choose to do something without regard to if it is illegal?I'm saying what I said, which is while it is of course possible that they don't have standing to fire the man, I think it's unlikely. I could be wrong/ --- How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:55:20 PM #43: |
Iron-Tarkus posted...
Very weird for the article to not include the donation message which is much more damning than the fact there was a donationCase in point, the comments change the context a lot lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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What_ 04/21/21 5:56:33 PM #44: |
Meh
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Tmaster148 04/21/21 5:56:39 PM #45: |
Iron-Tarkus posted...
Very weird for the article to not include the donation message which is much more damning than the fact there was a donation I'm looking at AP and it also states he used his work email for the donation. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:57:17 PM #46: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm looking at AP and it also states he used his work email for the donation.I did see that elsewhere, but I haven't seen anything about that violating policy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 04/21/21 5:57:48 PM #47: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
I do all the timeYou could make hundreds of topics a day about the injustices in the world without ever getting to piece of shit cop should be able to give money to piece of shit terrorist without getting fired be better --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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What_ 04/21/21 5:58:38 PM #48: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
I did see that elsewhere, but I haven't seen anything about that violating policy.Anytime you use your work email for non-work purposes its violating policy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlameTurtle 04/21/21 5:59:03 PM #49: |
If only you had done the bare minimum of research before making this topic
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 5:59:05 PM #50: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
You could make hundreds of topics a day about the injustices in the world without ever getting to piece of shit cop should be able to give money to piece of shit terrorist without getting firedHes not a terrorist though. That said, this is a moot point with more context on this, firing is looking fair now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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