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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:40:38 AM #1: |
Because that cop shot the teenage girl four times. I hate that kind of outlook, while I don't agree with using lethal force there, if you do decide to go for lethal force, there's nothing wrong with multiple shots, you shoot until the target is incapacitated. Bugs me when people focus on the wrong elements for reasons I can't understand :/
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BuckVanHammer 04/21/21 10:42:24 AM #2: |
I kinda feel that if you rip off 4 rounds, you're trying to kill
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:45:10 AM #3: |
BuckVanHammer posted...
I kinda feel that if you rip off 4 rounds, you're trying to killTrying to stop. Not specifically to kill. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:47:45 AM #5: |
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yeah this is where the problem liesYeah I know, I literally said that in the OP ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:54:14 AM #7: |
dolomedes posted...
you don't understand why people would stress that a police officer specifically fired multiple shots at a teenage girl?There's no good reason to stress that part. Using his gun, using lethal, stress that, but using several shots when you go for lethal force is standard, and should be ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:56:00 AM #9: |
dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with.Nobody is arguing it should've been ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 04/21/21 10:56:48 AM #10: |
dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with. In regards to this specific case, she was shot in the process of trying to stab someone else. --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 04/21/21 10:57:09 AM #11: |
dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with. He realizes that. It's not defending the action, just that the part people are taking umbrage with is misguided. It's like "he killed that guy with a brick" >#1brick the brick part doesn't matter, it's that he decided to fucking kill a guy at all. It is perhaps overly granular a take. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 04/21/21 10:57:24 AM #12: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
Trying to stop. Not specifically to kill.As an ex fed who's agency supervised cops on joint task forces, "stopping power" is a euphemism for killing. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 10:58:38 AM #14: |
brestugo posted...
As an ex fed who's agency supervised cops on joint task forces, "stopping power" is a euphemism for killing.It is generally, but it's an important distinction regardless. Killing isn't the purpose, stopping the threat is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 11:00:08 AM #16: |
dolomedes posted...
killing someone with a brick is brutal. it's worth noting the brutality. shooting someone four times is brutal.Shooting someone four times is standard use of a gun. He didn't use the gun improperly, but he did use it quicker than the situation justified. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 04/21/21 11:00:45 AM #17: |
dolomedes posted...
emblem boy posted... I mean, the alternative being that the cops should let her stab the other person or something? I might be missing some additional information about what happened though, and I didn't really want to watch the video --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 11:01:38 AM #19: |
dolomedes posted...
how is that standard?How is it not? Do you want them to just take a single shot and then pause to see if that stopped them? If you're going to shoot, you shoot until the target is no longer a threat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 04/21/21 11:08:20 AM #20: |
This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being said
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 11:10:48 AM #21: |
DyingPancake posted...
This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being saidLike, are people genuinely that stupid or are they just being stubborn? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 04/21/21 11:10:56 AM #22: |
This girl was seconds away from straight up murdering another girl in front of a cop.
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BakonBitz 04/21/21 11:12:26 AM #23: |
DyingPancake posted...
This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being saidYeah, I get what he's saying. The thing is people are focusing on the wrong thing. Not the fact that he shot multiple times, but the fact he shot at all is what should be focused on. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 04/21/21 11:14:22 AM #24: |
It's a pity we couldn't have a single day of piece after George Floyd's murderer was sentenced, but I hope they get this officer too.
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 11:16:19 AM #25: |
FortuneCookie posted...
It's a pity we couldn't have a single day of piece after George Floyd's murderer was sentenced, but I hope they get this officer too.tbf, I don't know if I want charges for this officer or not given the understandably tense situation, but he made the wrong choice and should absolutely be off the force. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 04/21/21 11:19:37 AM #26: |
Okay, no, I'm backing away from this.
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SergeantGander 04/21/21 11:19:54 AM #27: |
Tbh all major cities should just follow in the footsteps that Minneapolis took and defend the police!
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emblem boy 04/21/21 11:24:51 AM #28: |
Am I missing something? I decided to just watch the video and like, the girl is actually about to stab someone when the cop shoots. There are a lot of horrible shootings out there... This isn't at the level of those
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EndOfDiscOne 04/21/21 11:25:11 AM #29: |
Should have fired a single shot to her leg
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AngelsNAirwav3s 04/21/21 11:25:58 AM #30: |
emblem boy posted...
Am I missing something? I decided to just watch the video and like, the girl is actually about to stab someone when the cop shoots. There are a lot of horrible shootings out there... This isn't at the level of those He could have just shot the knife out of her hand --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 04/21/21 11:26:28 AM #31: |
No you shoot the knife out of the hand.
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Romulox28 04/21/21 11:27:36 AM #32: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
He could have just shot the knife out of her handor shot the kneecap & went in for the suplex --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical rhino 04/21/21 11:28:22 AM #33: |
RadiantJoyrock posted...
tbf, I don't know if I want charges for this officer or not given the understandably tense situation, but he made the wrong choice and should absolutely be off the force.What an awful, ignorant take. The cop acted correctly and should be praised for saving a life. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeadPipeCinche 04/21/21 11:33:36 AM #34: |
__aCEr__ posted...
No you shoot the knife out of the hand. Yup , you aim for the small part of the body thats hard to hit.. oh no wait, thats a dumbass idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantJoyrock 04/21/21 11:52:14 AM #35: |
radical rhino posted...
What an awful, ignorant take. The cop acted correctly and should be praised for saving a life.Nope. EndOfDiscOne posted... Should have fired a single shot to her legThere's very good reason that this isn't done. Same for arms. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lww99 04/21/21 11:56:19 AM #36: |
You dont shoot someone in the leg when theyre about to stab someone...
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AngelsNAirwav3s 04/21/21 11:58:01 AM #37: |
Who is that guy on the right in the gray hoody just kicking the shit out of some girl on the ground?
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shnangyboos 04/21/21 11:58:10 AM #38: |
Because there still needs to be outrage, it can't be that the initial reaction was wrong. Can't go back now.
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TheRealDill2000 04/21/21 12:30:43 PM #40: |
Romulox28 posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...He could have just shot the knife out of her handor shot the kneecap & went in for the suplex That's also lethal though. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice. Reformed user. Not changing this signature until the Buffalo Bills win the 2021 Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 04/21/21 12:32:45 PM #41: |
Convenient how nobody is mentioning that the girl had the knife for self defense.
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