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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:40:38 AM
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Because that cop shot the teenage girl four times. I hate that kind of outlook, while I don't agree with using lethal force there, if you do decide to go for lethal force, there's nothing wrong with multiple shots, you shoot until the target is incapacitated. Bugs me when people focus on the wrong elements for reasons I can't understand :/
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BuckVanHammer
04/21/21 10:42:24 AM
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I kinda feel that if you rip off 4 rounds, you're trying to kill

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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:45:10 AM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
I kinda feel that if you rip off 4 rounds, you're trying to kill
Trying to stop. Not specifically to kill.
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:47:45 AM
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dolomedes posted...
yeah this is where the problem lies
Yeah I know, I literally said that in the OP
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:54:14 AM
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dolomedes posted...
you don't understand why people would stress that a police officer specifically fired multiple shots at a teenage girl?
There's no good reason to stress that part. Using his gun, using lethal, stress that, but using several shots when you go for lethal force is standard, and should be
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:56:00 AM
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dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with.

this is a weird take.
Nobody is arguing it should've been
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emblem boy
04/21/21 10:56:48 AM
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dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with.

this is a weird take.


In regards to this specific case, she was shot in the process of trying to stab someone else.
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Guide
04/21/21 10:57:09 AM
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dolomedes posted...
using lethal force shouldn't be an option to begin with.

this is a weird take.

He realizes that. It's not defending the action, just that the part people are taking umbrage with is misguided.

It's like "he killed that guy with a brick"
>#1brick
the brick part doesn't matter, it's that he decided to fucking kill a guy at all.

It is perhaps overly granular a take.

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brestugo
04/21/21 10:57:24 AM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Trying to stop. Not specifically to kill.
As an ex fed who's agency supervised cops on joint task forces, "stopping power" is a euphemism for killing.


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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 10:58:38 AM
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brestugo posted...
As an ex fed who's agency supervised cops on joint task forces, "stopping power" is a euphemism for killing.
It is generally, but it's an important distinction regardless. Killing isn't the purpose, stopping the threat is.
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 11:00:08 AM
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dolomedes posted...
killing someone with a brick is brutal. it's worth noting the brutality. shooting someone four times is brutal.
Shooting someone four times is standard use of a gun. He didn't use the gun improperly, but he did use it quicker than the situation justified.
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emblem boy
04/21/21 11:00:45 AM
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dolomedes posted...
emblem boy posted...
In regards to this specific case, she was shot in the process of trying to stab someone else.
the person she was defending herself from, the reason the police are there?


I mean, the alternative being that the cops should let her stab the other person or something?
I might be missing some additional information about what happened though, and I didn't really want to watch the video
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 11:01:38 AM
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dolomedes posted...
how is that standard?

whatever, this topic is getting to me. cya
How is it not? Do you want them to just take a single shot and then pause to see if that stopped them? If you're going to shoot, you shoot until the target is no longer a threat.
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DyingPancake
04/21/21 11:08:20 AM
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This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being said

This is why its useless to try to argue these topics on here

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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 11:10:48 AM
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DyingPancake posted...
This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being said

This is why its useless to try to argue these topics on here
Like, are people genuinely that stupid or are they just being stubborn?
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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/21 11:10:56 AM
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This girl was seconds away from straight up murdering another girl in front of a cop.

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BakonBitz
04/21/21 11:12:26 AM
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DyingPancake posted...
This topic makes perfect sense and TC is not justifying what happened in any way, yet people are still missing the point of whats actually being said

This is why its useless to try to argue these topics on here
Yeah, I get what he's saying.

The thing is people are focusing on the wrong thing. Not the fact that he shot multiple times, but the fact he shot at all is what should be focused on.

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FortuneCookie
04/21/21 11:14:22 AM
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It's a pity we couldn't have a single day of piece after George Floyd's murderer was sentenced, but I hope they get this officer too.
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 11:16:19 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
It's a pity we couldn't have a single day of piece after George Floyd's murderer was sentenced, but I hope they get this officer too.
tbf, I don't know if I want charges for this officer or not given the understandably tense situation, but he made the wrong choice and should absolutely be off the force.
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Guide
04/21/21 11:19:37 AM
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Okay, no, I'm backing away from this.

Tense situations don't justify killing innocent people

m'out

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SergeantGander
04/21/21 11:19:54 AM
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Tbh all major cities should just follow in the footsteps that Minneapolis took and defend the police!

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emblem boy
04/21/21 11:24:51 AM
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Am I missing something? I decided to just watch the video and like, the girl is actually about to stab someone when the cop shoots. There are a lot of horrible shootings out there... This isn't at the level of those
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EndOfDiscOne
04/21/21 11:25:11 AM
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Should have fired a single shot to her leg

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/21 11:25:58 AM
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emblem boy posted...
Am I missing something? I decided to just watch the video and like, the girl is actually about to stab someone when the cop shoots. There are a lot of horrible shootings out there... This isn't at the level of those

He could have just shot the knife out of her hand

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__aCEr__
04/21/21 11:26:28 AM
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No you shoot the knife out of the hand.

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Romulox28
04/21/21 11:27:36 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
He could have just shot the knife out of her hand
or shot the kneecap & went in for the suplex

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radical rhino
04/21/21 11:28:22 AM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
tbf, I don't know if I want charges for this officer or not given the understandably tense situation, but he made the wrong choice and should absolutely be off the force.
What an awful, ignorant take. The cop acted correctly and should be praised for saving a life.

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LeadPipeCinche
04/21/21 11:33:36 AM
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__aCEr__ posted...
No you shoot the knife out of the hand.


Yup , you aim for the small part of the body thats hard to hit.. oh no wait, thats a dumbass idea.
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RadiantJoyrock
04/21/21 11:52:14 AM
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radical rhino posted...
What an awful, ignorant take. The cop acted correctly and should be praised for saving a life.
Nope.

EndOfDiscOne posted...
Should have fired a single shot to her leg
There's very good reason that this isn't done. Same for arms.
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lww99
04/21/21 11:56:19 AM
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You dont shoot someone in the leg when theyre about to stab someone...

Cops hands were tied here.

super shitty situation, but she wasnt defending herself at this point in time.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/21 11:58:01 AM
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Who is that guy on the right in the gray hoody just kicking the shit out of some girl on the ground?

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shnangyboos
04/21/21 11:58:10 AM
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Because there still needs to be outrage, it can't be that the initial reaction was wrong. Can't go back now.

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TheRealDill2000
04/21/21 12:30:43 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
He could have just shot the knife out of her hand
or shot the kneecap & went in for the suplex

That's also lethal though.
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_Rinku_
04/21/21 12:32:45 PM
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Convenient how nobody is mentioning that the girl had the knife for self defense.
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