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When you press select to bring up the map I think you press X or whatever it says for icon selection, then you look through I think the gathering tab pages until you see mining outcrops.

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MJOLNRVII posted...

When you press select to bring up the map I think you press X or whatever it says for icon selection, then you look through I think the gathering tab pages until you see mining outcrops.

I did that but when I go back to the main play screen it doesn't show on the minimap anymore.

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Did you definitely click A on the icon list selection, and are you using the detailed map rather than general? You want detailed to be on your HUD not general.

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How do you make the detailed map the main display map?

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Go to options, and I think it's under gameplay or controls? I switch it to detailed for gathering/expeditions(seeing gathering points on the map helped A TON finding all the relics for me).

Edit: Just checked, it's Options>Game Settings>HUD Map Type

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Yup, that is how I mapped out my account items farming route in the volcano.

Super helpful until you get stuff memorized.

I do wish you could do it for the full map, its a little a strange you cant... as when you have a quest for something specific it will appear on the full map in your HUD.

It would be awesome if we could tweak exactly what displays on it, maybe they felt that would be too easy?

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MJOLNRVII posted...

Go to options, and I think it's under gameplay or controls? I switch it to detailed for gathering/expeditions(seeing gathering points on the map helped A TON finding all the relics for me).

Edit: Just checked, it's Options>Game Settings>HUD Map Type

Gotcha

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Anyone huntin?

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Naw still tryna get rich

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I'll probably be up for playing later tonight like around 8-10PM CST, or I'll just post here again with lobby info and whatnot. Also I need to stop forgetting to send out my guild card to some of you.

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Going to play now, also:


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I made an LBG set yesterday and boy although DPS is HIGH it is soooo boring. At least in a group, because you're almost never targeted and it's easy to dodge. Solo it's probably more fun.

I can't do the math, but it seems my rapid pierce Narga bow was doing a bunch of 5s and I'm not sure how many pop up on the screen... Like 10? 50 damage per second is ridiculously high DPS. And that's without the wyvern blast or whatever that sticky thing is called.

Long sword and Chargeblade and hammer are more fun, but I'll keep playing around with LBG. Especially for pain in the ass monsters like rathalos and Narwa

GirTheRobot posted...

I made an LBG set yesterday and boy although DPS is HIGH it is soooo boring. At least in a group, because you're almost never targeted and it's easy to dodge. Solo it's probably more fun.

I can't do the math, but it seems my rapid pierce Narga bow was doing a bunch of 5s and I'm not sure how many pop up on the screen... Like 10? 50 damage per second is ridiculously high DPS. And that's without the wyvern blast or whatever that sticky thing is called.

Long sword and Chargeblade and hammer are more fun, but I'll keep playing around with LBG. Especially for pain in the ass monsters like rathalos and Narwa

I like shotgunning a monsters face from close range with the gossgun.

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My gunlance does 70 per hit, and its bam, bam, reload bam bam, continuously.

Probably not quite as high dps, but I am also damn hard to kill.

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pikachupwnage posted...

I like shotgunning a monsters face from close range with the gossgun.

Yeah spread builds are more fun. Maybe I'll do that. Do you have a good set for spread shots?

gunlances dps is like middle of the road, definitely toward the bottom. I think LS, LBG, SA, GS, and sometimes HBG are the top dogs in practice?

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I also have LS and LBG sets as well.

I did village with LS, switched to gunlance because it was easier to do HR solo.

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Akagami_Shanks posted...

gunlances dps is like middle of the road, definitely toward the bottom. I think LS, LBG, SA, GS, and sometimes HBG are the top dogs in practice?

LS is amazing but you have to be very, very good with it to keep up high deeps. Like, you need to be countering most monster attacks and constantly getting off helm breakers. I still don't use the foresight slash properly because it's hard to time. I do frequently counter monster roars and go straight to a helm breaker... Now that's just fun.

It is far, far easier to keep up high DPS with LBG. Especially pierce. Can't comment much on SA or GS, although I usually play GS every game just haven't done so in this one yet.

I feel like lbg's dps is slower and weaker to bow.

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Veggeta X posted...

I feel like lbg's dps is slower and weaker to bow.

I've heard bow is very good but haven't tried it myself

Bow is consistently putting up the top speed run times right now for almost every monster but in the average persons hands it's gonna be slower than the "meta" LBG builds since Bow relies so heavily on perfectly managing your stamina to actually use it to its full potential, whereas with LBG it's just point at the longest part of the monster and fire. Having said that Bow is still very strong even when not playing it perfectly.

Gunlance is, as always, near the bottom. There are even those reports that Japanese players are kicking gunlance mains from farming lobbies because its slowing down their hunts. The weapon is super fun though.

It's still early and nothing is set in stone yet, but so far Bow seems to be clearly the strongest weapon. Though it's going to be nerfed soon which might bring it in line with the second tier. Which seems to be LBG, HBG, GS, and LS. Then maybe Hammer and SA? GL seems to be the consensus #14, with the other weapons duking it out in the 8-13 range. CB and IG seem to have a leg up in the bottom half, though CB in particular seems fairly matchup-dependent. This is in terms of speedruns and pure damage output, of course -- a weapon like GS has huge damage potential but is probably more difficult to get the most out of than, say, LBG, especially in MP with more unpredictable monsters.

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Bows are brainless so long as you use constitution

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So earlier I said I was getting like 50 per bullet? I was way off.

Just fought mizutsune, goss, almura and tetranodon. I was consistently popping off probably 5 or 6 10s, and 5 or 6 7s and 8s. I think my damage with each shot is upwards of 100. Seeing as LBG constantly puts out damage ad doesn't stop (especially in a group when you're rarely targeted) that is ridiculously high DPS.

I did a quest with randoms where you fight Goss and Tetranodon and we beat it in 12 minutes lol.

You can check on a training dummy I think

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Akagami_Shanks posted...

You can check on a training dummy I think

that is true, but it's not practical for a real quest. like, i won't be able to get constant helmbreakers and spirit blade combos on a quest

You can see how much a full pierce shot does though

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me and a friend got to magnamalo for the first time and got him down to weakened, and then he did his crazy spin thing and launched like 300 feet across open terrain and tapped me with his butt for the third cart

rip

Akagami_Shanks posted...

You can see how much a full pierce shot does though

true i'll try that later

I'm up for playing if anyone else is. Just post becase I'm doing something else rn.

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Ill be on in a few minutes, just have to finish some stuff up.

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TM7A8F

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If anyone wants to play.

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Oh I had already made a lobby and thought you saw it. Are we not Switch friends? That would probably help.

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any preferences?

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Nah, we could just do turns again starting with you.

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cool, start easy

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That bird was more annoying than I had expected.

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That Rathalos hunt went faster than expected.

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Really?

I've found rathalos easy as hell in rise.

At least compared to GU

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Yeah but I don't play HH in this game, and I'm using a fashion set because I can't stand looking at my clown suit anymore <_<

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sigh

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I keep getting false hope when I pick up and read Golden Sludge thinking it's the Golden Orb or whatever.

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Yeah, that one was big.. but apparently I've fought bigger, huh

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One more from me. I need to eat.

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Alright, good hunts


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Not sure if you all know this, but some TVs have motion blur smoothing. It goes be different names on different TVs but it can improve the frame rate smoothness of this game

its called Motion Picture Pro 4 on my TV and when its on, this game looks like its running higher than 30 FPS.

give it a try if your TV Has something similar

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GL is the lowest DPS? I've seen it get really good times on Magna and some 6* quests that I don't see lists for. Not to mention in multi, it does good damage because you can use the blast dash to always stick to the monster.

Speedruns have never been a good indicator for multiplayer performance. Honestly if they were serious about farming, a majority of the fight would be trap centric or toppling via monster riding, in which case you would never build like players tend to in speedruns. The best speedrun for Goss Harag doesn't even run an offensive set. It runs a defensive set that capitalizes on Offensive Guard to make up for the lack of AUs and such, and it still manages to pull a comparative time to other weapons, which says a lot about the dps it can pull during multi where guards and positioning frankly don't matter at all.

Also the average time for GL is so low because it has a horrible time vs Rakna. That's because GL basically has no good water GL with enough white sharpness to matter, even with handicraft, and GL's shells and wyrmstake by default does fire damage, which Rakna eats up completely. Not to mention GL eats up sharpness pretty quickly unless you land every ZL A guard point. After G or its equivalent is released, we will fully know then, but in a vacuum when a fight is played "optimally", GL is middle or higher in terms of potential DPS, given the monster just about gets 2-3 hits on you in full and is toppled for every other time.

And heck, if those Japanese players are farming atm, if they're gonna be elitist, why don't they just kick everybody who isn't using a bow lmao.

Sorry to go on the rant, but I've used about 6 different weapon types already pretty extensively, and I think there are much worse dps than GL in a lot of situations. Lance is definitely one of them, SNS is another. DB also probably has the lowest or below avg dps for any monster that isn't Elder Dragon length. LS also wrecks in single player, but in multi, you'll probably land less than half of the counters you do in a single player, which makes RTAs a bad standard to judge how good their DPS is.

Bow is broken though. I don't think anybody should even question that because it's just a fact that can be proven

Basically just decide for yourself after some research of your own. People who only care about RTAs are very different players than 99% of MH players who are there to beat content.

Meanwhile, I've been experimenting with a green sharpness Diablos GL, and if the hunt is gonna go on longer, it's more powerful than the Rakna GL with Handicraft, unless you have some god charm that gives a bit more crit related stuff. But compared to Handicraft sets, it's much easier to max out on Diablos GL style.

My Diablos GL set is AU 7 CE 3 Artillery 3 Load Up 2 Bludgeoner 3 and Mind's Eye 1. Depending on the charm you get, it's even possible to improve on it by having a charm with Bludgeoner and Mind's Eye with a slot 2, since ME1 is kinda unreliable.

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Lance and SnS are way better than GL in this game. They actually get to scale up with raw while SnS gets to ignore sharpness while it reaps the benefits. I'll agree with you that speedruns mean little because 99% of the playerbase don't get anywhere close to the skill ceiling with any weapon, but there's only so much you can do to improve GL damage. I really wish Capcom would finally let shelling scale with raw, because just like the GU demo the GL felt fantastic and then it fell off a cliff once the game released.

JPN elitists kick GL players because it can't contribute as much to a Monster with a 90 HZV like the other 13 weapons. I hated how good Slaplance was in Iceborne because I liked Wide and Burstfire spam, but damn was Wide Sweep too strong with Fatalis' GL(390 raw).

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Hypothetically if people did make a big enough stink about GL damage, would they even do anything about it? We might potentially get something in G-rank, but is Capcom known for buffing/nerfing weapons in between new games and the G-rank expansions?

MorganTJ posted...

Hypothetically if people did make a big enough stink about GL damage, would they even do anything about it? We might potentially get something in G-rank, but is Capcom known for buffing/nerfing weapons in between new games and the G-rank expansions?

Yes, they buffed hammer slightly on the first World update.

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