Current Events > can someone explain why places/countries are starting to require vaccination?

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fuming
04/10/21 4:32:28 PM
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It just makes literally no sense. If you don't take the vaccine the only person you are potentially hurting is yourself. You can still get covid if you are vaccinated. You can still spread covid if you are vaccinated. I'd understand if, like, your health insurance company wanted to punish you for not taking the vaccine, but why do businesses/governments care AT ALL if you took the vaccine, let alone going so far as to require it?
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fuming
04/10/21 4:51:55 PM
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plz
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Ilishe
04/10/21 4:52:33 PM
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Vaccine good okay? Go get your shot.

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Bananana
04/10/21 4:53:59 PM
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fuming posted...
If you don't take the vaccine the only person you are potentially hurting is yourself
im grateful you exposed this as a toke jopic right from the beginning

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Doom_Art
04/10/21 4:54:04 PM
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It's not in their interest to have people spreading it around and getting sick from it still.

You wanna go into a specific business or country? Get your fucking shot lol

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fuming
04/10/21 4:55:45 PM
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Ilishe posted...
Vaccine good okay? Go get your shot.

this has nothing to do with me bro, and whether the vaccine is good is irrelevant to the question. (also I literally have only been back in the country for like two days!! kind of have other things to do like setting up everything for my home!)
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Wetterdew
04/10/21 4:56:42 PM
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I don't believe for a second that somebody who's vaccinated is as likely to spread coronavirus as somebody who contracts it who is unvaccinated

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MedeaLysistrata
04/10/21 4:56:52 PM
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hospitals are pretty crowded TC

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Doom_Art
04/10/21 4:57:54 PM
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fuming posted...
and whether the vaccine is good is irrelevant to the question
How is it irrelevant

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fuming
04/10/21 4:58:09 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
It's not in their interest to have people spreading it around and getting sick from it still.

You wanna go into a specific business or country? Get your fucking shot lol

but you still can spread it with the vaccine? yeah, it reduces your chance of getting sick, but businesses have never required you to get a flu shot or checked your polio vaccine status before you come in. why is this different? I could understand your personal employer or insurance company caring, but why would a fucking store or the government?
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/21 4:58:27 PM
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Safety theater.
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Ilishe
04/10/21 4:58:29 PM
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Okay

It's important to get your shot to minimize your chances of contracting Covid. If you do get it anyway the vaccine will prevent you from dying of the disease.

More people get inoculated, less Covid around. Pandemic ends.

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Doom_Art
04/10/21 4:59:44 PM
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fuming posted...
but you still can spread it with the vaccine?
that's why as many people as possible need to get it lol

why you trollin

fuming posted...
but why would a fucking store or the government?

Doom_Art posted...
It's not in their interest to have people spreading it around and getting sick from it still.


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fuming
04/10/21 4:59:49 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
hospitals are pretty crowded TC

so you think private businesses and universities are doing this because the hospitals are crowded? huh?
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cadcrafter
04/10/21 4:59:57 PM
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In terms of countries, letting only vaccinated people in means you only need herd immunity for your citizens vs anybody who might visit

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fuming
04/10/21 5:01:33 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
They havent fully proven that it prevents spreading is not the same as it does not reduce the spread.

have they proven it reduces the spread even a little bit?
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MabusIncarnate
04/10/21 5:01:38 PM
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Don't get your vaccine then, spread it to others because you are being an infant, then this can be around for years to come and stricter regulations will fall into place because of people like you and anti-maskers. All the people who want shit to open up again are the ones keeping the numbers high by acting dumb.

So no, you aren't just hurting yourself, if you get it and are asymptomatic, and you spread it to 40-50 people, you are responsible when them or their families get it, potentially killing more people. You hurt a hell of a lot more people than yourself. Do the right thing.

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Wetterdew
04/10/21 5:01:53 PM
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fuming posted...
so you think private businesses and universities are doing this because the hospitals are crowded? huh?
That is one of the many reasons, yes

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/10/21 5:02:33 PM
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Cause fuck you so what they'd say. You'll need vaccination records to just get in your car to drive for the next 50 years

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Questionmarktarius
04/10/21 5:03:03 PM
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fuming posted...
have they proven it reduces the spread even a little bit?
It's a vaccine. That's the entire point.
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fuming
04/10/21 5:03:06 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Don't get your vaccine then, spread it to others because you are being an infant, then this can be around for years to come and stricter regulations will fall into place because of people like you and anti-maskers. All the people who want shit to open up again are the ones keeping the numbers high by acting dumb.

So no, you aren't just hurting yourself, if you get it and are asymptomatic, and you spread it to 40-50 people, you are responsible when them or their families get it, potentially killing more people. You hurt a hell of a lot more people than yourself. Do the right thing.

being an infant is accusing someone of like 500 things they aren't including being responsible for deaths of others, what a fucking asshole you are.
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Ilishe
04/10/21 5:04:28 PM
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Imma just ask this straight out now

You an antivaxxer TC?

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Sonic Cannon
04/10/21 5:04:51 PM
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The whole "It isn't proven to prevent spreading the disease to others" thing isn't true any more. Israel's real-world data after their population rollout has provided some evidence to confirm it.

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Doom_Art
04/10/21 5:05:21 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Cause fuck you so what they'd say. You'll need vaccination records to just get in your car to drive for the next 50 years
You joke but this would be great lol

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fuming
04/10/21 5:05:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Oh so you havent done any research whatsoever?

why is every smug asshole on this board like this? if you have actual information, do not reply to me with a question instead of an explanation.
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fuming
04/10/21 5:08:02 PM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
The whole "It isn't proven to prevent spreading the disease to others" thing isn't true any more. Israel's real-world data after their population rollout has provided some evidence to confirm it.

can I get a link? not insinuating you are wrong, I just want to read it, its good news if true.
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MabusIncarnate
04/10/21 5:08:09 PM
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Everyone has already answered your question, but your mindset remains at "As long as it doesn't hurt me, fuck other people and their families as long as I am fine."

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fuming
04/10/21 5:08:54 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Everyone has already answered your question, but your mindset remains at "As long as it doesn't hurt me, fuck other people and their families as long as I am fine."

never once did I have that mindset, you are projecting a whole lot of shit
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Doom_Art
04/10/21 5:09:44 PM
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fuming posted...
never once did I have that mindset,
Yes you did

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fuming
04/10/21 5:10:42 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Man who hasnt done any research but wants the pandemic to continue for longer and kill more people than it has to: everyone else is an asshole

why do you think I want the pandemic to continue for longer and kill more people than it has to? I never said that. and you have not shown that you have done any research yourself, you have done nothing but insult me and lie about me.
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hockeybub89
04/10/21 5:11:36 PM
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Wetterdew
04/10/21 5:12:46 PM
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fuming posted...
why is every smug asshole on this board like this? if you have actual information, do not reply to me with a question instead of an explanation.
The virus has blossomed because of people who treat it with insouciance and who refuse to take protective measures for themselves and other people.

There's no respect to be had for anti vaxers.

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King_Hutton
04/10/21 5:16:36 PM
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fuming posted...
why do you think I want the pandemic to continue for longer and kill more people than it has to?
Because youre calling people assholes for explaining how getting vaccinated works, youre acting like an anti-vaxxers who has been confronted with facts

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Sonic Cannon
04/10/21 5:17:37 PM
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This article gives a brief overview:
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-int-idUSKBN2AJ08J

The short summary is that the vaccine has now proven to also reduce cases without any symptoms by a large degree, which will cut down on the transmissibility of the virus considerably.

From a population level you can see the impact has been a reduction in daily new cases of over 90% since the beginning of February (see daily cases graphs here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ ), which is far greater than the proportion of the population vaccinated (around 56% - https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/ ). This demonstrates that there is some "herd immunity" effect at play, which wouldn't be the case if it didn't reduce transmission.

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ssj3vegeta_
04/10/21 5:17:51 PM
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Businesses better start enforcing it, unless dey want another lockdown
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emblem boy
04/10/21 5:18:57 PM
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What places are starting to require vaccination?
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fuming
04/10/21 5:19:22 PM
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I don't agree, the virus blossomed because the government did absolutely nothing to stop the spread. If they were willing to pay people to stay home, we could have been in the clear very early on.

obviously people should take protective measures, but placing the blame solely on people like anti maskers is ridiculous when the government is a much bigger reason why imo.

King_Hutton posted...
Because youre calling people assholes for explaining how getting vaccinated works

I'm calling people assholes for being an asshole to me. I didn't call anyone an asshole for explaining anything about the vaccines.

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fuming
04/10/21 5:20:41 PM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
This article gives a brief overview:
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-int-idUSKBN2AJ08J

The short summary is that the vaccine has now proven to also reduce cases without any symptoms by a large degree, which will cut down on the transmissibility of the virus considerably.

From a population level you can see the impact has been a reduction in daily new cases of over 90% since the beginning of February (see daily cases graphs here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ ), which is far greater than the proportion of the population vaccinated (around 56% - https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/ ). This demonstrates that there is some "herd immunity" effect at play, which wouldn't be the case if it didn't reduce transmission.

thank you!
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