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RadiantJoyrock 04/01/21 1:22:17 PM #1:	It'll help save the planet and cost far less money in the long run. Literally the only people against it are people in fossil fuels and other industries that make money off pollution. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952355401] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>It'll help save the planet and cost far less money in the long run. Literally the only people against it are people in fossil fuels and other industries that make money off pollution. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/01/21 1:29:54 PM #2:	There are plenty of arguments against it. Saving money in the long run is a dangerously selfish point to bring up to the families in rural WV who cant feed their families after the mine shuts down and those energy jobs move hundreds of miles away and every single business in town withers away. I support zero emissions wholeheartedly, but you are NEVER going to get your point across when youre handwaving starving children "because its cheaper in the long run". --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:952355677] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>There are plenty of arguments against it. Saving money in the long run is a dangerously selfish point to bring up to the families in rural WV who cant feed their families after the mine shuts down and those energy jobs move hundreds of miles away and every single business in town withers away. I support zero emissions wholeheartedly, but you are NEVER going to get your point across when youre handwaving starving children "because its cheaper in the long run". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/01/21 1:31:02 PM #3:	Gas powered vehicles are faster and dont require hours of charging beforehand. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:952355711] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Gas powered vehicles are faster and dont require hours of charging beforehand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/01/21 1:32:59 PM #4:	Duncanwii posted... Gas powered vehicles are faster Nope Duncanwii posted... dont require hours of charging beforehand. Non issue compared to the benefits. Jerry_Hellyeah posted... There are plenty of arguments against it. Saving money in the long run is a dangerously selfish point to bring up to the families in rural WV who cant feed their families after the mine shuts down and those energy jobs move hundreds of miles away and every single business in town withers away. I support zero emissions wholeheartedly, but you are NEVER going to get your point across when youre handwaving starving children "because its cheaper in the long run". If they can't feed their families because the mine shut down then the state needs to step in. Still not an argument to keep it running. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952355775] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Gas powered vehicles are faster</quote>Nope Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>dont require hours of charging beforehand.</quote>Non issue compared to the benefits. Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>There are plenty of arguments against it. Saving money in the long run is a dangerously selfish point to bring up to the families in rural WV who cant feed their families after the mine shuts down and those energy jobs move hundreds of miles away and every single business in town withers away. I support zero emissions wholeheartedly, but you are NEVER going to get your point across when youre handwaving starving children "because its cheaper in the long run".</quote>If they can't feed their families because the mine shut down then the state needs to step in. Still not an argument to keep it running. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orlando_Jordan 04/01/21 1:33:06 PM #5:	Duncanwii posted... Gas powered vehicles are faster and dont require hours of charging beforehand. A Tesla will smoke most gas cars. --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site."-CJayC <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:952355778] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Gas powered vehicles are faster and dont require hours of charging beforehand.</quote>A Tesla will smoke most gas cars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/01/21 2:00:53 PM #6:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Nope Non issue compared to the benefits. If they can't feed their families because the mine shut down then the state needs to step in. Still not an argument to keep it running. Yeah, you simply do not give a shit about these people, so youre definitely not the guy to be listened to about these issues. You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture. There are so many things that need to be done before we actually move towards zero emissions and renewable energy. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:952356627] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Nope Non issue compared to the benefits. If they can't feed their families because the mine shut down then the state needs to step in. Still not an argument to keep it running.</quote> Yeah, you simply do not give a shit about these people, so youre definitely not the guy to be listened to about these issues. You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture. There are so many things that need to be done before we actually move towards zero emissions and renewable energy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 04/01/21 2:07:02 PM #7:	humans are absolute shit at looking at far future effects for our current choices, we're really good at seeing the immediate effects. its why the argument that we're going to make the planet much harder for our future children to survive on means shit all to most people and isn't a compelling political motivator, it inconveniences us now... the way to sell the argument to invest towards zero emissions is to point out current positives. job growth, safer technology, reduced health effect from emissions, things like that. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:952356823] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>humans are absolute shit at looking at far future effects for our current choices, we're really good at seeing the immediate effects. its why the argument that we're going to make the planet much harder for our future children to survive on means shit all to most people and isn't a compelling political motivator, it inconveniences us now... the way to sell the argument to invest towards zero emissions is to point out current positives. job growth, safer technology, reduced health effect from emissions, things like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/01/21 2:45:19 PM #8:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Yeah, you simply do not give a shit about these people, so youre definitely not the guy to be listened to about these issues. You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture. There are so many things that need to be done before we actually move towards zero emissions and renewable energy. No, I'm acknowledging their problems by correcting you, its the fault of the government not doing its job, not the fault of harmful emissions being reduced. Besides, we can address that while we move to ,ero emissions, its not like it's going to be an instant swap, it will take at least 30 years. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952358124] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, you simply do not give a shit about these people, so youre definitely not the guy to be listened to about these issues. You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture. There are so many things that need to be done before we actually move towards zero emissions and renewable energy.</quote>No, I'm acknowledging their problems by correcting you, its the fault of the government not doing its job, not the fault of harmful emissions being reduced. Besides, we can address that while we move to ,ero emissions, its not like it's going to be an instant swap, it will take at least 30 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/02/21 1:16:10 PM #9:	RadiantJoyrock posted... No, I'm acknowledging their problems by correcting you, its the fault of the government not doing its job, not the fault of harmful emissions being reduced. Besides, we can address that while we move to ,ero emissions, its not like it's going to be an instant swap, it will take at least 30 years. Im saying right now, as we're having this discussion, that YES, THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO NOT WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS ZERO EMISSIONS. Youre acting like the argument against it is that polluting is fun or something. You have to have support in place before you can even start talking about ripping out the foundations these communities are built upon. This hasnt happened time and time again, so obviously theres gonna be pushback when the fix is supposedly "Government will help you out.....yknow....eventually". I honestly do not care who you want to blame. This issue goes beyond "pollution is bad". --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:952390209] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>No, I'm acknowledging their problems by correcting you, its the fault of the government not doing its job, not the fault of harmful emissions being reduced. Besides, we can address that while we move to ,ero emissions, its not like it's going to be an instant swap, it will take at least 30 years.</quote> Im saying right now, as we're having this discussion, that YES, THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO NOT WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS ZERO EMISSIONS. Youre acting like the argument against it is that polluting is fun or something. You have to have support in place before you can even start talking about ripping out the foundations these communities are built upon. This hasnt happened time and time again, so obviously theres gonna be pushback when the fix is supposedly "Government will help you out.....yknow....eventually". I honestly do not care who you want to blame. This issue goes beyond "pollution is bad". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 1:58:50 PM #10:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... YES, THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO NOT WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS ZERO EMISSIONS. No good ones. Even if it would cripple a community with no possible fix, which isn't the case, it would still be worth doing for the overall health of the planet. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952391608] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>YES, THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO NOT WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS ZERO EMISSIONS.</quote>No good ones. Even if it would cripple a community with no possible fix, which isn't the case, it would still be worth doing for the overall health of the planet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 04/02/21 2:04:53 PM #11:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... You have to have support in place before you can even start talking about ripping out the foundations these communities are built upon. I don't think you're gonna find too many people who advocate for extreme investment toward zero emissions who don't also support some form of social safety net for people who would be negatively affected by those measures. Even if that weren't the case, really don't think some thousands of people should get priority over millions (billions?). That's not a good argument --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:952391835] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote> You have to have support in place before you can even start talking about ripping out the foundations these communities are built upon.</quote> I don't think you're gonna find too many people who advocate for extreme investment toward zero emissions who don't also support some form of social safety net for people who would be negatively affected by those measures. Even if that weren't the case, really don't think some thousands of people should get priority over millions (billions?). That's not a good argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 2:07:03 PM #12:	IMNOTRAGED posted... I don't think you're gonna find too many people who advocate for extreme investment toward zero emissions who don't also support some form of social safety net for people who would be negatively affected by those measures. Even if that weren't the case, really don't think some thousands of people should get priority over millions (billions?). That's not a good argument Hell, I advocate a lot for people in southern Oregon who are hit by the reduction of Oregon logging. We should be doing more to help them for certain, but his argument is basically that Oregon shouldn't be able to kill logging until that help is given. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952391913] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think you're gonna find too many people who advocate for extreme investment toward zero emissions who don't also support some form of social safety net for people who would be negatively affected by those measures. Even if that weren't the case, really don't think some thousands of people should get priority over millions (billions?). That's not a good argument</quote>Hell, I advocate a lot for people in southern Oregon who are hit by the reduction of Oregon logging. We should be doing more to help them for certain, but his argument is basically that Oregon shouldn't be able to kill logging until that help is given. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 04/02/21 2:08:52 PM #13:	TC sounds like your mind is made up. Let my post be the last one and lets close this thing yea? --- Why do nerdsalways get caught up on the details? https://imgur.com/dntQM https://imgur.com/9gNcUGM https://imgur.com/bH8vq3f <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:952391989] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>TC sounds like your mind is made up. Let my post be the last one and lets close this thing yea? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/02/21 2:10:58 PM #14:	RadiantJoyrock posted... No good ones. Even if it would cripple a community with no possible fix, which isn't the case, it would still be worth doing for the overall health of the planet. Please dont run for office. Reallly now. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:952392061] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted...</cite> <quote> No good ones. Even if it would cripple a community with no possible fix, which isn't the case, it would still be worth doing for the overall health of the planet. </quote> Please dont run for office. Reallly now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 2:42:15 PM #15:	Duncanwii posted... Please dont run for office. Reallly now. I'd be a better option than you would, tbqh <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952393208] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Please dont run for office. Reallly now.</quote>I'd be a better option than you would, tbqh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/02/21 2:43:38 PM #16:	RadiantJoyrock posted... I'd be a better option than you would, tbqh I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:952393246] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted...</cite> <quote> I'd be a better option than you would, tbqh </quote> I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 2:44:20 PM #17:	Duncanwii posted... I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project. I wouldn't consider ensuring the health and future of our planet a pet project. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952393267] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project.</quote>I wouldn't consider ensuring the health and future of our planet a pet project. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 04/02/21 2:46:01 PM #18:	I base my investment strategy around late game civilization 6 resource tiles --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:952393323] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>I base my investment strategy around late game civilization 6 resource tiles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/02/21 2:46:48 PM #19:	RadiantJoyrock posted... I wouldn't consider ensuring the health and future of our planet a pet project. You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:952393357] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted...</cite> <quote> I wouldn't consider ensuring the health and future of our planet a pet project. </quote> You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 04/02/21 2:47:56 PM #20:	Duncanwii posted... You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying. You also considered your hunger for Subway and desire to go to the mall more important than human lives, so --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:952393404] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote> You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying.</quote> You also considered your hunger for Subway and desire to go to the mall more important than human lives, so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 04/02/21 2:48:17 PM #21:	Duncanwii posted... You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying. I refuse to believe anyone could be this dumb. Stop shitposting, dude --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:952393415] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying.</quote> I refuse to believe anyone could be this dumb. Stop shitposting, dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/02/21 2:48:51 PM #22:	Yes there is, it triggers the libs lmao --- Nothing in the above message constitutes a licence to kill in any state of the United States of America or elsewhere in the universe. <cite>Trumble posted [p:952393432] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Yes there is, it triggers the libs lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 2:49:28 PM #23:	Duncanwii posted... You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying. I consider the whole of the earth's population more important than a few small communities. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952393455] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>You consider the earth more important then the people living on it. That's what your statement in post 10 is saying.</quote>I consider the whole of the earth's population more important than a few small communities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/02/21 2:54:52 PM #24:	RadiantJoyrock posted... I consider the whole of the earth's population more important than a few small communities. I want you to go to those small communities, look them each in the eye and tell them how you feel their lives are expendable if it means that you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you did good. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:952393649] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted...</cite> <quote> I consider the whole of the earth's population more important than a few small communities. </quote> I want you to go to those small communities, look them each in the eye and tell them how you feel their lives are expendable if it means that you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you did good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/02/21 3:01:50 PM #25:	Duncanwii posted... I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project. again, RadiantJoyrock posted... which isn't the case, --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:952393868] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't consider the destruction of a community an acceptable loss for a pet project.</quote>again, RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>which isn't the case,</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jaded_Dragon 04/02/21 3:04:49 PM #26:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture You're saying we shouldn't move to zero emissions, which would benefit all of humanity and the planet itself, because some coal miners might have to find a new job, yet you chastise someone by saying they don't see the real big picture? I don't even know what to say. --- The next human enlightenment is the abolishment of money. <cite>Jaded_Dragon posted [p:952393952] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>You should know by now, in 2021, that these communities are not recieving the support they need, and that is a very serious isue that is being handwaved by people like you who think theyre seeing the real big picture</quote> You're saying we shouldn't move to zero emissions, which would benefit all of humanity and the planet itself, because some coal miners might have to find a new job, yet you chastise someone by saying they don't see the real big picture? I don't even know what to say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonGrackle 04/02/21 3:16:47 PM #27:	of course, when you start a conversation with the idea that your view is so lofty that no one would dare criticize it... <cite>CommonGrackle posted [p:952394354] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>of course, when you start a conversation with the idea that your view is so lofty that no one would dare criticize it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 04/02/21 4:52:04 PM #28:	Duncanwii posted... I want you to go to those small communities, look them each in the eye and tell them how you feel their lives are expendable if it means that you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you did good. I've been to those small communities, I support giving them more funding, and I wouldn't support leaving them to die since there's a lot we can do to help them other than keeping polluting factories active. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:952397376] in There is n... [t:79381600]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I want you to go to those small communities, look them each in the eye and tell them how you feel their lives are expendable if it means that you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you did good.</quote>I've been to those small communities, I support giving them more funding, and I wouldn't support leaving them to die since there's a lot we can do to help them other than keeping polluting factories active. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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