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Slayerblade11
03/28/21 4:13:38 PM
#51:


toadfan64 posted...
Man, what a shithole of a topic. I swear some of the folks in here are exactly what his character is satirizing, lmao.

The quality has obviously gone down a bit over the years, with some folks leaving(I do think it sucks that Mike left), James having less of a hand in the writing of AVGN episodes and such, but it's still usually fairly solid with the occasional gems (Earthbound was fantastic). And anytime he's just talking about movies it's always interesting and entertaining.

I've noticed over the years the Cinemassacre has one of the worst fanbases for such a cool and chill dude behind the camera.

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Demon1050
03/28/21 4:24:10 PM
#52:


his classic stuff is hilarious.

haven't kept up lately but if the quality has gone downhill it's understandable. It's impossible to use that type of humor and keep it fresh endlessly. If a new episode is at least watchable that's an accomplishment.

Never did like mike though he seemed like a really fake guy and a pretty big dick.
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Damn_Underscore
03/28/21 4:30:06 PM
#53:


Demon1050 posted...
and a pretty big dick.

lol

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AtelierRyza3462
03/28/21 4:33:12 PM
#54:


He isn't as active bit he still good.

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Hayame Zero
03/28/21 4:33:34 PM
#55:


Demon1050 posted...
Never did like mike though he seemed like a really fake guy and a pretty big dick.
He is the most pessimistic streamer I have ever watched, and that's saying a lot. I'm honestly more fine with the current set-up and production of AVGN episodes if it means I never have to see Mike again.

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LightningAce11
03/28/21 4:35:02 PM
#56:


Didn't he make a movie?
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Joeydollaz
03/28/21 4:35:19 PM
#57:


That dude should of signed with IGN

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Damn_Underscore
03/28/21 4:36:18 PM
#58:


Joeydollaz posted...
That dude should of signed with IGN

What deal did IGN give?

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YellowSUV
03/28/21 4:40:03 PM
#59:


LightningAce11 posted...
Didn't he make a movie?

Yes. It is questionable if it even made a profit though since he decided it needed to be filmed around Hollywood even though it would of been WAY cheaper to film locally.

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__aCEr__
03/28/21 5:12:56 PM
#60:


My feeling about Mike is that he seems alright in a group but he's not someone I'd want to hang out with one-on-one for any extended period of time.

And concerning his move into full-time streaming: I don't mind watching James get angry at old games because that's only a character. When you see a 40 year old man legitimately getting angry and screaming at 30 year old video games it's a bit more pathetic and not something I want to watch.

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Darmik
03/28/21 5:17:02 PM
#61:


Damn_Underscore posted...
the last one about the Shrek GBC game was especially terrible. Half of that video isn't even related to the game.

His videos started to have those dumb skits really early on. Part of the reason I moved on rather quickly.

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UnfairRepresent
03/28/21 5:21:53 PM
#62:


LightningAce11 posted...
Didn't he make a movie?
He did

I didn't see it but respect him for going through with it since the production was a nightmare

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Bass_X0
03/28/21 5:23:43 PM
#63:


Arin Hanson is better at Mario Maker than James.

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One_Day_Remains
03/28/21 5:44:57 PM
#64:


Mike Matei literally wrote racist comics.
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Bass_X0
03/28/21 5:51:51 PM
#65:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Mike Matei literally wrote racist comics.

America literally elected a racist president.

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One_Day_Remains
03/28/21 5:53:10 PM
#66:


Bass_X0 posted...


America literally elected a racist president.


Yes. I don't see the point of this deflection unless you're legitimately bothered that someone would point out that Mike is racist.
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AwesomeFawful
03/28/21 6:12:03 PM
#67:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Mike Matei literally wrote racist comics.
Wow, just reading through this topic originally made me glad I didn't care for Mike, but holy shit fuck him.

Wonder if this has anything to do with his departure from the channel?

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One_Day_Remains
03/28/21 6:13:59 PM
#68:


AwesomeFawful posted...

Wow, just reading through this topic originally made me glad I didn't care for Mike, but holy shit fuck him.

Wonder if this has anything to do with his departure from the channel?


Heavily doubtful. Those comics are kinda old if I remember correctly
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Sheiky-Baby
03/28/21 6:14:16 PM
#69:


So he basically became Jim Davis/Todd McFarlane? I stopped watching the guy about a decade ago.

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electricbugs2
03/28/21 6:22:09 PM
#70:


What an absolutely garbage topic. Truly fucking pathetic. Some of you need to stay off Cinemassacre Truth and believing every damn thing you read online.

In other words, shut the fuck up.

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YellowSUV
03/28/21 6:24:21 PM
#71:


electricbugs2 posted...
What an absolutely garbage topic. Truly fucking pathetic. Some of you need to stay off Cinemassacre Truth and believing every damn thing you read online.

In other words, shut the fuck up.

What is "Cinemassacre Truth"?

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Spidey5
03/28/21 6:24:50 PM
#72:


LightningAce11 posted...
Didn't he make a movie?

Yeah. I thought it was pretty funny.
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Damn_Underscore
03/28/21 6:28:12 PM
#73:


I think that subreddit is horrible but AVGN has still gone really downhill.

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PiOverlord
03/28/21 6:28:16 PM
#74:


Cinemassacre Truth is full of the most sad people I have ever seen.

It's a hate reddit full of people who's lives are entirely revolved around the fact they hate current day AVGN.

They talk about how AVGN is lazy, and then they make the same jokes every single thread for months, or even years now, and resort to lazy insults about the staff calling them slobs due to their weight, constantly, and trying to turn every little thing into the biggest drama theater ever.

It's fine to hate AVGN, but damn, if you don't like it, why are you so obsessed with it? It's just a YT channel man, move on!

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YellowSUV
03/28/21 6:30:24 PM
#75:


Spidey5 posted...
Yeah. I thought it was pretty funny.

I thought it was a lot of hit and miss. At least it is light years better than those Channel Awesome "movies".

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ledbowman
03/28/21 6:33:03 PM
#76:


why does he say words so weird. instead of mountain he says mouden??

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Prestoff
03/28/21 6:48:53 PM
#77:


Slayerblade11 posted...
I wouldn't say it was a fluke. Keep in mind he got big on Youtube in 2006. James early AVGN episodes are a clear cut above of 99% of videos in terms of production quality, editing, scripting...etc. His background in film gave him a clear advantage early on. But yeah he's run the character to the ground. There is only so much you can do with 1 joke repeated ad nauseum.

Yeah you're right, fluke was a bad word to explain his explosion in popularity. His videos were definitely higher quality than anything you could find at the time, and to add to AVGN's legacy it literally became the #1 inspiration for many other video game content creator to make videos. I didn't want to add to the dogpiling on James, I was just kind of giving context to probably why his newer videos aren't "up to par" to his older videos.

I remember a few years ago I was at a meet and greet with James and I made a comment about how he doesn't seem to be that angry when it came to his videos. He made a quick remark, "I guess I'll film it when I'm in a bad mood." Needless to say, I see no reason for him to be in a bad mood because he's already pretty damn successful.

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AceMos
03/28/21 6:49:20 PM
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i just want to talk on his tallents at film making

he is not very good to be honest and it stims from his obsession to matching the B movies from his child hood

B movies have changed over the years

hell regular youtubers can put out better effects than the stuff james wants to focus on

what he does cuold maybe work if there was a hint of irony to it but no he just does it and thats it not even really a joke that the effects look like they where done in the 60s

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nfearurspecimn
03/28/21 7:39:06 PM
#79:


One_Day_Remains posted...
I wonder how much of this topic is genuine truth and how much of it just buys into the propaganda Redditors have been spreading about him
you can't be serious if you haven't noticed his heart isn't really in it anymore

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YellowSUV
03/28/21 7:57:27 PM
#80:


nfearurspecimn posted...
you can't be serious if you haven't noticed his heart isn't really in it anymore

Yeah, you just have to look at the cinematography compared to old AVGN videos. Now it is mostly just shots of game play or the Nerd sitting on his couch. It used to be much more varied.

Also, it now sounds like the Nerd is just phoning in lines. In the past it was genuine rage (i.e. Castlevania 2 and other early reviews) or at least acting with some effort (i.e. Plumbers Don't Wear Ties. I'm 99% sure James never played the game before he reviewed it).

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CoorsLight
03/28/21 8:17:24 PM
#81:


Darmik posted...
His videos started to have those dumb skits really early on. Part of the reason I moved on rather quickly.

I never really enjoyed the skits but (sometimes) they had a homemade charm to them and you knew it was his friends getting involved. Now they're just random YouTube actors you've never heard of half the time and the skits somehow seem over-produced yet extremely bad quality at the same time
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CoorsLight
03/28/21 8:19:26 PM
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And yeah anti-fandoms are weird and full of obsessively toxic people but I feel like most people here are just saying it sucks and he seems disinterested? That's not some conspiracy you can get that just by watching it
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cymbaline
03/28/21 8:24:56 PM
#83:


James seems way more passionate in the videos he makes about movies.

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AceMos
03/28/21 8:45:11 PM
#84:


cymbaline posted...
James seems way more passionate in the videos he makes about movies.
he was but they dont bring in the views so he canceled the series

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PiOverlord
03/28/21 9:19:14 PM
#85:


CoorsLight posted...
And yeah anti-fandoms are weird and full of obsessively toxic people but I feel like most people here are just saying it sucks and he seems disinterested? That's not some conspiracy you can get that just by watching it
Nah, I didn't want my comment to come across like people can't dislike it, no. I just think anti-fandoms are like some of the most cringe groups out there tbh, lol.

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Solar_Crimson
03/28/21 11:27:22 PM
#86:


I still tune into his videos whenever he releases a new one, but yeah, it's absolutely clear that he's just phoning it in at this point, since it's his most successful product. Like others have said, he's gone through all of the games he played in his childhood, so he can no longer channel that genuine frustration he felt as a child with the new games he's reviewing now, though there are exceptions (Plumbers Don't Wear Ties and Hong Kong 97, for example).

He's a movie guy, but people don't seem to care as much about his movie stuff as they do AVGN, so he has to keep doing what makes the money, especially since he has a family to care for now.

Maybe one day he could return to filmmaking full time, since that's his true passion.

On a final note, the recent Shrek video of his was a very weak episode, I agree.

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Kisai
03/28/21 11:31:52 PM
#87:


Joeydollaz posted...
That dude should of signed with IGN
Should have.
YellowSUV posted...
Yes. It is questionable if it even made a profit though since he decided it needed to be filmed around Hollywood even though it would of been WAY cheaper to film locally.
Would have, you guys are killing me.

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Damn_Underscore
03/28/21 11:37:36 PM
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ACTUALLY that first one should be should have

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AceMos
03/28/21 11:43:10 PM
#90:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Maybe one day he could return to filmmaking full time, since that's his true passion.
unlikely as he has very little talent in the field

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Bass_X0
03/29/21 1:39:57 AM
#91:


ledbowman posted...
why does he say words so weird. instead of mountain he says mouden??

He has an accent?

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viewmaster_pi
03/29/21 1:51:24 AM
#92:


mouden, burry, REview, etc

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Background_Guy
03/29/21 2:01:05 AM
#93:


Y'all jealous
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blasster
03/29/21 2:16:10 AM
#94:


I legit like it up to the Castlevania series marathon (holy shit this is 2010 apparently, wow it really been that long). After that is mostly meh, yea. But really, you can only do so much after 100+ episodes, I guess.

Still, regardless of what I think of the show, I can understand if he puts his family first now (married and two kids), and just prefer to earn steady income from AVGN stuff. Plus his real life persona supposedly chill and have zero controversy whatsoever from what I know. I can respect that.

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ledbowman
03/29/21 8:07:55 AM
#95:


Bass_X0 posted...
He has an accent?
accent is why he says "ehss" instead of "ass" which i wouldn't even bother mentioning. i'm talking about word butchery. nobody else says "mountain" by taking out the n and replacing the t with a d

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RedJackson
03/29/21 8:11:55 AM
#96:


He never actually seemed mad in any of the videos I watched >_>

So I didnt get far into viewing his channel

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Alpha218
03/29/21 10:43:41 AM
#97:


electricbugs2 posted...
What an absolutely garbage topic. Truly fucking pathetic. Some of you need to stay off Cinemassacre Truth and believing every damn thing you read online.

In other words, shut the fuck up.
/r/CinemassacreTruth has ruined /r/AVGN because crossposts of it are basically spammed on the latter and the mod wont delete them. It sucks because /r/Cinemasscre was run by Mike and anything negative about him was removed from the sub,

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CommonGrackle
03/29/21 1:28:52 PM
#98:


RedJackson posted...
He never actually seemed mad in any of the videos I watched >_>

So I didnt get far into viewing his channel

compared to Joe Vargas, yeah.
I mean the whole thing was supposed to be an act anyway. That can't last forever. I say he should just focus on stuff he really likes, and if that means no more games, maybe no more YT, then whatever.

...and is it really true Mike was the one playing those games? didn't know that.
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Itachi157
03/29/21 1:35:43 PM
#99:


I haven't watched the newer AVGN stuff but I still go back and watch some of the Board James videos here and there.
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AceMos
03/29/21 11:16:18 PM
#100:


CommonGrackle posted...
compared to Joe Vargas, yeah.
I mean the whole thing was supposed to be an act anyway. That can't last forever. I say he should just focus on stuff he really likes, and if that means no more games, maybe no more YT, then whatever.

...and is it really true Mike was the one playing those games? didn't know that.
this is his job he has to do it to support his family

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