Current Events > An animal life is nowhere near the worth of a human

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That is all.

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Agreed

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March 2021 account energy

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disagree. human lives are just as worthless as animal lives

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Depends on if said person is a serial killer/rapist/child molester.

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Where is this from?

TerrifyingRei posted...

disagree. human lives are just as worthless as animal lives

Are you 14?

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MildEnergy posted...

https://imgur.com/PmX8smn

Where is this from?

Are you 14?

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TerrifyingRei posted...

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Kinda old to be that angsty

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meh

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Agreed.

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To equate animals and humans like many vegans do betrays a level of misanthropy.

The vegan arguments that animal farming is equivalent to slavery or the holocaust is false. Humans matter more.

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MildEnergy posted...

Humans matter more.

according to

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viewmaster_pi posted...

according to

Ok misanthrope

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just answer the question, according tooooo

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How many animals is one human worth?

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Looked gf posted...

How many animals is one human worth?

As much as one human needs to live a healthy, comfortable life.

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Ok, but Im still gonna save my dog over a rando from a burning building

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How very conceited, coming from a human!

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Trolley dilemma:
Track 1 has an unrepentat serial killer and child rapist.
Track 2 has a really adorable fox cub.
Choices, choices...

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Thompson posted...

Trolley dilemma:
Track 1 has an unrepentat serial killer and child rapist.
Track 2 has a really adorable fox cub.
Choices, choices...

If the best you can do is use extreme outlier scum to argue against my point then well

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Like I can do that too.

Rabid animal that bit many humans on track 1.
Newborns humans on track 2.

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MildEnergy posted...

Like I can do that too.

Rabid animal that bit many humans on track 1.
Newborns humans on track 2.

Is the rabid animal cute tho?

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I mean if its rabid best to put it down i think its suffering

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TerrifyingRei posted...

disagree. human lives are just as worthless as animal lives

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MildEnergy posted...

If the best you can do is use extreme outlier scum to argue against my point then well

I mean, you didn't phrase it like there were any exceptions to the rule. You acted like there were no outlier scum.

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No life is worth more than any other.

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I give this alt a week, two tops

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Humans are animals though

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DocDelicious posted...

No life is worth more than any other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucestoda

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Humans using other animals is just the order of things. We should still respect nature and not abuse animals though.

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I'd say I agree, but I'd also agree that a the scum of the earth are worth less than a piece of dogshit too. Lol.
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MildEnergy posted...

Where is this from?

Me!Me!Me! Look for it uncut

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Depends. If my cat were dying from something that wasnt age related and I was given a button and told that if I pressed it my cat would be saved but a stranger would die, I would be super tempted.

Things have the value we each individually assign to them.

i'd agree if people are our main source of meat

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I would save the fire

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Smackems posted...

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Hah.

Also, depends on the animal, depends on the human, etc.

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MildEnergy posted...

If the best you can do is use extreme outlier scum to argue against my point then well

1. The dog you grew up with as a child, everyone loved him but you were his favorite human, in his prime for the purpose of this question.

2. A well respected medical doctor and philanthropist in her 40s. In good health.

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Ilishe posted...

1. The dog you grew up with as a child, everyone loved him but you were his favorite human, in his prime for the purpose of this question.

2. A well respected medical doctor and philanthropist in her 40s. In good health.

Bruh obviously you save the doctor. I can understand someone having the emotional attachment to their dog that would make them save it over her but objectively that doctor is more valuable

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I have a stuffed gorilla toy I've had since I was a baby. I'm now 30. Given a choice between putting him in a furnace or pressing a button to kill a random stranger, I'm smashing that mfing button.

Kami_no_Kami posted...

Things have the value we each individually assign to them.

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My dog > TC

The topic at hand is more complex than how you present it. I totally get and respect why some people go vegetarian or vegan even though I am not one.

Just keep in mind that general statements such as "An animal life is nowhere near the worth of a human" must always have some exceptions. If ever presented the choice between an entire zoo full of people, or even an entire jungle full of animals, and a single human who's done reprehensible things, then the choice is obvious.

The statement is geared towards generalities. As in, the zoo is on fire, and there is only enough resources to save a single person trapped in a building, or an exhibit full of monkeys. Who does society save? The identity of the person is unknown, and the only information given is that there is a person inside that can be saved.

viewmaster_pi posted...

according to

paradoxically, its according to both no one, and the general way society is at large. No single authoritative person or organization has said straight out that the worth of humans is a lot more than the worth of animals. At least, not from my knowledge. However, the way we operate shows that we humans at least perceive it that way. Our laws protect humans to a far greater degree than animals. Saving a human life is perceived to be a much greater merit than saving an animals life.

Before anyone says "well, not me...", understand we are talking in generalities, and not exceptions.

MildEnergy posted...

The vegan arguments that animal farming is equivalent to slavery or the holocaust is false. Humans matter more.

Eh... something about this argument disturbs me. I haven't heard the argument that farming animals is equivalent to slavery. That's for another discussion. But lets pretend your argument is true. That humans, in fact, matter more than animals. Just because someone, something or some group matters more, doesn't give them the right to enslave others. So on the basis that we matter more, doesn't give us the right to make anyone our slaves.

Actually, because we matter more it gives us the responsibility to help animals. Indeed we are capable of doing so much more than them, and we have so much more power than they do. Our power and capabilities charge us to care for this planet and the living things in the planet far more than any other species.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

Things have the value we each individually assign to them.

Yes, but the quote isn't talking about a specific human or a specific animal. Its talking about humans in general and animals in general. It doesn't matter if that human being is a world renowned surgeon or a serial rapist. And it doesn't matter if its a random deer prancing around in the forest, or the family cat of 10 years.

Society doesn't operate on how you or I value things, because it can't. It operates on what humans collectively value in any given society. A firefighter doesn't get to choose to save a serial rapist or let him burn in a fire. His responsibility is to get him out of that fire. In that same way, we don't get to value humanity by any single person, but by it as a whole.

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I agree.

And people who say animals are "part of their family" are dumbfucks.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

I have a stuffed gorilla toy I've had since I was a baby. I'm now 30. Given a choice between putting him in a furnace or pressing a button to kill a random stranger, I'm smashing that mfing button.

Thats even worse than the premise of the topic, you would gladly sacrifice a person (perhaps a small child playing innocently with their parents) over a manky stuffed doll?

This kind of topic always brings out the edgelords.

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Depends which animal, for example a blue whale is probably worth countless human lives

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jon davis posted...

Thats even worse than the premise of the topic, you would gladly sacrifice a person (perhaps a small child playing innocently with their parents) over a manky stuffed doll?

This kind of topic always brings out the edgelords.

Look at his name. He's not an edgelord, just a filthy furry.

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Nah, animals have more value then the lives of rapists, serial killers, and child molesters.

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And here comes another dude posting outliers again

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A soul is a soul no matter the host in a vacuum we are all equal in that sense. As humans weve been blessed with the ability of greater reason and the ability to enjoy music art dancing etc, we should enjoy our lives taking pleasure in those things while treating other humans and animals kindly.

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