Current Events > Gamefaqs feature idea: Automatic ban if enough people block you

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:05:11 PM
#1:


Obviously it shouldn't be obvious to those problem accounts that they got banned. Do it how Reddit and Twitter do it. Shadowbans!

Ban the alt-right and tankies via banishing them to the shadow realm where their ideas won't spread anymore. Let the community decide. It can be based on # of marks and # of moderations and if their posts & usermap are known to match databases available from Twitter/Reddit on known nation-state troll farm shitposting. They started building these tools after stories like these came out:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-backed-facebook-accounts-organized-events-on-all-sides-of-polarizing-issues-1509355801

And they're nuking a lot of these accounts and tweets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/07/06/twitter-is-sweeping-out-fake-accounts-like-never-before-putting-user-growth-risk/

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/now-available-more-200-000-deleted-russian-troll-tweets-n844731

psssssssst @SBAllen can we get this? what would it take to make it happen? (psssssssst I can help)

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Supernatural
03/18/21 12:06:07 PM
#2:


yeah sure but can we first fix the alt problem?

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Irony
03/18/21 12:06:33 PM
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I'll just use alts to ban people I don't like

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Questionmarktarius
03/18/21 12:06:41 PM
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If enough people block you, aren't you thus effectively "shadowbanned" anyway?
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PatrickMahomes
03/18/21 12:06:55 PM
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people would just mass block with alts

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:07:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If enough people block you, aren't you thus effectively "shadowbanned" anyway?

Not if they make new accounts. At that point you'd need better detection than simply blocking old accounts.

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__poi_____
03/18/21 12:08:11 PM
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Yes, removing someone from everyone's block list when they just make a new account 5 seconds later is a more ideal solution.

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:08:30 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
people would just mass block with alts

Gate it on karma. > 1,000 karma.

Or whatever is a reasonable threshold for "this is a quality user who has been here a long time and is serious."

Reddit and Twitter have already figured out how, we don't need to really reinvent.

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:09:30 PM
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Obviously it would require a curating function. Not just based on the absolute # of blocks.

It has to be answering this question:

"Are enough quality long-term users saying this person is a problem in the community? Send them to the shadow realm until they behave."

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Tenlaar
03/18/21 12:09:34 PM
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I, for one, don't see how this could possibly cause any problems on a board with unlimited alts and a sizeable clique of vile, bigoted users who communicate off-site through Discord and/or reddit.
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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:10:17 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
I, for one, don't see how this could possibly cause any problems on a board with unlimited alts and a sizeable clique of vile, bigoted users who communicate off-site through Discord and/or reddit.

reddit and twitter have alts galore and they have made huge progress in solving this

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GrandConjuraton
03/18/21 12:10:45 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
I, for one, don't see how this could possibly cause any problems on a board with unlimited alts and a sizeable clique of vile, bigoted users who communicate off-site through Discord and/or reddit.


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__poi_____
03/18/21 12:11:35 PM
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Twitter has access to some of the best developers in the world. Gamefaqs has SBAllen.

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pikachupwnage
03/18/21 12:11:45 PM
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That sounds super abusable.

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:14:08 PM
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__poi_____ posted...
Twitter has access to some of the best developers in the world. Gamefaqs has SBAllen.

I'm sure Allen has capital to allocate to building this. Or whoever is actually in charge of building this place. (And if there was a link to apply to such a role, I would love to get it in my PMs)

pikachupwnage posted...
That sounds super abusable.

You use Twitter or Reddit? Do you enjoy yourself there?

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nothanks1
03/18/21 12:16:26 PM
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Fuck no
people like sparks or ollie would shit all over it using their 100s of alts
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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:16:49 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Fuck no
people like sparks or ollie would shit all over it using their 100s of alts


pure_temper posted...
Obviously it would require a curating function. Not just based on the absolute # of blocks.

It has to be answering this question:

"Are enough quality long-term users saying this person is a problem in the community? Send them to the shadow realm until they behave."


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radical rhino
03/18/21 12:16:53 PM
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So auto-ban everyone with mainstream Republican political views?

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Irony
03/18/21 12:18:06 PM
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radical rhino posted...
So auto-ban everyone with mainstream Republican political views?
I'm ok with this

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:18:34 PM
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radical rhino posted...
So auto-ban everyone with mainstream Republican political views?

Not at all. If it's mainstream it's normal conversation and there's hundreds of thousands of people on twitter and reddit who are having those views all the time.

It's literally to address the problem described in the link I gave:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-backed-facebook-accounts-organized-events-on-all-sides-of-polarizing-issues-1509355801

If this place wants to actually ever be relevant again lol. It used to be a top 10 site, right? Then reddit came along and ate its lunch. Also I made this earlier and it's addressed to CE vets who still support the GOP and its current situation. Please consider reading it!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79355395

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:19:19 PM
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Irony posted...
I'm ok with this

That's not the intention or how it would be used at all. It's not how this technology gets used on platforms with significantly more users and ad revenue flowing through them.

Gamefaqs could be one of those sites again, but it would require some serious work.

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Questionmarktarius
03/18/21 12:22:36 PM
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pure_temper posted...
If this place wants to actually ever be relevant again lol. It used to be a top 10 site, right?
Go as transparent as possible, even to the point of making user tags public.

"[user] is blocking you."
"You are ignoring [user]."
"Message deleted by [moderator] for [reason] ([TOS line number]). Reported by [user], [user], and [user]"
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CE_gonna_CE
03/18/21 12:24:44 PM
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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:25:58 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Go as transparent as possible, even to the point of making user tags public.

"[user] is blocking you."
"You are ignoring [user]."
"Message deleted by [moderator] for [reason] ([TOS line number]). Reported by [user], [user], and [user]"

Honestly none of that is even really necessary. People get trapped into pipelines trending them towards alt-right or tankie ideologies. If they don't get negative reinforcement from hits on their shitty ideas or reinforcement from "hehehe I got people to block me" then they'll just move on to new ideas.

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armandro
03/18/21 12:29:22 PM
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Supernatural posted...
yeah sure but can we first fix the alt problem?

(posting from my alt)
This me

CE should be behind a paywall

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:33:38 PM
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armandro posted...
This me

CE should be behind a paywall

This would not be fair to users who cannot pay for it. Ad revenue drives twitter and reddit and that's true here too.

The data needed to make this happen on Gamefaqs should already exist. >_>

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AdmiralStiff
03/18/21 12:36:38 PM
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Just launch your own discord server

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:37:19 PM
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AdmiralStiff posted...
Just launch your own discord server

nah that's boring, the message board or public thread format is more fun on gamefaqs/reddit/twitter

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armandro
03/18/21 12:38:42 PM
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pure_temper posted...
This would not be fair to users who cannot pay for it. Ad revenue drives twitter and reddit and that's true here too.

The data needed to make this happen on Gamefaqs should already exist. >_>
They can pay for it using GameFAQs tokens.
writing reviews and contributing to the site

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:41:26 PM
#31:


armandro posted...
They can pay for it using GameFAQs tokens.
writing reviews and contributing to the site

I understand the idea but from a funding perspective, ad revenue and paid features would be sufficient tbh. The idea would be to get more people flocking here and trusting that it's a fun place.

The guides feature has come a long way since it's early days, so making it even better so people want to use it is great. Making them searchable, allowing media to be embedded in them, etc. But I wouldn't require contributing to them as a condition for an account, because then no users.

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armandro
03/18/21 12:43:54 PM
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pure_temper posted...
I understand the idea but from a funding perspective, ad revenue and paid features would be sufficient tbh. The idea would be to get more people flocking here and trusting that it's a fun place.

The guides feature has come a long way since it's early days, so making it even better so people want to use it is great. Making them searchable, allowing media to be embedded in them, etc. But I wouldn't require contributing to them as a condition for an account, because then no users.
GameFAQs Gold
with the ability to only view GameFAQs Gold people.

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:44:45 PM
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armandro posted...
GameFAQs Gold
with the ability to only view GameFAQs Gold people.

That could be an optional thing I guess. In the past if you gilded someone on reddit you could participate in gold-only threads/subreddits, so definitely could be a thing.

Lots of possibilities!

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ZeroX91
03/18/21 12:52:39 PM
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pure_temper posted...
Obviously it would require a curating function. Not just based on the absolute # of blocks.

It has to be answering this question:

"Are enough quality long-term users saying this person is a problem in the community? Send them to the shadow realm until they behave."
You say that but longterm=quality.

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pure_temper
03/18/21 12:54:39 PM
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ZeroX91 posted...
You say that but longterm=quality.

hmmm?

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it's not on reddit and twitter

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ZeroX91
03/18/21 1:02:43 PM
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pure_temper posted...
hmmm?
I can name a few but i dont wanna start a whole thing

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pure_temper
03/18/21 1:03:49 PM
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ZeroX91 posted...
I can name a few but i dont wanna start a whole thing

Those vets are just trapped in GOP propaganda still. They're fundamentally reasonable people at heart, and hardworking. They just haven't realized that anyone under $50 million net worth has to be on the same side lol. Because we're all trash to Bezos at the end of the day. ;)

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