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Damn_Underscore 03/04/21 8:06:54 PM #1: |
Do you agree with this statement?
Vote
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:10:21 PM #2: |
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
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Wii_Shaker 03/04/21 8:11:36 PM #3: |
I do agree with this.
Biden is a weak candidate and if Trump didn't shit the bed with Covid Biden would not have won. That being said, I don't know how effective Bernie's America would really be based on what he promised. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM, G.O.A.T. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 03/04/21 8:12:25 PM #4: |
Don't know, and no longer care. I've given up on being progressive, it's a lost cause.
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Broseph_Stalin 03/04/21 8:12:58 PM #6: |
oh we're still doing this
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Doom_Art 03/04/21 8:14:10 PM #7: |
Bernie is a wonderful dude but he is a terrible politician and a miserable campaigner
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Jiek_Fafn 03/04/21 8:14:41 PM #8: |
Here's how he can still win!
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:15:42 PM #9: |
Doom_Art posted...
Bernie is a wonderful dude but he is a terrible politician and a miserable campaignerAre you a senator? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g980 03/04/21 8:15:45 PM #10: |
well my personal circle of friends would have voted for him, so i'm assuming he was wildly popular and the news lied to me
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Broseph_Stalin 03/04/21 8:16:40 PM #11: |
the different reactions we had to bernie bros claiming an election was rigged vs trump supporters doing the same thing is kind of interesting though
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Doom_Art 03/04/21 8:18:06 PM #12: |
ButteryMales posted...
Are you a senator?Are you suggesting I can only critique someone else's political skills if I'm a politician --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 03/04/21 8:18:41 PM #13: |
Wii_Shaker posted...
Trump didn't shit the bed with Covid Idk where you've been but I've seen fears of shutdowns and mask mandates invigorating Trump's base. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:18:41 PM #14: |
Had Pete not been bribed with a cabinet position things could have easily gone differently.
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Broseph_Stalin 03/04/21 8:20:00 PM #15: |
COVxy posted...
Idk where you've been but I've seen fears of shutdowns and mask mandates invigorating Trump's base. they were guaranteeing a Biden loss, they need an excuse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 03/04/21 8:22:45 PM #16: |
how did the DNC stop him? From the voting numbers, it looks like Biden basically stomped him in the primaries outside of a few states.
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Vicious_Dios 03/04/21 8:22:57 PM #17: |
He would've won if his policies weren't awful.
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:23:12 PM #18: |
Doom_Art posted...
Are you suggesting I can only critique someone else's political skills if I'm a politicianThat was an impromptu way to say being a successful multi-campaign winning senator means you're wrong. Losing a primary in 2nd place just shows he's not as good of a schemer as Biden and associates. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 03/04/21 8:23:38 PM #19: |
The DNC would rather have Trump win over Bernie.
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UnfairRepresent 03/04/21 8:23:54 PM #20: |
Not even close
Bernie can't even rally his own party and would be torn apart by the right Biden was a former VP, lifelong political servant with no real controversies, hugely popular among Dems, Moderates and conservatives who aren't Republican Also the older population who vote. There's a reason why Biden got more votes than anyone else in history and turned Georgia blue There's a reason Trump was shit scared of Biden but really really really really wanted the Dem nomination to be Sanders. Biden would have won in 2016 if he ran. Crazy to think of the butterfly effect of Beau dying was Trump's presidency. This whole myth of Biden being a weak candidate and Sanders being a powerhouse is a really dumb meme that shows a complete (probably intentional) lack of understanding of basic facts and history. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 03/04/21 8:24:11 PM #21: |
ButteryMales posted...
That was a impromptu way to say being a successful multi campaign winning senator means you're wrong. Losing a primary in 2nd place just shows he's not as good of a schemer as Biden and associates.He did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/04/21 8:25:45 PM #22: |
Lol. A lot of low information people on this site if they think that
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UnfairRepresent 03/04/21 8:25:47 PM #23: |
PMarth2002 posted...
how did the DNC stop him? From the voting numbers, it looks like Biden basically stomped him in the primaries outside of a few states.Other candidates pulled out and endorsed Biden. Sanders fans insist they did this intentionally because they would have split Bidens vote where as Bernie's support base is rabid. Basically intentionally fucking Bernie over by giving Dems less options. There is no evidence to support this though. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/04/21 8:26:12 PM #24: |
Cheater87 posted...
The DNC would rather have Trump win over Bernie. DNC voters you mean ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:26:59 PM #25: |
Doom_Art posted...
He did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016He got 2nd place in 2016. He didn't have a chairman to bribe then. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 03/04/21 8:27:32 PM #26: |
Cheater87 posted...
The DNC would rather have Trump win over Bernie. This is the silliest thing I've seen people voluntarily repeat. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 8:28:36 PM #28: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
There is no evidence to support this though.Pete just has a cabinet position. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 03/04/21 8:28:39 PM #29: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
There's a reason Trump was shit scared of Biden but really really really really wanted the Dem nomination to be Sanders. lmao I still remember bernie bros claiming Trumps praise for Sanders was some kind of reverse psychology ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 03/04/21 8:29:58 PM #30: |
Doom_Art posted...
but he is a terrible politicianNot really, he's called the amendment king for a reason. Got more amendments passed during his time in the HoR than anyone else. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKJ 03/04/21 8:43:43 PM #31: |
Yes in 2016, no in 2020.
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Proto_Spark 03/04/21 8:48:51 PM #32: |
In 2020 COVID completely killed Bernies momentum and without being able to do stuff like throw rallies, he couldnt get any momentum back. And Bernie was considered unlikely to win before all that. Also 1/2 the field giving up and endorsing Biden had to have done plenty too.
you could maybe argue 2016, since Clinton ran a very weak campaign, and Sanders had the same we need real change outlook trump was pushing, but even then Id say its still a stretch. Being a democrat also meant Bernie wouldnt have the cult-like support Trump did and so probably wouldnt be nearly as successful. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/04/21 9:07:08 PM #33: |
Proto_Spark posted...
In 2020 COVID completely killed Bernies momentum and without being able to do stuff like throw rallies, he couldnt get any momentum back. And Bernie was considered unlikely to win before all that. Also 1/2 the field giving up and endorsing Biden had to have done plenty too. Bernie lost to Biden before Covid really took affect by losing in South Carolina so badly and what sucks is instead of any retrospection, his close crew of David Sirota and Brihana Joy Gray simply thought they werent nasty and negative enough lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 03/04/21 9:25:51 PM #34: |
After their chosen candidate loses the 2024 primary, the online left will close their eyes, inhale slowly, and say to themselves "We weren't nasty enough."
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 9:27:27 PM #35: |
Doom_Art posted...
After their chosen candidate loses the 2024 primary, the online left will close their eyes, inhale slowly, and say to themselves "We weren't nasty enough."How the hell is a progressive going to get in the Republican primary? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 03/04/21 9:27:43 PM #36: |
"Stop" him by getting more votes the democratic primary? Twice?
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ButteryMales 03/04/21 9:29:39 PM #37: |
BeantownHero posted...
"Stop" him by getting more votes the democratic primary? Twice?Debbie and Pete were bribed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadowplay 03/04/21 9:30:16 PM #38: |
The main reason the Dems lost in 2016 was because third parties drained enough votes away from Hillary to hand the election to Trump. If they had run someone other than Hillary, the attacks would not have stuck. We saw that Biden didn't face any of the same image problems that Hillary did, as none of the conspiracy BS really stuck with him. So yeah, I think that damn near anyone else would have beaten Trump.
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PMarth2002 03/04/21 9:51:09 PM #39: |
Shadowplay posted...
The main reason the Dems lost in 2016 was because third parties drained enough votes away from Hillary to hand the election to Trump. If they had run someone other than Hillary, the attacks would not have stuck. We saw that Biden didn't face any of the same image problems that Hillary did, as none of the conspiracy BS really stuck with him. So yeah, I think that damn near anyone else would have beaten Trump. She already beat trump by 3 million votes. how many votes did she need to win by to make it stick? 4 million? 5 million? 6? its pretty absurd when you can win more votes and still lose an election. --- You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadowplay 03/05/21 1:17:59 AM #41: |
PMarth2002 posted...
She already beat trump by 3 million votes. how many votes did she need to win by to make it stick? 4 million? 5 million? 6?She needed more than the 79,000 or so that Trump beat her by. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arcanine2009 03/05/21 1:43:02 AM #42: |
Doom_Art posted...
Bernie is a wonderful dude but he is a terrible politician and a miserable campaignerhis policies being feasible is one thing.. but what makes him a terrible politician... he is a terrible politician because he actually cares about the working class and isn't lying to his teeth to get votes? Dude also raised the most from grassroots than any other politician. if the DNC didn't fuck him over and clearly stage support for biden by dropping the other candidates and supporting him, there was a good chance he would have won. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Polycosm 03/05/21 1:57:27 AM #43: |
The DNC campaigned against Bernie in 2016 in a really gross way... but it didn't change the outcome.
As for 2020... the DNC had nothing to do with it. The moderate wing of the party coordinated a mass drop-out so that Biden would have a big enough coalition to overtake Bernie. This most likely swung the outcome, and while it may have been a disappointing turn of events for some, it was absolutely fair. --- Thus in 2020 did Allen send forth a great flood, that destroyed the gurus and all users that lived on land, except those in azuarc. (thengamer.com/guru) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Graycap 03/05/21 2:00:22 AM #44: |
He was going to lose 2016 no matter what.
He might have won 2020 if a ton of prominent Democrats didn't all randomly endorse Biden (who was previously getting thrashed in 3rd place) in the same week, but that has nothing to do with the DNC. --- Say it on your main. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 03/05/21 2:01:24 AM #45: |
The media class would sabotage him so bad, be it by championing someone like Bloomberg as a third party candidate, or something else. It's clear the establishment don't want Bernie, and they'll go to great lengths to ruin his chances.
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InhumaneRaider 03/05/21 2:03:20 AM #46: |
This thread reminds me why I hate Liberals...Jesus fuck some of you are as insufferable as Conservatives.
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Caroniver 03/05/21 2:05:47 AM #47: |
The DNC and the RNC both did everything they could to slander Bernie.
If the DNC had backed Bernie from the beginning instead of slandering him in favor of Biden, I think he might've had a fighting chance. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 03/05/21 2:11:14 AM #48: |
I don't see any outcome where Bernie could have won in 2016 if the DNC hadn't been in cahoots with Hillary, but they obviously were and shouldn't have been.
I don't really see any issues in 2020. I don't understand the criticism that candidates dropping out and endorsing another candidate is somehow dirty tactics or rigging. It's the intelligent thing to do. Warren staying in does seem suspicious at its face, but nothing beyond something that makes me raise my eyebrows. Dropping out and endorsing someone is probably difficult after you pathetically tried to label them a sexist to steal their voters. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/05/21 2:30:13 AM #49: |
Caroniver posted...
The DNC and the RNC both did everything they could to slander Bernie.Maybe the RNC did I dunno but Trump buried Biden/Clinton while going easy on Sanders. Trump absolutely wanted Sanders to win the primary because he knew Sanders had no chance --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 03/05/21 2:40:24 AM #50: |
Phone bank for Bernie. I called 20 people today Reddit
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