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How do you explain the changes in law from the Old Testament to the new Testament? Even God's law has to evolve with the time

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It did. Abrahamic law -> Mosaic Law -> Christian Law -> Muslim Law
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There's a whole religion that addresses this

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Jesus said it was because people are so hard to teach, I think.

And plenty of the laws did stay the same. The Ten Commandments, which are extremely important, never changed (although the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday).

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and yet there are theists that treat part of Leviticus as being more important than the ten commandments, while ignoring the rest

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teep_ posted...

It did. Abrahamic law -> Mosaic Law -> Christian Law -> Muslim Law

-> Jude Law

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It has to do with the plan of salvation.

Sins being washed away could not happen until the cross. So even the Hebrews of old like David could not stand before God boldy as all they had was the blood of bulls and goats.

The book of Hebrews addresses this directly.

The purpose of the Old Law was to prep for the enactment of the plan of salvation.
It is well known that even the Jews who don't believe in Jesus are looking for a messiah to come.
So this isn't some new idea that Christianity made btw.

Infact Moses said a prophet like him would rise up and the messianic prophecies said the gentiles would seek after him. Abraham's seed would bless all mankind.

This is interesting because at the time of these writings the gentiles were seen as dogs and yet it clearly states they will follow the messiah and be blessed by him.

Oddly enough, gentiles took quite a liking to Jesus.

Just another huge mega "coincidence" among a sea of them

They are two separate gods, how many times do I have to say this shit

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BignutzisBack posted...

They are two separate gods, how many times do I have to say this shit

Except that God's wrath exists in the New Testament. The grapes of wrath is Jesus coming with bloodstains of his enemies all over his body.

And the Old Testament also had a merciful God. Look up Manasseh. If someone really humbled themselves, even in the Old Testament mercy was found. That is, Manasseh was kinda bad dude.

jpenny2 posted...

teep_ posted...

It did. Abrahamic law -> Mosaic Law -> Christian Law -> Muslim Law

-> Jude Law

-> mother in law
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WingsOfGood posted...

Infact Moses said a prophet like him would rise up

In what sense was Jesus like Moses?
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its a mythology written a milennium ago just like greek or roman mythology. its not meant to hold up under scrutiny because it was written when nobody could read

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Also, the bible literally says God can change his mind.

You are conflating he cannot break his promises and his nature doesn't change with him not changing his mind.

Ex: he repented that he made man. Literally means he changed his mind and felt regret.

Ex2: he told Moses he was gonna smite the Jews and use Moses to continue Abraham's seed

Ex3: Jesus tells people to pray to change God's mind regarding a prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem.

Unchanging God however means what was a sin since Adam still is. What was just still is, etc.

And cannot break promise means after he told Abraham to bless the world by his seed he will eventually do it even if all the Kings of Isreal are wicked and upset him.

teep_ posted...

In what sense was Jesus like Moses?

A bringer of a testament or covenant.

Moses brought the old law, Jesus brought the new law.

Bananana posted...

its a mythology written a milennium ago just like greek or roman mythology. its not meant to hold up under scrutiny because it was written when nobody could read

Which is astoundint that it does. You will find alot of criticism comes from people not really reading it.
For example, the bible says God can change his mind. Yet people ran with this thread like it was a valid criticism.

WingsOfGood posted...

teep_ posted...

In what sense was Jesus like Moses?

A bringer of a testament or covenant.

Moses brought the old law, Jesus brought the new law.

But didn't Jesus himself say he came to fulfill the law, not change it?
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teep_ posted...

But didn't Jesus himself say he came to fulfill the law, not change it?

Yes. As said, OT is prep work for the NT.

So the OT fufilled its purpose.

teep_ posted...

-> mother in law

-> Bird law

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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao

Wonder what thought process a Jewish prophet in the B.C. era where his people were getting killed by gentile nations, and they really had lots of animousity, wrote down that the messiah of his people was gonna be popular among the gentiles and they gonna seek him out and follow him. You would think since he just making things up, instead they would get killed by the messiah instead.

Isaiah 11:10

And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Fyi, the Jews in Jesus' age thought the Messiah would fight and conqueror Rome. In their view, he was the bitter enemy of the gentiles.

Yet.... somehow a dude 700 years before the age of Rome, while his people still suffered the effects of hard bondage by the gentile Babylonians, just somehow took a shot in the dark that the gentiles would seek the messiah. Idk why he would do that but he did.
He had to be wrong. Surely.

Yet Jesus was more popular among the Gentiles than the Jews...

Also, similar is found in Isaiah 49:6. So it is definitely something Isaiah was betting on.

And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

God doesn't change nor his purposes but Moses, David and the Apostles didn't have the same information during their lives

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Isaiah 42

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

Funny thing about this is that one might say the story of Jesus was altered to make it look like he fulfilled certain prophecies.

Many events during the crucifixion fulfilled peophecy.
One can attempt to say the apostles knew prophecy and wrote the gospels to make it look like his cruxifiction did that.

But the apostles couldn't force the gentiles to adopt christianity en mass like they did.

Infact, it is documented that the acceptance of the gentiles was kinda a thing the disciples had to warm up to; they as Jews kinda had been used to segregation from those who were not Jews.

A child can figure out that the bible is full of inconsistencies, just like how tic tac toe is a broken game.

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