Current Events > Police: "Being offensive is an offence. Sorry, no it's not."

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Bass_X0 02/23/21 1:16:10 PM #1:	https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/23/merseyside-police-apologise-for-being-offensive-is-an-offence-billboard-14129442 police in England attempted to crack down on hate speech and hate crime against LGBTQ+ only to be told they couldnt actually claim being offensive is an offence and had to apologise, and take back what they said. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:950985077] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/23/merseyside-police-apologise-for-being-offensive-is-an-offence-billboard-14129442 police in England attempted to crack down on hate speech and hate crime against LGBTQ+ only to be told they couldnt actually claim being offensive is an offence and had to apologise, and take back what they said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 02/23/21 1:18:55 PM #2:	The UK arrest people for saying something offensive online often enough that I'm actually surprised they got pushed back on this one. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:950985178] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>The UK arrest people for saying something offensive online often enough that I'm actually surprised they got pushed back on this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/23/21 1:21:21 PM #3:	Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:950985255] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 02/23/21 1:26:33 PM #4:	emblem boy posted... Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:950985463] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"?</quote> Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 02/23/21 1:26:47 PM #5:	I thought only far left outcasts on twitter had this mindset? --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:950985468] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>I thought only far left outcasts on twitter had this mindset? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/23/21 1:38:39 PM #6:	Paragon21XX posted... emblem boy posted... Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime. Hate crime isn't a thing in UK? --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:950985874] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote> emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? </quote> Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime.</quote> Hate crime isn't a thing in UK?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 02/23/21 1:52:45 PM #7:	emblem boy posted... Paragon21XX posted... emblem boy posted... Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime. Hate crime isn't a thing in UK? It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior). --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:950986372] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote> emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? </quote> Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime.</quote> Hate crime isn't a thing in UK?</quote> It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/23/21 2:15:54 PM #8:	Paragon21XX posted... emblem boy posted... Paragon21XX posted... emblem boy posted... Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime. Hate crime isn't a thing in UK? It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior). I guess my point is, it seems like a wording issue. The text on the billboard says something like "we will not tolerate hate crime". It's blurry and I can't read it. I remember seeing this picture a few days ago though and I first thought it was just a benign billboard saying not to do hate crimes. Not that being offensive is a crime. But I guess the phrasing can be misconstrued. --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:950987267] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote> emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Is it more that "doing hate crime is an offense"? </quote> Only when an actual crime is committed. Hate by itself is not a crime. </quote> Hate crime isn't a thing in UK?</quote> It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior).</quote> I guess my point is, it seems like a wording issue. The text on the billboard says something like "we will not tolerate hate crime". It's blurry and I can't read it. I remember seeing this picture a few days ago though and I first thought it was just a benign billboard saying not to do hate crimes. Not that being offensive is a crime. But I guess the phrasing can be misconstrued.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 02/23/21 2:21:33 PM #9:	emblem boy posted... I guess my point is, it seems like a wording issue. The text on the billboard says something like "we will not tolerate hate crime". It's blurry and I can't read it. I remember seeing this picture a few days ago though and I first thought it was just a benign billboard saying not to do hate crimes. Not that being offensive is a crime. But I guess the phrasing can be misconstrued. The confusion comes from the fact that the UK actually has fairly stringent hate crime laws when it comes to saying things online. So in an informal sense being offensive online in the UK could constitute a hate crime, which would make being "offensive an offense." They were just being cheeky about it with the billboard phrase. Here's a 2014 guardian article with some examples: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:950987455] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote>I guess my point is, it seems like a wording issue. The text on the billboard says something like "we will not tolerate hate crime". It's blurry and I can't read it. I remember seeing this picture a few days ago though and I first thought it was just a benign billboard saying not to do hate crimes. Not that being offensive is a crime. But I guess the phrasing can be misconstrued.</quote> The confusion comes from the fact that the UK actually has fairly stringent hate crime laws when it comes to saying things online. So in an informal sense being offensive online in the UK could constitute a hate crime, which would make being "offensive an offense." They were just being cheeky about it with the billboard phrase. Here's a 2014 guardian article with some examples: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 02/23/21 2:22:30 PM #10:	oi you got a loicense for that speech? --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:950987491] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>oi you got a loicense for that speech? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 02/24/21 5:26:08 PM #11:	I think they just realized they needed a warrant first since hate speech is illegal. --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:951032419] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>I think they just realized they needed a warrant first since hate speech is illegal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 02/24/21 5:42:07 PM #12:	Paragon21XX posted... It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior). It also bears consideration on what qualifies as a crime. Should that youtuber Count Dankula have been tried, convicted, and fined over a comedic youtube video? I would like to think most people would say no, but that looks to be what happened. <cite>Esrac posted [p:951032946] in Police: &q... [t:79312441]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted... </cite> <quote>It is, but it must also be a crime by its own merits, otherwise it's considered only a hate incident which are reportable but not immediately punishable (record is kept to help determine if a crime committed later should be tried as a hate crime by establishing a pattern of behavior).</quote> It also bears consideration on what qualifies as a crime. Should that youtuber Count Dankula have been tried, convicted, and fined over a comedic youtube video? I would like to think most people would say no, but that looks to be what happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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