Current Events > Butch Hartman, a well-known cartoonist, traced from a Japanese artist

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 11:35:20 AM
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https://www.thethings.com/nickelodeons-butch-hartman-trends-on-twitter-due-to-tracing-art-for-commission-money/

...or heavily referenced, if poorly. He's charging $200 for plagiarized art commissions, just because he's famous. Note that this is far from the only scandal he committed (fundraiser scam, prejudice, etc.). That said, it's a new low, even for him.

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HighOnSolar
02/22/21 11:36:31 AM
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Danny phantom and fairly odd parents were my childhood please delete this topic

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TheBlueMonk_
02/22/21 11:39:48 AM
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https://twitter.com/jammkamm/status/1363605634193653761/photo/2

its not even a good trace. i could do better

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nemu
02/22/21 11:41:05 AM
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That one looks more like copied the exact pose than traced, but looks like he has traced other stuff.
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Questionmarktarius
02/22/21 11:42:35 AM
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Oh look, a "news" story that's mostly just assembled from tweets.
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Medussa
02/22/21 11:42:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMwhZryRUr4

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02/22/21 11:44:24 AM
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DirkDiggles
02/22/21 11:47:54 AM
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Lol he looks like he did that to troll the gullibles. I mean, this is an artist who created shows like Fairly Odd Parents. Wouldn't they want art in that style instead?

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LostForest
02/22/21 11:50:01 AM
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That looks like same-pose, not a trace.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/22/21 11:53:52 AM
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TheBlueMonk_ posted...
https://twitter.com/jammkamm/status/1363605634193653761/photo/2

its not even a good trace. i could do better

Hmm. Doesn't look like he traced it to me because some elements are slightly different from the original piece.

It's more likely that he did a quick Google search, and used the original image as a reference not knowing it was the work of an independent artist.

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Sheiky-Baby
02/22/21 11:53:54 AM
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That's not a trace, just drawing the same pose in his own style. I don't see anything wrong with it. I thought it was going to be a 1:1 on a trace paper job.

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Aki_Sora
02/22/21 11:53:54 AM
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So people can sell fan art and not give a single cent to original author isayama

Man that shit
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Cookie Bag
02/22/21 11:54:46 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Lol he looks like he did that to troll the gullibles. I mean, this is an artist who created shows like Fairly Odd Parents. Wouldn't they want art in that style instead?
The actual artist was stephen silver, this guy literally charged $200+ or so for this garbage art lol

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Irony
02/22/21 11:55:38 AM
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That doesn't look traced. The eyes are different

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Damn_Underscore
02/22/21 11:56:02 AM
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LostForest posted...
That looks like same-pose, not a trace.

This.

You can see the belts around her legs are different in each version.

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LordFarquad1312
02/22/21 11:56:19 AM
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From the countless videos I've watched on Butch Hartman being a hack, it seems Stephen Silver is responsible for the iconic art style.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 11:56:38 AM
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HighOnSolar posted...
Danny phantom and fairly odd parents were my childhood please delete this topic
Gotta face reality, you know.

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MC_BatCommander
02/22/21 11:57:12 AM
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Ah yes, a trace where literally everything about the picture except how she's posing looks different

I will say his style is pretty ugly, can't imagine paying for that drawing lmao

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viewmaster_pi
02/22/21 12:00:35 PM
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while it doesn't look straight up traced, he certainly did copy it. why not at least TRY a unique pose? it's disrespectful to the client and original artist to pull that shit for a paid product

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LordFarquad1312
02/22/21 12:02:09 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
while it doesn't look straight up traced, he certainly did copy it. why not at least TRY a unique pose? it's disrespectful to the client and original artist to pull that shit for a paid product
He's been doing it for years

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:02:09 PM
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Sheiky-Baby posted...
That's not a trace, just drawing the same pose in his own style. I don't see anything wrong with it. I thought it was going to be a 1:1 on a trace paper job.
He's charging $200 for it. And there are errors on the art.

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Doom_Art
02/22/21 12:03:20 PM
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Outside of this why does Hartmann suck?

Not defending him I just don't know anything about the guy

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viewmaster_pi
02/22/21 12:03:35 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
He's been doing it for years
bitch fartman

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LightHawKnight
02/22/21 12:03:44 PM
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Gr8M8 posted...
He's charging $200 for it. And there are errors on the art.

Doesnt errors mean it really isn't tracing? Copying I see, tracing? Eh.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:05:12 PM
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Aki_Sora posted...
So people can sell fan art and not give a single cent to original author isayama
That's not the point, it's about blatant plagiarism with a price tag.

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Irony
02/22/21 12:05:56 PM
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Gr8M8 posted...
That's not the point, it's about blatant plagiarism with a price tag.
That's what he said

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/22/21 12:06:17 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
while it doesn't look straight up traced, he certainly did copy it. why not at least TRY a unique pose? it's disrespectful to the client and original artist to pull that shit for a paid product

Artists copy poses all the time, usually just adding their own unique flair to it.

And I think in this particular instance, it's likely whoever commissioned him sent him this photo and he just went with it. And probably didn't know exactly how to pose her due to unfamiliarity with the character.

Not to defend Butch Hartman because I hear he's a shit person, but the only reason this is getting this much attention is because he's a famous artist.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:07:19 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I will say his style is pretty ugly, can't imagine paying for that drawing lmao
Me neither.

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coh
02/22/21 12:15:07 PM
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I dont get why he doesnt do it in the style of DAnny Phantom/fairly odd parents. Isnt that what people want?
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LordFarquad1312
02/22/21 12:21:34 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Outside of this why does Hartmann suck?

Not defending him I just don't know anything about the guy
A while back he tried to crowdfund a streaming service. He pitched it as a "family friendly network" to backers, but he actually pitched it as basically a Christian indoctrination network to investors. When people found out, they rightly asked for their money back, which he refused.

coh posted...
I dont get why he doesnt do it in the style of DAnny Phantom/fairly odd parents. Isnt that what people want?
Cause that's not his style, it's Stephen Silver's

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:29:24 PM
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coh posted...
I dont get why he doesnt do it in the style of Danny Phantom/fairly odd parents. Isnt that what people want?
The last time he did that style, it was of inferior quality.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:30:11 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Doesnt errors mean it really isn't tracing? Copying I see, tracing? Eh.
He's still plagiarizing.

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smoke_break
02/22/21 12:38:24 PM
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Just looks like the same angle and pose, which is okay. Tracing isn't, but that doesn't look like what he did. General public again seems to be misinformed about this kind of thing.

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Sheiky-Baby
02/22/21 12:39:46 PM
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Gr8M8 posted...
He's still plagiarizing.
I think your problem is with the guy himself, not his drawings.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:42:55 PM
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smoke_break posted...
Just looks like the same angle and pose, which is okay. Tracing isn't, but that doesn't look like what he did. General public again seems to be misinformed about this kind of thing.
Same character and outfit too.

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Solar_Crimson
02/22/21 12:43:27 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
A while back he tried to crowdfund a streaming service. He pitched it as a "family friendly network" to backers, but he actually pitched it as basically a Christian indoctrination network to investors. When people found out, they rightly asked for their money back, which he refused.

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These, and he also believes that prayer can cure autism.

He also overcharges for everything.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 12:43:53 PM
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Conflict posted...
He's a glaring homophobe and oversensitive clown

And he was never really a good writer or artist for that matter
He also thinks mental disabilities are curable diseases.

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cymbaline
02/22/21 12:45:26 PM
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Gr8M8 posted...
He also thinks mental disabilities are curable diseases.
And he blamed Tara Strong for Mary Kay Bergman's suicide.

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Kingbuffet
02/22/21 12:46:42 PM
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It's definitely referenced but not traced. I think that's acceptable in the art world (free liberation) but charging $200 is messed up
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CyricZ
02/22/21 12:48:06 PM
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Like I don't give a shit if you trace or reference someone's work and are like "here I did this as an exercise".

But when it's "also here's an example of what I'll do if you pay me money" that goes into stink town.

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viewmaster_pi
02/22/21 12:56:50 PM
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CrimsonWaffle
02/22/21 1:01:24 PM
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https://youtu.be/HVn62SoIugw

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 1:13:06 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
LMAO

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coh
02/22/21 1:15:38 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Cause that's not his style, it's Stephen Silver's
What the fuck. Everything Ive known is a lie
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DB_Insider
02/22/21 1:20:09 PM
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Sheiky-Baby posted...
That's not a trace, just drawing the same pose in his own style. I don't see anything wrong with it. I thought it was going to be a 1:1 on a trace paper job.
@sheiky-baby e-excuse me sir mr sheiky, but coping a copy righted pose is agaisnts the law.
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spikethedevil
02/22/21 1:21:58 PM
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cymbaline posted...
And he blamed Tara Strong for Mary Kay Bergman's suicide.

What the fuck?

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ManaYuka
02/22/21 1:28:38 PM
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As a Graphic Novelist let me say, its not a trace, but it is definitely plagiarism. He copied the pose, which is entirely acceptable if you use a different character. But this guy decided to do the same character, and made an inferior work in his "style". This is why people choose other characters, so your not compared to others and seen as a hack.

Top it off, the original art was fanart, and this is a commission. Highly unethical. Wont get him fired or anything, just makes him a douchebag.

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Gr8M8
02/22/21 1:51:42 PM
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CrimsonWaffle posted...
https://youtu.be/HVn62SoIugw
I can't believe Tara Strong managed to stomach this.

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