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hockeybub89
02/23/21 4:02:36 AM
#103:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
I was told by CE that China hates the Uyghurs and that they're being thrown into concentration camps and murdered.

Sure, if there were a real genocide, I could understand there would be survivors and people hiding to save their lives. But this woman isn't even in hiding or afraid of her life; she's literally THE BIGGEST MOVIE STAR in China. And she's not the only one.

Explain that logic to me.
"How can Trump supporters be racist if they don't beat all black people to death on sight?"

"How can the Nazis be Aryan supremacists if they let Muslims and black people in the Wehrmacht? Hitler had a Jewish friend!"

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/23/21 4:10:07 AM
#104:


TrowaBarton7 posted...


Sure, if there were a real genocide, I could understand there would be survivors and people hiding to save their lives. But this woman isn't even in hiding or afraid of her life; she's literally THE BIGGEST MOVIE STAR in China. And she's not the only one.

A handful of token icons? That is exactly the kind of shit used to deflect bigotry. There were black people in the KKK, the Proud Boys maintained a token as a "co leader" under they stopped pretending. Hitler put a Jew in the Olympics. Was there no genocide of Jews by Nazi Germany? Hm?

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scar the 1
02/23/21 4:14:07 AM
#105:


Israel has like the world's biggest pride parade, but gay people can't get married.

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2Pacavelli
02/23/21 4:21:37 AM
#106:


EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
There were black people in the KKK

Citations on this please

The only Black person I know of in the KKK was Daryl Davis who was a cop that infiltrated it over the phone. But had a white coworker officer as a stand in to attend meetings. Other than that I havent seen any documented instance of actual Black people in the KKK

I agree with your overall point though. Theres lots of instances of racist entities using handpicked sellouts as tokens to provide cover for their racist activities. And this was done in. Nazi Germany and America, and is probably being done in China right now too
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JTilly
02/23/21 4:22:04 AM
#107:


@Shablagoo

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nfearurspecimn
02/23/21 4:23:27 AM
#108:


over under on how long this TrowaBarton7 account will last?

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JTilly
02/23/21 4:24:09 AM
#109:


nfearurspecimn posted...
over under on how long this TrowaBarton7 account will last?
discord?

@TeaMilk

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DeadBankerDream
02/23/21 4:32:42 AM
#110:


TrowaBarton7 posted...


Then explain to me then why the most famous actress in China is a Uyghur woman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilraba_Dilmurat



China really must be failing at their genocide if they're letting Uyghurs escape and become rich famous movie stars.

This post reminds me of that time Israel sent a duo of an Israeli and a Palestinian to the Eurovision Song Contest to sing a song about peace or some shit.
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Flauros
02/23/21 4:40:40 AM
#111:


JTilly posted...
@Shablagoo
he cant hear you. hes in time out

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 4:43:08 AM
#112:


EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
A handful of token icons? That is exactly the kind of shit used to deflect bigotry. There were black people in the KKK, the Proud Boys maintained a token as a "co leader" under they stopped pretending. Hitler put a Jew in the Olympics. Was there no genocide of Jews by Nazi Germany? Hm?

"Hi Uyghur lady, we hate your ethnicity and are currently systematically murdering your people, but we also want to make you famous actress and pay you millions of dollars, oh also you'll be working with movie directors, hair stylists, personal trainers, and chauffeurs who all hate you and wish you were dead because you are a Uyghur, but you'll be famous and we'll make you a the biggest cultural icon across all of China! How does that sound?"


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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 4:49:57 AM
#113:


2Pacavelli posted...
I agree with your overall point though. Theres lots of instances of racist entities using handpicked sellouts as tokens to provide cover for their racist activities. And this was done in. Nazi Germany and America, and is probably being done in China right now too

Uyghurs are also becoming professors in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilber_Yunus

Dilber Yunus (Uighur: ; Chinese: , Pinyin: Dlbir Yuns; born October 2, 1958) is an Uyghur lyric soprano with coloratura technique. She has been called the "Philomela of China."

Dilber Yunus has served as a distinguished professor in China Conservatory of Music between 2008 and 2018. In September 2018, she joined the Central Conservatory of Music and serves as a professor in the department of vocal arts and opera performance.[3]

Can you explain how Uyghurs are being systematically murdered, while simultaneously holding high esteemed positions in Chinese society?

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indica
02/23/21 4:50:56 AM
#114:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
"Hi Uyghur lady, we hate your ethnicity and are currently systematically murdering your people, but we also want to make you famous actress and pay you millions of dollars, oh also you'll be working with movie directors, hair stylists, personal trainers, and chauffeurs who all hate you and wish you were dead because you are a Uyghur, but you'll be famous and we'll make you a the biggest cultural icon across all of China! How does that sound?"
At least before you were citing articles that gave your argument a sense of perspective, but several people have already given very good examples of how an oppressed ethnicity in a nation can also have a few people of that ethnicity be rich and famous. At the exact same time in the US, entire black communites were being massacred while black singers were very famous. So, go back to citing articles and give up on the whole "but they're famous" shtick.

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indica
02/23/21 4:53:37 AM
#115:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
Can you explain how Uyghurs are being systematically murdered, while simultaneously holding high esteemed positions in Chinese society?
  1. Wikipedia isn't the most credible source for something this serious.
  2. People have explained over and over again how this is possible.
Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker...

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2Pacavelli
02/23/21 4:53:41 AM
#116:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
Uyghurs are also becoming professors in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilber_Yunus

Dilber Yunus (Uighur: ; Chinese: , Pinyin: Dlbir Yuns; born October 2, 1958) is an Uyghur lyric soprano with coloratura technique. She has been called the "Philomela of China."

Dilber Yunus has served as a distinguished professor in China Conservatory of Music between 2008 and 2018. In September 2018, she joined the Central Conservatory of Music and serves as a professor in the department of vocal arts and opera performance.[3]

Can you explain how Uyghurs are being systematically murdered, while simultaneously holding high esteemed positions in Chinese society?

Same way Tamir Rice was murdered and Flint happened under an Obama presidency
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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/23/21 5:01:33 AM
#117:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
"Hi Uyghur lady, we hate your ethnicity and are currently systematically murdering your people, but we also want to make you famous actress and pay you millions of dollars, oh also you'll be working with movie directors, hair stylists, personal trainers, and chauffeurs who all hate you and wish you were dead because you are a Uyghur, but you'll be famous and we'll make you a the biggest cultural icon across all of China! How does that sound?"

Now you're repeating yourself when I've already given you examples. Can you at least answer my question before you have a meltdown?

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:04:27 AM
#118:


2Pacavelli posted...
Same way Tamir Rice was murdered and Flint happened under an Obama presidency

Is a genocide happening in America?

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:07:09 AM
#119:


EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
There were black people in the KKK

Who were the black people in the KKK?

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:09:52 AM
#120:


indica posted...
At the exact same time in the US, entire black communites were being massacred while black singers were very famous.

I'm sorry, was there a systematic genocide of black people in the U.S. in the 60's?

Because last time I checked, China is being accused of a genocide involving systematic killings of the Uyghurs. These are not comparable.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/23/21 5:13:41 AM
#121:


Now we're at the sealion cavalcade of questions while dodging already-asked points. This is step 3.

Step 4 is the insult and caps phase.

edit: Easy as googlin', you only ask in hopes that I don't have an answer

https://www.quora.com/Have-there-ever-been-any-black-members-of-the-KKK

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spikethedevil
02/23/21 5:13:48 AM
#122:


Great another China genocide denier the mods are doing fuck all about.

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Eliza3
02/23/21 5:15:01 AM
#123:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
Uyghurs are also becoming professors in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilber_Yunus

Dilber Yunus (Uighur: ; Chinese: , Pinyin: Dlbir Yuns; born October 2, 1958) is an Uyghur lyric soprano with coloratura technique. She has been called the "Philomela of China."

Dilber Yunus has served as a distinguished professor in China Conservatory of Music between 2008 and 2018. In September 2018, she joined the Central Conservatory of Music and serves as a professor in the department of vocal arts and opera performance.[3]

Can you explain how Uyghurs are being systematically murdered, while simultaneously holding high esteemed positions in Chinese society?

There were Jewish Nazis too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

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UnholyMudcrab
02/23/21 5:15:09 AM
#124:


There sure are a lot of missing posts in this topic. Someone is being fed very well.
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Eliza3
02/23/21 5:20:54 AM
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David1988
02/23/21 5:21:22 AM
#126:


There were black slave owners in America, does that mean American slaves couldnt have been black? Come on, pointing out the actress and professor as reasons proving the genocide of their ethnicity is a hoax isnt exactly strong evidence. Theres always a minority of people within the group thats being victimized that sells out their own kind.


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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:29:10 AM
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Eliza3
02/23/21 5:30:11 AM
#128:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
https://twitter.com/898ccp/status/1354849223871582208
Yea I fucking know that. Glad you agree with what Dilara says. So you can stop the genocide denial bullshit.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/23/21 5:34:42 AM
#129:


In a year or so, after we have even more proof about the genocide and it becomes a Thing, you can expect shablagoo to continue to deny it. People don't die on hills from a logical standpoint, this is a dysfunction of associated self-worth, and poor analytical skills.

Screencap this for the long term callback, if you want.

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David1988
02/23/21 5:39:38 AM
#130:


EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
In a year or so, after we have even more proof about the genocide and it becomes a Thing, you can expect shablagoo to continue to deny it. People don't die on hills from a logical standpoint, this is a dysfunction of associated self-worth, and poor analytical skills.

Screencap this for the long term callback, if you want.

The funny thing is, I dont think theyre denying the genocide from a place of racism and hate as it usually is with genocide deniers. I think it has more to do with the emotional attachment they have to the idea that anything purported by the West must be false and advanced with a pro capitalist agenda.

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:40:06 AM
#131:


EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
Now we're at the sealion cavalcade of questions while dodging already-asked points. This is step 3.

Step 4 is the insult and caps phase.

edit: Easy as googlin', you only ask in hopes that I don't have an answer

https://www.quora.com/Have-there-ever-been-any-black-members-of-the-KKK

The most upvoted answer on that Quora page says that one man joined "back when the Klan was more of a vigilante police force and much less a hate group." So that doesn't count.

The other answers either say "no" there were no black KKK members, or make a joke about Dave Chappelle.

This is hardly convincing.

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indica
02/23/21 5:42:52 AM
#132:


Eliza3 posted...
Yea I fucking know that. Glad you agree with what Dilara says. So you can stop the genocide denial bullshit.
Nice Eliza

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TrowaBarton7
02/23/21 5:45:41 AM
#133:


David1988 posted...
The funny thing is, I dont think theyre denying the genocide from a place of racism and hate as it usually is with genocide deniers. I think it has more to do with the emotional attachment they have to the idea that anything purported by the West must be false and advanced with a pro capitalist agenda.

Former U.S. Ambassador Denies China Carrying Out Genocide of Uyghurs:

https://news.yahoo.com/former-u-amb-china-claims-222050821.html

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scar the 1
02/23/21 6:10:26 AM
#134:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
Former U.S. Ambassador Denies China Carrying Out Genocide of Uyghurs:

https://news.yahoo.com/former-u-amb-china-claims-222050821.html
He goes on to say that it should be called a "cultural genocide"

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Veggeta X
02/23/21 6:11:15 AM
#135:


ssjevot posted...
Averagejoel routinely defends Stalin and has denied multiple genocides. It's not a new thing here.
Really?

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DeadBankerDream
02/23/21 6:12:03 AM
#136:


TrowaBarton7 posted...


https://twitter.com/898ccp/status/1354849223871582208

What a weird admission from you.
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ssjevot
02/23/21 6:12:17 AM
#137:


Yeah it's important to remember the Native American boarding schools are considered a cultural genocide. As well as what happened to Native's in Guam and other territories. People don't mean they literally murdered those people, they mean the US government tried and largely succeeded at wiping out their cultures.

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DeadBankerDream
02/23/21 6:12:38 AM
#138:


Veggeta X posted...

Really?

I'm pretty sure he's defended the murder of the Romanovs by the Bolsheviks as necessary for the revolution.
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ssjevot
02/23/21 6:13:47 AM
#139:


Veggeta X posted...
Really?

Yep. Ask him if the Holodomer, Cambodian Genocide or even the current Uighur genocide are happening. He won't respond because he has been modded for it. He is a massive tankie. He blocked me because I kept asking him if the Holodomer happened. He also supports killing children if their parents are capitalists.

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Perthboy
02/23/21 6:18:21 AM
#140:


Yeah, genocide... I don't think it means what you think it means.

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indica
02/23/21 6:28:44 AM
#141:


ssjevot posted...
Yep. Ask him if the Holodomer, Cambodian Genocide or even the current Uighur genocide are happening. He won't respond because he has been modded for it. He is a massive tankie. He blocked me because I kept asking him if the Holodomer happened. He also supports killing children if their parents are capitalists.
WTF?

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Veggeta X
02/23/21 6:55:25 AM
#143:


16-BITTER posted...
Reminding CE of terrible things averagejoel has posted is somehow considered "trolling" here
Depends how far you take it.

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spikethedevil
02/23/21 6:59:19 AM
#144:


Disgusting that towa hasnt been modded

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ghostblob
02/23/21 7:54:17 AM
#145:


There's definitely something fucked up going on in China that seems to be genocide, but there are also issues with one of the main sources and influential supposed expert Adrian Zenz being linked to neo nazi groups and being an evangelical nutcase who believes he's on a mission from god against the rise of China.

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Goatslapper
02/23/21 7:59:26 AM
#146:


Woah. Totally misread Shabby tbh tyrunt

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DrizztLink
02/23/21 10:21:50 AM
#148:


spikethedevil posted...
Disgusting that towa hasnt been modded
Good news.

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spikethedevil
02/23/21 11:13:00 AM
#149:


Took them long enough lol.

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QueenCarly
02/23/21 11:39:17 AM
#151:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
Is a genocide happening in America?

Yes.

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Materus
02/23/21 12:59:19 PM
#152:


This topic is such a shitshow, this dude seriously advocating for genocide...

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