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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:03:33 PM
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It makes me uncomfortable because I don't have a lot of the things men used to expect, and now that we're decentered, I can't expect those things to come as easily and might have to settle with never having them and the fact that it's not owed to me at all. So it puts more responsibility on me to be successful, but that's as bad as it gets really

I guess this is how white people feel?

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:04:45 PM
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Also it needs to be said that my topics hit all the same notes typical 100 post topic gets, yet you guys never deliver

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:05:37 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Lmfao @ this topic
Dont you have celebrity ass to kiss or are you laughing at the subtle parody I wove into the topic?

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Solid Snake07
02/17/21 3:06:37 PM
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What are these things exactly?

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:07:14 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
What are these things exactly?
White picket fence life

Kids, wife, car, job, house, retirement, christmas bonus, pride

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Dakimakura
02/17/21 3:07:32 PM
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Women will have to kill the spiders now. Good luck.
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Dark_SilverX
02/17/21 3:07:38 PM
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this is what humanity wanted

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COVxy
02/17/21 3:07:49 PM
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Try not to shoot up a church or something.

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Reis
02/17/21 3:09:48 PM
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COVxy posted...
Try not to shoot up a church or something.
lmao
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Solid Snake07
02/17/21 3:09:53 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
White picket fence life

Kids, wife, car, job, house, retirement, christmas bonus, pride


Damn bro, you don't even have a job?!

Doesn't sound like vague societal shifts is your problem

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DravenRainrix
02/17/21 3:10:13 PM
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Women should rule the world. There would be less wars, less aggression, less bravado and bullshit.

Useless douche bag men will lose out sure, but that's a small price to pay.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:10:49 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Damn bro, you don't even have a job?!

Doesn't sound like vague societal shifts is your problem
I can have a job, I just don't have a decent career

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:11:21 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Women should rule the world. There would be less wars, less aggression, less bravado and bullshit.

Useless douche bag men will lose out sure, but that's a small price to pay.
I dont know if women realize they are inheriting a legacy of climate change

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FortuneCookie
02/17/21 3:11:56 PM
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Why should the world be male-centric? As much as I complain about certain things, I think the overall shift toward inclusion is a positive.

Women can be geeks. Women can be action heroes. Women can be respected professionals and not have to be judged by how pretty or fashionable they are or aren't. In that regard, it's a better world than it was 10 to 20 years ago.

Now, I still like my big boobied anime girls and unrepentantly evil female villains. But, on the whole, I like the more level playing field.

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DravenRainrix
02/17/21 3:12:05 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I dont know if women realize they are inheriting a legacy of climate change

They'll fix it.
They'll knit something cute.

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averagejoel
02/17/21 3:12:44 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Women should rule the world. There would be less wars, less aggression, less bravado and bullshit.
this ain't it, chief

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realnifty1
02/17/21 3:13:17 PM
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What does your lack of viable skills have to do with the world being less male-centered?
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DravenRainrix
02/17/21 3:14:29 PM
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averagejoel posted...
this ain't it, chief

Chief?
Wiggum?



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Prismsblade
02/17/21 3:16:05 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Why should the world be male-centric? As much as I complain about certain things, I think the overall shift toward inclusion is a positive.

Women can be geeks. Women can be action heroes. Women can be respected professionals and not have to be judged by how pretty or fashionable they are or aren't. In that regard, it's a better world than it was 10 to 20 years ago.

Now, I still like my big boobied anime girls and unrepentantly evil female villains. But, on the whole, I like the more level playing field.
I dont mind as long as they dont drop the baton as soon as shit hits the fan and keep running.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:19:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
You do realize that men still had to work to get decent careers right?
Sure

I'm just saying that I can't expect those things. Like I shouldn't live my life under the assumption any of those things just happens naturally. I'm not complaining from THIS position, but as a kid I just expected my life to fall into place without a plan

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nfearurspecimn
02/17/21 3:20:05 PM
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maybe wanting those things is unrealistic?

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:22:35 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
maybe wanting those things is unrealistic?
For me it has always been unrealistic, I mean just looking at my life I was a lost cause, but all of the interventions put into place failed me because I just didnt care about the future at all. It worked out for dad after all, so why not me? My mom was a hard worker though.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:23:51 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Those expectations always required work. They were never going to fall into place without a plan.
Yes I realize that now

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Firewerx
02/17/21 3:25:33 PM
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I work for a medium-to-large company and something approaching 70% of our personnel are female. I'm used to being accountable to female line managers and senior staff. But I guess I can see why men who are used to a workplace with a different makeup and culture would not always find that easy to adjust to.

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Graycap
02/17/21 3:26:57 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I guess this is how white people feel?

Imo white people as a class have always had more privilege relative to other races than men as a class have had relative to women. Being white still gives them a ridiculous advantage over being any other race in most situations where race is a factor.

As a dude I feel like I'm expected to go through all of the male hasssles regarding bullshit masculinity, lack of emotional support, always being ready for a fight, being shit on for my height/small frame, having to beg like a hound to ever get a date, etc. only to barely get any of the goodies that the men of the past got.

Like the only benefit of being a dude that I really get use out of is having more porn targeted towards me (I'm minimum wage, so the wage gap is irrelevant, I'm awkward and passive so men getting to be more aggressive/studly/etc. is irrelevant, and so on). It's annoying. Like ok reduce my male privilege, whatever's left of it, but don't still give me all the shit that a guy from the 70s had to deal with despite that.
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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:32:06 PM
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Graycap posted...
Imo white people as a class have always had more privilege relative to other races than men as a class have had relative to women. Being white still gives them a ridiculous advantage over being any other race in most situations where race is a factor.

As a dude I feel like I'm expected to go through all of the male hasssles regarding bullshit masculinity, lack of emotional support, always being ready for a fight, being shit on for my height/small frame, having to beg like a hound to ever get a date, etc. only to barely get any of the goodies that the men of the past got.

Like the only benefit of being a dude that I really get use out of is having more porn targeted towards me (I'm minimum wage, so the wage gap is irrelevant, I'm awkward and passive so men getting to be more aggressive/studly/etc. is irrelevant, and so on). It's annoying. Like ok reduce my male privilege, whatever's left of it, but don't still give me all the shit that a guy from the 70s had to deal with despite that.
I think the idea that you can fall in love in any situation is a male invention that mostly caters to men

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Graycap
02/17/21 3:47:38 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

Those expectations always required work. They were never going to fall into place without a plan.

Obviously men were always expected to work. But the chance and level of reward was different. When the job market focused on men to the exclusion of women (which obviously was ridiculous oppression that had to end), it was easier for men to find work. When the main expectation of a man who wanted to marry was that he have a job to support a family, it was easier for men to find a wife. When man's physical power couldn't easily be emulated by machinery, standard blue collar work paid good wages.

Now that men are less "necessary" relative to women and automation, finding a worthile niche in society is more difficult for them than it was for their fathers.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

I think the idea that you can fall in love in any situation is a male invention that mostly caters to men

I feel like we have much less conditioned knowledge of women's sexuality as a society because it was repressed for so long, and in certain ways still is. Really an unfortunate situation.
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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:53:29 PM
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Graycap posted...
I feel like we have much less conditioned knowledge of women's sexuality as a society because it was repressed for so long, and in certain ways still is. Really an unfortunate situation.
Wow, yeah actually I guess feminity is an incomplete ideal.

I guess the question I'd ask at that point is whether our current state of affairs is because the male dialectic has exhausted itself, or because it is in competition with female dialectic, or female dialectic replaced it already

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LinkFanatic
02/17/21 3:56:50 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
It makes me uncomfortable because I don't have a lot of the things men used to expect

Like what?

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 4:02:24 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
real talk though, they were never owed to anyone at all
Naturally, but I think humans as rights based people are still going to ask what is in it for them

LinkFanatic posted...
Like what?
I don't know, I guess when you scrutinize the idea it falls apart. There is no particular thing, I just had never been of the mind that I wouldnt have those things

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The Trent
02/17/21 4:02:49 PM
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my daughters all ready to style on these dudes

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