Current Events > Why do women like gay men so much?

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Is it just the fact that they can't have them?

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They like the male attention without having to put out.

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The same reason CEmen like all women so much.

So yeah, what you said in the OP.

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A friend of mine once told me its exactly that, The short time I had with my last girlfriend I got hit on 3 times. I'm a guy who never gets hit on. Yet, somehow women just know. Same reason why a bunch of women at my former job used to flirt with me even though they had boyfriends. They like the attention it gets them.

It always pissed me off, if you have a boyfriend, don't talk to me about wishing you had someone to bring you flowers on Valentines day. If your boyfriend isn't bringing you flowers for valentines day, then why the hell are you with him? It's the kind of thing that made me reject dating for as long as I have. I'm still looking, though I have someone to be intimate with(even though they are 3 hours away). We aren't a couple, just fwb.

Gay dudes:

1) generally have better fashion / self care then cis dudes
2) have a better sense of humor .. often dark and sarcastic
3) give ladies a safe-space
4) know good places for food, shopping, etc

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Media generally portrays it as they dress up well and are jacked

they probably tend to be less mysogynistic

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Because we don't threaten women the way straight guys do by trying to "lock them down" so they know they won't get any unwanted sexual requests

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what's not to like

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Because straight (thirsty) men think that if a girl wants to be friends, it means she wants to be in a sexual relationship. Having a gay friend, means you can have a friend without worrying about sex.

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Wrong! They like stereotypical gay men.

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shironinja posted...

Gay dudes:

1) generally have better fashion / self care then cis dudes
2) have a better sense of humor .. often dark and sarcastic
3) give ladies a safe-space
4) know good places for food, shopping, etc

this, except sense of humor. don't think orientation makes you any more or less funny. Sense of humor, like dark, often comes from trauma.

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Arcanine2009 posted...

this, except sense of humor. don't think orientation makes you any more or less funny. Sense of humor, like dark, often comes from trauma.

... none of those things have anything to do with orientation


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shironinja posted...

Gay dudes:

1) generally have better fashion / self care then cis dudes

You think gay dudes all aren't cis?

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I get modded for generalizing other gay men, yet this is fine.

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When does my gay fashion sense kick in?

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shironinja posted...

Gay dudes:

1) generally have better fashion / self care then cis dudes
2) have a better sense of humor .. often dark and sarcastic
3) give ladies a safe-space
4) know good places for food, shopping, etc

Choco posted...

they probably tend to be less mysogynistic

unfortunately these are all generalizations

there are more gay guys who act and look like your typical straight guy, some of them grungy af
lookin like a GQ model is actually a stereotype, most average gay guys don't look much different than average straight guys
and while not all gay men contribute to it, theres a HUGE trend of casual misogyny within the gay male communities
just like theres always been a huge trend of casual misandry within the lesbian communities

never assume gay men are "allies" lol
theyre human beings with their own individual opinions, which means some of them are not going to have positive opinions about women
sometimes that because the most significant women they knew were nasty people themselves...

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Frizzurd posted...

I get modded for generalizing other gay men, yet this is fine.

yeah, i'm frankly surprised that this topic is still here

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Cowthief posted...

They like the male attention without having to put out.

They don't flip everything to be a negative assumption against women, like this.

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The answer to the question is in the OP and post #5 is a stupid generalization.

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DarkProto05 posted...

The answer to the question is in the OP and post #5 is a stupid generalization.

no, you're wrong.

stay living the rest of your life as a bitter, sexist virgin though. hope your parents are proud that their bloodline is ending with you.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

They don't flip everything to be a negative assumption against women, like this.

Wasn't meant to be a slam on women, sorry I'll word it better in the future.

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metralo posted...

no, you're wrong.

stay living the rest of your life as a bitter, sexist virgin though. hope your parents are proud that their bloodline is ending with you.

He literally doesn't see the hypocrisy of claiming something is a stupid generalization while co-signing a stupid generalization.

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metralo posted...

no, you're wrong.

stay living the rest of your life as a bitter, sexist virgin though. hope your parents are proud that their bloodline is ending with you.

Jesus what's with all the hardcore feminists in this topic.

I'm far from misogynistic. You know nothing about me.

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Cowthief posted...

Wasn't meant to be a slam on women, sorry I'll word it better in the future.

It came off pretty accusatory >_>.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

He literally doesn't see the hypocrisy of claiming something is a stupid generalization while co-signing a stupid generalization.

You all make assumptions about cis men than cry foul when it happens to a minority group...

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DarkProto05 posted...

You all make assumptions about cis men than cry foul when it happens to a minority group...

Generalizing all of us now. Maybe, just don't try to accuse others of generalizing when it seems to be your whole deal.

Btw. Men who say "Why do women like gay men so much" usually don't realize that women like straight men as friends too, just not the ones that have a shallow understanding of them. And no, you don't have to cater to them and buy them things to be their friend. You just have to not be a douchebag

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Generalizing all of us now. Maybe, just don't try to accuse others of generalizing when it seems to be your whole deal.

Btw. Men who say "Why do women like gay men so much" usually don't realize that women like straight men as friends too, just not the ones that have a shallow understanding of them. And no, you don't have to cater to them and buy them things to be their friend. You just have to not be a douchebag

It certainly isn't my whole deal, I never said women like gay men. Way to generalize that we all think like that. Seems like it's your whole deal.

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DarkProto05 posted...

It certainly isn't my whole deal, I never said women like gay men. Way to generalize that we all think like that. Seems like it's your whole deal.

I can't even with this guy

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I can't even with this guy

All I'm saying is men generalize women and women generalize men. It's not right but it happens (both ways).

If you think either side is innocent, come out of that nice rock you live under and get some sunshine. Haha.

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

You think gay dudes all aren't cis?

wups sorry Jiek_Fafn. I meant to put "straight cis dudes" but I didn't. My apologies.

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Survivor bias.

Many straight men, upon realizing a particular woman isn't sexually interested, will stop engaging with her, or their advances will offend her and she'll avoid them. Gay men were never after that in the first place so they're more likely to form long term friendships with women.

Most women have probably had/have significantly more straight male friends than gay ones but for one reason or another they just don't hang out as much.

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DarkProto05 posted...

All I'm saying is men generalize women and women generalize men. It's not right but it happens (both ways).

If you think either side is innocent, come out of that nice rock you live under and get some sunshine. Haha.

No idea where I implied that. I guess I gotta make sure I take jabs at women every few sentences in the future to make sure you're comfortable. Don't want people thinking Im a simp because I don't talk negative about women in every post. Honestly, I don't talk negative about women here because you guys cover it so well. It's just dogpiling to join in at that point.

Until someone can actually respond to the core point of my post and not just pick at it for not insulting women, I got nothing else to add

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No idea where I implied that. I guess I gotta make sure I take jabs at women every few sentences in the future to make sure you're comfortable.

You don't have to do that. You can generalize men all you want, its your right. But when it happens the other way don't pretend you're innocent and have never generalized.

Until someone can actually respond to the core point of my post and not just pick at it for not insulting women, I got nothing else to add

Jeez man, for the love of god you don't have to pick on women. And your core point has been addressed a few times, so yeah...

But still feel free add nothing else.

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Last word post

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Why do women like gay men so much?

Quite a few women actually DON'T like gay men for various reasons. There are women that are pro-gay and accepting of homosexual men existing, but there's still a notable amount of bigoted women who are definitely anti-gay when it comes to men (that's right, ONLY the men).

• Some women openly regard gay men as "defective" males (inferior to heterosexual males due to typical disinterest in participating in procreation and performing the provider role for the heteronormative status quo, in other words: considered worthless as males). And no, this perspective is actually NOT exclusive to far leaning conservatives. Some women, regardless of political leaning, still judge every man's worth by what he can do as a utility (similar to how a woman's worth can be superficially graded by her looks and sexuality alone).
• The above is especially apparent in most women not wanting a gay son (accepting and wanting are not the same, heterosexual sons are still deemed the ideal among most mothers). This can lead to some mothers forbidding their sons from interacting with gay folk out of fear of turning gay. Again, not exclusive to far leaning conservatives...sorry if that's a shocker.
• Gay men generally have zero interest in performing chivalry in regards to women because we literally do not benefit from it and its oppressive to ask us to do it. Many of us support gender equality, not favoritism. Chivalry in regards to women is favoritism. Our rejections of said gender roles can also cause similar dissent among hetero male peers. Manipulative women do not like this. Gay men are some of the leading advocates for tearing down gender roles, not promoting them so someone else can exploit them.
• Gay men are also competitors for many female-dominated career paths, including nursing, fashion design, retail, and food service. And while many of these men can be equally qualified, some women still consider these men as "oppressive benefactors of patriarchy" despite being a historically disadvantaged male minority group even in the western world.
• Some women who get upset the moment a man refuses a request can be just as vindictive towards a gay guy saying nope, with equal penalty. While straight men are more likely to say yes to a pretty female face, that magic trick does not work on gay men.
• Paranoid women can still see gay men as threats to heterosexual relationships and marriage. Some crazy witches literally still think we're out to steal straight men from them. Never mind that 99.9% of straight men naturally stink at homosexuality and are the worst candidates to choose for it.
• Some women only want a "gay male bestie" for 1) an accessory similar to what's glorified on TV, 2) seeking an "exotic" relationship like dating someone of a different race just to say they did it, or 3) fishing for online brownie points by seeming more accepting of gay communities (which, unfortunately, a lot of us gays are still hopeless suckers for when it comes to celebrities and politicians).

Keep in mind, I am not implying all women have these toxic behaviorisms. In my experience as a gay man a good portion of women abstain from the list above and understand why it's inherently anti-gay behavior. I have known great women at home, at work, in life. It's why I've been able to comfortably socialize with women for years. However, I have had and witnessed more than a few experiences that prove being homophobic is not a gendered phenomena and some hateful fringe women actively propagate it, enough to where I would never presume a woman is accepting of gay male culture. Any gay man who was abused and thrown out by his bigoted mother can understand why.

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Ivany2008 posted...

If your boyfriend isn't bringing you flowers for valentines day, then why the hell are you with him?

Does this really bother you?

I've never given anybody anything for valentines day. 10 year anniversary today. I thought that it wasn't that important to most people?

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They literally feel physically safer around them.

Which is less an indictment of women, and more an indictment of straight men.

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Because they don't feel threatened by them.

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IloveJesus posted...

Does this really bother you?

I've never given anybody anything for valentines day. 10 year anniversary today. I thought that it wasn't that important to most people?

Then your probably in the minority on that. I know that if my father didn't buy my mother something for their anniversary she'd skin him alive. Everyone I know at the very least buys their significant others flowers and takes them to dinner.

OpenlyGator posted...

Quite a few women actually DON'T like gay men for various reasons. There are women that are pro-gay and accepting of homosexual men existing, but there's still a notable amount of bigoted women who are definitely anti-gay when it comes to men (that's right, ONLY the men).

* Some women openly regard gay men as "defective" males (inferior to heterosexual males due to typical disinterest in participating in procreation and performing the provider role for the heteronormative status quo, in other words: considered worthless as males). And no, this perspective is actually NOT exclusive to far leaning conservatives. Some women, regardless of political leaning, still judge every man's worth by what he can do as a utility (similar to how a woman's worth can be superficially graded by her looks and sexuality alone).
* The above is especially apparent in most women not wanting a gay son (accepting and wanting are not the same, heterosexual sons are still deemed the ideal among most mothers). This can lead to some mothers forbidding their sons from interacting with gay folk out of fear of turning gay. Again, not exclusive to far leaning conservatives...sorry if that's a shocker.
* Gay men generally have zero interest in performing chivalry in regards to women because we literally do not benefit from it and its oppressive to ask us to do it. Many of us support gender equality, not favoritism. Chivalry in regards to women is favoritism. Our rejections of said gender roles can also cause similar dissent among hetero male peers. Manipulative women do not like this. Gay men are some of the leading advocates for tearing down gender roles, not promoting them so someone else can exploit them.
* Gay men are also competitors for many female-dominated career paths, including nursing, fashion design, retail, and food service. And while many of these men can be equally qualified, some women still consider these men as "oppressive benefactors of patriarchy" despite being a historically disadvantaged male minority group even in the western world.
* Some women who get upset the moment a man refuses a request can be just as vindictive towards a gay guy saying nope, with equal penalty. While straight men are more likely to say yes to a pretty female face, that magic trick does not work on gay men.
* Paranoid women can still see gay men as threats to heterosexual relationships and marriage. Some crazy witches literally still think we're out to steal straight men from them. Never mind that 99.9% of straight men naturally stink at homosexuality and are the worst candidates to choose for it.
* Some women only want a "gay male bestie" for 1) an accessory similar to what's glorified on TV, 2) seeking an "exotic" relationship like dating someone of a different race just to say they did it, or 3) fishing for online brownie points by seeming more accepting of gay communities (which, unfortunately, a lot of us gays are still hopeless suckers for when it comes to celebrities and politicians).
Keep in mind, I am not implying all women have these toxic behaviorisms. In my experience as a gay man a good portion of women abstain from the list above and understand why it's inherently anti-gay behavior. I have known great women at home, at work, in life. It's why I've been able to comfortably socialize with women for years. However, I have had and witnessed more than a few experiences that prove being homophobic is not a gendered phenomena and some hateful fringe women actively propagate it, enough to where I would never presume a woman is accepting of gay male culture. Any gay man who was abused and thrown out by his bigoted mother can understand why.

Great post. Surprisingly you didnt get shit for it from certain people.

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Its actually a really overplayed stereotype in popular culture. Straight women can say completely bigoted shit against gay guys and nobody bats an eye in general. I dont know why but it seems like literally just gay guys are seen as gay in common thought.

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