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Damn_Underscore
01/31/21 1:26:28 PM
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Visual Novels get hate sometimes because "they aren't really games", but they also aren't really books.

They are their own genre. Like a combination of video games and books. And there should be more of them tbh

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Itachi157
01/31/21 1:27:46 PM
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There are already enough of them that you probably couldn't read them all in your lifetime. You just gotta learn Japanese.
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Squall28
01/31/21 1:29:26 PM
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It seems like all the famous ones are softcore hentai.

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FL81
01/31/21 1:30:52 PM
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Squall28 posted...
It seems like all the famous ones are softcore hentai.
hey now, there's also hardcore hentai

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Grubhub
01/31/21 1:45:58 PM
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Ace Attorney is about the only one I like

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Damn_Underscore
01/31/21 2:03:03 PM
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Conflict posted...
Not a visual novel

Yes it is. What else would you call it?

Visual novel doesn't mean zero gameplay.


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EmbraceOfDeath
01/31/21 2:05:30 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Yes it is. What else would you call it?

Visual novel doesn't mean zero gameplay.
No it isn't. It's a point and click adventure game. Having a visual novel like interface doesn't make something a visual novel.

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Trumble
01/31/21 2:06:54 PM
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Yes, and I'd go a step further and say that interactive movie "games" (eg. Detroit: Become Human) also fall into this genre.

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Cookie Bag
01/31/21 2:07:36 PM
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Damn_Underscore
01/31/21 2:07:56 PM
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The investigation scenes sure but the main part of the games is visual novel for sure.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/21 2:08:52 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
Va-11 Hall-A is an amazing one
reminds me, i need to play/buy this. not sure if it will run on my laptop, muv luv does

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Cookie Bag
01/31/21 3:03:28 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
reminds me, i need to play/buy this. not sure if it will run on my laptop, muv luv does
it def should, it's not PC intensive at all.

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Ubergeneral3
01/31/21 3:06:26 PM
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Vns tend to be low specs and can run on nearly anything.

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smoke_break
01/31/21 3:15:17 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Yes it is. What else would you call it?

Visual novel doesn't mean zero gameplay.
Yeah, it's both an adventure game and a visual novel. This site even categorizes it as such.

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Rika_Furude
01/31/21 3:17:43 PM
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They are a medium

im not sure if pure VNs (steins;gate, rewrite) etc should be held separate from mixed VNs (Phoenix write, 999, danganronpa) that are mostly VNs with a bit of gameplay

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SSJKirby
01/31/21 3:18:36 PM
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They're not a genre, they're a medium.

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gunplagirl
01/31/21 3:20:24 PM
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*laughs* I have half a dozen that I imported with a list of about 3 dozen just for the vita and ps4 that I still want to get.

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Scarecrow17
01/31/21 3:34:07 PM
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Don't mind me. Just shilling for The House in Fata Morgana. Excellent VN. Play it.

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Caroniver
01/31/21 3:38:22 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
They are their own genre. Like a combination of video games and books.
That's not a genre, that's a medium.

Ace Attorney is a Visual Novel, by the way.

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FL81
01/31/21 6:56:37 PM
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Conflict posted...
You can't even 'lose' in an actual VN.
he doesn't know about bad endings

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Rika_Furude
01/31/21 8:29:27 PM
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FL81 posted...
he doesn't know about bad endings
Depending on the VN you read, sometimes the bad endings are what you want

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FL81
01/31/21 9:03:55 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Depending on the VN you read, sometimes the bad endings are what you want
School Days is a modern masterpiece

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Tyranthraxus
01/31/21 9:07:58 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Yes it is. What else would you call it?

Visual novel doesn't mean zero gameplay.

Ace Attorney is a mix of Adventure & Hidden Object. I agree that visual novels don't mean zero gameplay but Ace Attorney aint it.

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DeadBankerDream
02/03/21 5:34:21 AM
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Video games aren't a genre, they're a medium.
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legendarylemur
02/03/21 5:54:41 AM
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Ultimately VNs are fundamentally different from books and games. VNs can have game elements like Ace Attorney or any puzzle solvers like the Zero Escape series or a choose your adventure type story like Root Double, but a VN without game elements are still considered VNs. So I like to look at it as a genre that CAN be games but sometimes just VN, which means I'd agree with TC.

Meanwhile they're different from a standard novel because there's actually a significantly larger necessity for plot and dialogue in VNs. Narrations and expositions are stripped to the minimum and often simply thoughts of the perspective character. Instead VNs opt to provide the setting through visuals and other animations. So VNs end up being almost entirely dialogue, whereas in a book, the dialogue wouldn't necessarily take center stage. This results in VNs having write far more story progression than a typical story, but it also lets VNs concoct excessively complex plots with many different outcomes and intertwining elements.

So yeah, fundamental differences

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Tom Clark
02/03/21 5:57:20 AM
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Conflict posted...
Play Coffee Talk

Heavily fantasy-based cast of characters but no hentai there

I enjoyed Coffee Talk quite a bit.

But the best bit for me was the challenge mode thing tbh, where it plays more like a game. Still, the VN bit was surprisingly enjoyable, I might try a few more.

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SkittyOnWailord
02/03/21 6:18:47 AM
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Oh, a discussion about visual novels? *Drops link*

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/741767-dustmania-grotesque-kaitai-sounyuu-shinsho

>_>

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Pus_N_Pecans
02/03/21 8:59:49 AM
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I started Death Mark a couple days ago, and while I like it so far, I discovered that it apparently has some pretty overt, wildly out of place, fetish fueled fanservice in it. Its very jarring.

Ill keep playing though. The art and especially the music are both fantastic.
https://youtu.be/TZ-DKIdJ7kA

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JE19426
02/03/21 9:09:43 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Yes it is. It's classified as a visual novel on every official site.

Whoah! Capcom owns Wikipedia, Gamefaqs, Metacritic, and TV Tropes?!?! How come nobody told me this?
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Scarecrow17
02/04/21 2:38:20 PM
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ArmieBuff posted...
Apparently this is an LGBT-related video game. That's awesome. It's definitely a bit easier to explore those themes in VNs.

Yeah, there is LGBT representation but its massive spoilers to go into any more detail. The themes tackled by this VN are explored really well honestly. Took me by surprise.

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