Current Events > Ex KGB spy says Russia cultivated Trump as an asset for 40 years.

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Cheater87
01/29/21 7:04:10 AM
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UnfairRepresent
01/29/21 7:06:18 AM
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Well no shit.

How often did he go to Russia or make deals with Russia during that time?

I don't even think conservatives denied that Russia wanted Trump to be their agent. They just deny that they succeeded.

Because they're dumb.

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Machete
01/29/21 7:19:05 AM
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They wanted a useful idiot. They got a somewhat useful complete fucking moron.
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CADE FOSTER
01/29/21 7:27:25 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well no shit.

How often did he go to Russia or make deals with Russia during that time?

I don't even think conservatives denied that Russia wanted Trump to be their agent. They just deny that they succeeded.

Because they're dumb.

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KnightofShikari
01/29/21 7:28:35 AM
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eston
01/29/21 7:59:44 AM
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kg88222
01/29/21 8:00:46 AM
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This doesn't surprise me. Billions of dollars will buy all sorts of corruption. Bad people too.
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SPE
01/29/21 8:11:08 AM
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Machete posted...
They wanted a useful idiot. They got a somewhat useful complete fucking moron.


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harley2280
01/29/21 8:13:50 AM
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gunplagirl
01/29/21 8:34:33 AM
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Remember that meeting where Trump kicked everyone out besides Putin and himself?

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Ruvan22
01/29/21 8:39:09 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Remember that meeting where Trump kicked everyone out besides Putin and himself?
And the one where Trump said "Putin said they didn't do it (hacking), I don't see any reason why he would"
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Alucard188
01/29/21 8:42:41 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh

Indeed. This seems more like more motherland show boating than anything else.

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LightHawKnight
01/29/21 8:43:43 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Remember that meeting where Trump kicked everyone out besides Putin and himself?

Didnt he also destroy the transcripts and records of it?

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gunplagirl
01/29/21 8:50:35 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Didnt he also destroy the transcripts and records of it?
He forbid any from being made and the like, single person besides them present didn't have his game listed and therefore can't really be subpoenaed without getting someone to cough up the information.

Ruvan22 posted...
And the one where Trump said "Putin said they didn't do it (hacking), I don't see any reason why he would"
Yep. It's been so obvious that people joked about it in 2016.

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ultimate reaver
01/29/21 8:54:52 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh

5 years seems like a stretch, unless their goal was to groom an asset which was completely ineffective in accomplishing anything except what american neocons want in which case that was a large waste of time

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BLAKUboy
01/29/21 9:04:10 AM
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YellowSUV
01/29/21 9:17:28 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh

Was going to say this. I think in the early 1980s Western banks were still lending Trump money so how could the Soviet Union gain leverage over him then?

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harley2280
01/29/21 10:10:08 AM
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Revnir posted...
we have a political party literally representing half the senate and most of the state legislatures and governorships that is more loyal to a hostile foreign power than to their own country.

Why do you think they love that confederate flag so much?
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Machete
01/29/21 10:14:17 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Remember that meeting where Trump kicked everyone out besides Putin and himself?


I think a lot of state secrets spilled out of donald's mouth and a lot of putin's special white russians spilled into it.
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ghettoraider81
01/29/21 10:15:33 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh


Not at all. The 80s was the height of the Cold War and Trump was a big name. He was a scummy businessman then and it would have been easy to influence him just by making deals with him.

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Bio1590
01/29/21 10:51:56 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...


5 years seems like a stretch, unless their goal was to groom an asset which was completely ineffective in accomplishing anything except what american neocons want in which case that was a large waste of time

They didn't start this with the ultimate goal of him becoming President or anything.

Trump being a "Russian asset" is as simple as them being able to use him and his real estate for money laundering and citizenship loopholes, which they have done extensively.
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Gwynevere
01/29/21 11:05:05 AM
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So in short, Russia was able to groom an asset for decades and get 70+ million Americans to vote for him

Incredible

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NinjaWarrior455
01/29/21 11:06:17 AM
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They definitely have a bunch of dirt on him

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harley2280
01/29/21 11:07:56 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
So in short, Russia was able to groom an asset for decades and get 70+ million Americans to vote for him

Incredible

Paying drives of people to post on social media platforms all day to push your agenda helps tremendously.
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ZevLoveDOOM
01/29/21 11:11:45 AM
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Trump's rump must be sore from having puppet master Putin shoving his hand up there so many times...
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Prismsblade
01/29/21 11:12:04 AM
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I Dont believe this even for a second but even if they did. It didnt accomplich much in the long run so what a wasts.

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brestugo
01/29/21 11:12:37 AM
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Machete posted...
They wanted a useful idiot. They got a somewhat useful complete fucking moron.
+1

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Pogo_Marimo
01/29/21 11:16:24 AM
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As much as I despise Trump, you have to realize that this statement is just as beneficial for the KGB if it's a bald-faced lie or the truth. It's inherently stupid to take this statement at any sort of value, because it's being done strictly to undermine America unity either way.

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BLAKUboy
01/29/21 11:16:40 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
I Dont believe this even for a second but even if they did. It didnt accomplich much in the long run so what a wasts.
He divided America so much there are people seriously calling for a second civil war. All while easing sanctions on them and distancing us from our allies making everyone but them weaker.
They got everything they wanted out of him and more.

And that's just from the stuff we know.

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onedarksoul
01/29/21 11:17:52 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh
Obviously. This guy is laughing at Americans who believe this.

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BeyondWalls
01/29/21 11:23:07 AM
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eston posted...
40 years seems like a stretch tbqh
Yeah. Im calling bullshit on this. I think this guy knows Trumps name sells books.

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monkmith
01/29/21 11:25:37 AM
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Machete posted...
They wanted a useful idiot. They got a somewhat useful complete fucking moron.
seems more then somewhat useful. trump systematically destroyed american influence abroad, to the huge benefit of russia and china.

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onedarksoul
01/29/21 11:25:52 AM
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onedarksoul posted...
Obviously. This guy is laughing at Americans who believe this.
The funny thing is, 90% of posters in this topic believed it. oh America!

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Gwynevere
01/29/21 11:39:35 AM
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harley2280 posted...
Paying drives of people to post on social media platforms all day to push your agenda helps tremendously.
That's true too. Swaying the public consciousness in such a massive way is both fascinating and frankly terrifying

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Irony
01/29/21 11:41:46 AM
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They forgot to pick him down the line and he rotted on the vine

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onedarksoul
01/29/21 11:44:16 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
So I wonder if anything will actually come of this.
Generally, nothing comes out of fake news.

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Prismsblade
01/29/21 11:49:26 AM
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BLAKUboy posted...
He divided America so much there are people seriously calling for a second civil war. All while easing sanctions on them and distancing us from our allies making everyone but them weaker.
They got everything they wanted out of him and more.

And that's just from the stuff we know.
Most Americans have the memory of a potatoe and wont remember much of this years from now. And how many Amercians keep tabs on foreign relations?

Hell if not for the virus this would have been a wholly uneventful 4 years for most and trump may actually have won re-election.

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Ruvan22
01/29/21 12:11:13 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
I Dont believe this even for a second but even if they did. It didnt accomplich much in the long run so what a wasts.
You don't think the current state of the USA is what Russia/ Putin wants? Fractured, weaker international alliances, internal mistrust of the government etc?
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Ruvan22
01/29/21 12:13:37 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
Generally, nothing comes out of fake news.
Idk about that, Fox and Trump have got a lot to come out from fake news
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Machete
01/29/21 12:15:06 PM
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onedarksoul posted...

Generally, nothing comes out of fake news.


Which is why every post you make is worthless
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SPE
01/29/21 12:52:02 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I don't know how I've never seen this version of surprised pikachu, but I'm stealing it.

hahaha

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Prismsblade
01/29/21 1:12:52 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
You don't think the current state of the USA is what Russia/ Putin wants? Fractured, weaker international alliances, internal mistrust of the government etc?
Yea, but....now what? If they dont capitalize on it we're just going to recover the same we've always had.

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Ruvan22
01/29/21 1:18:54 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Yea, but....now what? If they dont capitalize on it we're just going to recover the same we've always had.
Four to ten years of us recovering is still a solid gain for them, especially when you consider how cheap everything was (troll farms with limited human assets). They'd definitely like the USA to be permanently depowered but they are enjoying the vacuum right now and expanding influence easier
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