Current Events > Playing Virtue's Last Reward (999 sequel) on Vita

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There's a lot more routes this time, it all seems rather daunting. I think I might have to use a guide for this one, anyone know a good one?
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Wh... what the... is that Clover? Why did they dress her in a skimpy outfit? Why does she look like a flintstones character. More importantly why is she in the nonary game again the hell. What, does this make it her 2nd or 3rd time or something? She can't catch a break!

And is that... Alice? The somehow perfectly preserved mummy from the ending of the first game?

Lol that robot though. They're going for ridiculous right off the bat. Why wouldn't he just attempt to take his mask/helmet off, and how come no one asked him to do that if they distrust him so much.
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Just letting you know, none of the routes are optional, you actually have to see every ending to get the true ending. Most routes won't be completable when you first attempt them, and I strongly recommend against using a guide for efficiency because that's (in my opinion) not how this game was meant to be experienced.
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Colors instead of numbers huh? That seems... oddly more confusing somehow. Especially since they're going with the rgb definition of primary colors and not the pre-k version.
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Omg what... so that's how the numbers work in this game? Ally or Betray? It's only one door that has 9 and we have to get enough points to be 9?

This sucks, I don't want to betray anyone!

I just tried it to see if I would get my first bad ending and the game continued on. Worse, the heartbreak in Luna's voice almost made me restart the game, I felt so bad :(


Now getting all the endings and scenarios seems even more daunting than I previously thought.
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Kircheis posted...

Just letting you know, none of the routes are optional, you actually have to see every ending to get the true ending. Most routes won't be completable when you first attempt them, and I strongly recommend against using a guide for efficiency because that's (in my opinion) not how this game was meant to be experienced.

To get to the first ending, whatever it may be, I'm doing it blind. Then with each successive attempt with me changing things like which route to take and when to betray, I'll see if that unlocks more routes. If I still didn't get on a new path though I'll just look it up to see if there's something I need to do besides path changes or ally betrayals.
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Don't go down the cyan route first, just a heads up.

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Sigma reminds me of myself a lot >_>

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I can't remember which route I took but yeah Alice is dead and after the initial shock I'm like nah, it can't possibly be canon it's one of the bad endings, she's faking it like what happened in 999 right... right?

Betraying seems like a dick move but hold on... if one person gets 9, can't they just open the door with everyone present, and everyone quickly rushes out the door as soon as it opens, within the 9 seconds? As long as everyone has at least 1 BP it doesn't matter because they'll be free anyway, so it doesn't matter who gets 9 first right, they can just open the door and have everyone bumrush the exit?
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saspa posted...

if one person gets 9, can't they just open the door with everyone present, and everyone quickly rushes out the door as soon as it opens, within the 9 seconds? As long as everyone has at least 1 BP it doesn't matter because they'll be free anyway, so it doesn't matter who gets 9 first right, they can just open the door and have everyone bumrush the exit?

if you try to exit through a door you're not entitled to, you die, such as the number 9 door without 9 BP

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*people have been brutally murdered*

*characters still act playful and make jokes in escape rooms like nothing's happened*
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So if I ally with old man Tenmyoji, he betrays me.

But if I betray him, he chooses ally? What?

Make up your damn mind.
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saspa posted...

*characters still act playful and make jokes in escape rooms like nothing's happened*

It's actually not uncommon to try to force levity into an incredibly stressful situation to make it approximate normal.

saspa posted...

So if

But if

How dare you.


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What the hell at Alice continually being murdered. Did we rescue her in 999 only for her to end up getting killed just like that.

I wanna play 999 again just to refresh myself what happened at the end there. I remember feeling like it ended right when I wanted to know more. And then VLR starts in a completely different scenario.
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saspa posted...

I wanna play 999 again just to refresh myself what happened at the end there.

Oh I can fill that in. *999 spoilers*

There's a lot of mention throughout the game about ALL-ICE, the mummy that was frozen into Ice-9 and was stored on the Titanic, which then disappeared, and there's supposition that she might have actually still been alive.

Then at the very end of the game, after the credits roll, you see the following (more 999 SPOILERS):

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ninehourspersonsdoors/images/7/75/True_end_14.png

And that's it. That's all the information you're given in 999.

I can also answer any other questions about 999 that don't necessarily involve that person.

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radical-6 vs ice-9 which do you prefer
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saspa posted...

radical-6 vs ice-9 which do you prefer

Ice-9 because it's three more.

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It's way too eerie to play this during an actual pandemic, had no idea the game was gonna have that angle.
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lol try playing Death Stranding. >_>

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Oh my god. Phi is Santa in drag!

That's the twist isn't it?
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Well either that or she's a robot like those gaulem terminators and is highly sophisticated
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What's your flowchart looking like?

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Oh you met G-OLM? He's a mate, innit he?

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Have you been getting the gold files? You get a bonus ending if you get all of them.
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Kircheis posted...

Have you been getting the gold files? You get a bonus ending if you get all of them.

And might I add, don't worry if you didn't get them your first time through. You can go back to them at any time via the flowchart.

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There's a spoiler free flow chart to get every ending in the vita/3ds guides section that can help not repeating routes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/vita/641335-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward/map/8246-flowchart

Dammit!

There's text I miss depending on when I betray or ally with someone in a save file!

If I chose to ally with Alice (who, by the way, freaking betrayed me the first time) and then save over my file, then go back to that same point using the flowchart and choose betray, she chooses ally for some reason, and Sigma already knows of the alternate reality where she chose betray and is similarly shocked at her choice.

But if I go back to a different save file, and choose betray for my first option, I get different dialogue from Alice and Sigma doesn't recall any alternate reality since it didn't happen yet.

Just something I was experimenting with a couple minutes ago. That means I could potentially miss out on dialogue throughout the game?
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Geez guys you don't have to just shower him with info.

Honestly VLR in particular isn't that difficult to poke your way through on your own. The flowchart makes it obvious what you've completed and what you haven't.

saspa posted...

Just something I was experimenting with a couple minutes ago. That means I could potentially miss out on dialogue throughout the game?

Don't worry too much about it. That instance doesn't happen too many times.

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This was a great game. In terms of presentation and interface I feel it improved over 999 but overall I'd say I like 999's plot a little more.

I'll look at those walkthroughs if I get stuck. So far I've got a lot of different options and routes to go through, and definitely enjoying the game more than the first time I cracked it open. I think what happened is I got escape room fatigue from 999 and needed a couple of months before tackling VLR.
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saspa posted...

I think what happened is I got escape room fatigue from 999 and needed a couple of months before tackling VLR.

This is why I haven't started VLR yet

Also, I won't visit this topic again in case of spoilers >_>
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Does Luna look like a Kingdom Hearts 1 character model to anyone else? I don't know what it is but every time I look at her she reminds me of Kingdom Hearts character I don't know why that is.
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This is so stupid if everyone just chose ally they'd be out of the place in just 3 rounds, no worse for wear.

I wonder if they're gonna pull a 999 and have the sweet and gentle innocent Luna actually be Zero the whole time

So far it seems they're playing it straight with Dio, the asshole actually is a bad guy and an asshole and a murderer.
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saspa posted...

This is so stupid if everyone just chose ally they'd be out of the place in just 3 rounds, no worse for wear.

I think what the game is telling you with this is that it's easy for a passive observer from outside to say "it'd be easy", but when you stack on the following:

• Very few people know each other
• There's a legitimate threat to the players' lives
• There's no guarantee that the game will allow enough rounds for everyone to escape. Zero III was specifically cagey about that.

It's not hard for a desperate person to come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is both protect themselves from losing points and attempt to get out as quickly as possible.

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Wanna know how far along TC is.

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Is it wrong to cheat on a puzzle if it's too tedious to solve? I already know I'm supposed to make a parallelogram using the small triangles and squares but I can't imagine anything more tedious than geometry, especially with the cumbersome controls making it a pain to either rotate a piece or move it.
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So Sigma is just a buff Junpei? I got so attached to the first set of characters, I can't just up and and forge a connection with these new set of characters.
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CyricZ posted...

I think what the game is telling you with this is that it's easy for a passive observer from outside to say "it'd be easy", but when you stack on the following:
* Very few people know each other
* There's a legitimate threat to the players' lives
* There's no guarantee that the game will allow enough rounds for everyone to escape. Zero III was specifically cagey about that.
It's not hard for a desperate person to come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is both protect themselves from losing points and attempt to get out as quickly as possible.

Agreed...

The opposite extreme is everyone constantly voting "betray" and nothing going anywhere and they all die from starvation.

The one that pissed me off the most for lying so far is K. I usually like his amicable personality but I'd actually feel less rage if he acted an asshole like Dio.
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saspa posted...

So Sigma is just a buff Junpei?

They both got a bit of the "anime protagonist" syndrome going on, but they are ultimately distinct characters.

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saspa posted...

So Sigma is just a buff Junpei? I got so attached to the first set of characters, I can't just up and and forge a connection with these new set of characters.

Sigma has a bad case of horny

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saspa posted...

Is it wrong to cheat on a puzzle if it's too tedious to solve?

nah not really imo, just don't cheat on the story based puzzles

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On the other hand I've solved more puzzles by guessing than I was expecting to, it's seriously hilarious. The puzzle with the "hydroponic" fluid or whatever with 5 different colors and levers with 80, 40, 40: I still have literally no idea how to solve it. I literally just moved some levers around at random and pushed the button, got it on the 11th try and saved immediately.

I like thinking that I'm genre savvy enough to know which way a puzzle is supposed to go. The garden is another one I solved before I was "supposed" to by clicking the correct order of buttons.

But otherwise yeah I've encountered what I feel is some real bullshit. Like the treatment center puzzle with the h/m "board game" and a couple others. Or when I miss an object in a muddy textured area because despite the fact that I clicked on that specific area, the game didn't register the click so I miss an important part to solve the puzzle. I usually catch it but missed it in the library which annoyed the crap out of me.
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Hoho, they recycled a puzzle from the first game! Cylinder and ink paper. Good times.
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CyricZ posted...

They both got a bit of the "anime protagonist" syndrome going on, but they are ultimately distinct characters.

In the 999 port on vita junpei is voiced. But Sigma isn't voiced in VLR? Just wondering (In general I've felt that VLR's va sounds a lot better than 999)
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Garioshi posted...

Sigma has a bad case of horny

I... have been noticing that in recent routes. Could be all the testosterone from his buffness lol
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So much imagery of lions... and the ninth lion ate the sun. And in 999, Ace looked kind of like a lion according to Junpei. So it must all be connected! I just need to find out how.
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saspa posted...

and the ninth lion ate the sun

nineth

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Nnnnooo... K is ? Immediately closed the game, this is too much. I should have suspected they'd pull this. Not ready for this revelation so I'm currently continuing another route before going back.

I only went that route to confirm whether green question mark routes mean I've found a solution to that previously black question mark route that ends with "To Be Continued" so I wasn't ready for such a revelation.

Damn. And here I was thinking he was Junpei or something. I keep trying to guess the twists like maybe Tenmyouji is Junpei from the future, and the old lady was Akane, I dunno. Or that Sigma was the golem robot masquerading as a human this entire time, just any of the classic twists of stories.
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saspa posted...

Nnnnooo... K is ? Immediately closed the game, this is too much. I should have suspected they'd pull this. Not ready for this revelation so I'm currently continuing another route before going back.

it's only just begun, boy you're in for a ride

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