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spikethedevil
01/23/21 4:28:22 PM
#103:


MutantJohn posted...
Huh, what makes a church explicitly anti-LGBT? Do they have like a giant sign out in front saying, "You know who you are. You can't come in here."?


Apparently there website calls for death to LGBT people though the guy that mentioned that before got modded for some reason.


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MutantJohn
01/23/21 4:29:55 PM
#104:


Well, tbf, churches are kind of special/exempt buildings.

They're not really a business so they're free to preach whatever they want.

Even though it's atrocious, it's unfortunate they got bombed. All it really does now is reinforce their negative preconceptions of people.

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FlameTurtle
01/23/21 4:32:14 PM
#105:


yemmy posted...
No, hate speech had jack shit to do with Hitler taking power
Hard to believe that an actual human being typed this

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IMNOTRAGED
01/23/21 4:39:11 PM
#106:


yemmy posted...
No, hate speech had jack shit to do with Hitler taking power

And I'm supposed to be the dumb one here

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CyricZ
01/23/21 4:40:14 PM
#107:


Yes much like hate speech had nothing to do with Trump taking power. It was all "economic anxiety" you see.

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GameGearFear
01/23/21 4:41:39 PM
#108:


ChrisTaka posted...
Doesn't matter, wishing harm is wishing harm.

It doesn't matter if someone says, "I want to kill you" and someone else says, "I hope you die" they still want the same end result
Yeah, but sometimes things are brushed aside depending on certain situations. Like people saying they hope trump would have died aren't really met with confrontation because a lot of people dislike him and probably secretly wanted him to die.

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yemmy
01/23/21 4:48:14 PM
#110:


IMNOTRAGED posted...
And I'm supposed to be the dumb one here

All the hate speech in the world couldn't help Hitler without WW1 and his party's willingness to use violence. They woulda never trumped the communists.

This is the difference in some church and nazi germany

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Bishop9800
01/23/21 4:55:33 PM
#111:


yemmy posted...
No, hate speech had jack shit to do with Hitler taking power


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ScazarMeltex
01/23/21 5:05:38 PM
#112:


MutantJohn posted...
Well, tbf, churches are kind of special/exempt buildings.

They're not really a business so they're free to preach whatever they want.

Even though it's atrocious, it's unfortunate they got bombed. All it really does now is reinforce their negative preconceptions of people.
They weren't going to change those opinions anyway.

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Dabrikishaw15
01/23/21 5:15:21 PM
#113:


It's a building that only punched down. Doesn't matter to me if it got blown up.

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Socrawheeze
01/23/21 5:15:23 PM
#114:


yemmy posted...
Oh ok so you have nothing to say other than flaming me lol

Go smoke a Newport maybe you'll get your shit together. Blocked
Newports are trash

Btw he followed me not blocked me. Why do ppl follow ppl they hate? To mark them or what
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Tyranthraxus
01/23/21 5:34:40 PM
#115:


yemmy posted...
All the hate speech in the world couldn't help Hitler without WW1 and his party's willingness to use violence. They woulda never trumped the communists.

This is the difference in some church and nazi germany

"The church" has killed so many fucking people throughout history they make Hitler blush

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yutterh
01/23/21 10:11:12 PM
#116:


RedJackson posted...
Nah, I really care about everyone - I dont have much sympathy for people who take a religion that I want to connect to and repurpose it to have disgusting views because I feel compelled as a religious person myself to do my part from the inside out to correct that

but apart from that I also dont dig violence against others, much less bombings that can affect innocent bystanders

I dont have to code switch to save hubris, like, I actually care about this world lol

We are on the exact same wave length, nice.

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harley2280
01/23/21 10:12:35 PM
#117:


yemmy posted...
IMNOTRAGED posted...
Yes, hate speech pretty much always plays a major role in the rise of figures like Hitler even on a smaller scale; this sort of public sentiment left unchecked commonly results in violence targeted at specific groups.

No, hate speech had jack shit to do with Hitler taking power

So you don't classify anti-semitism as hate speech? That says a lot about you.
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g0ldie
01/23/21 10:17:46 PM
#118:


it's weird how people don't wanna acknowledge dehumanization (which hate speech is a part of) as the beginning of a process that allows people inflict all types of evils on each other

and one of the things Hitler did that gained him support was using Jewish people, amongst others, as scapegoats for much of what was wrong in Germany

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UnfairRepresent
01/24/21 3:36:27 AM
#119:


g0ldie posted...
it's weird how people don't wanna acknowledge dehumanization (which hate speech is a part of) as the beginning of a process that allows people inflict all types of evils on each other

and one of the things Hitler did that gained him support was using Jewish people, amongst others, as scapegoats for much of what was wrong in Germany
This is very true although why you Godwin'd to Hitler and not the topical American example of Trump is odd.

But I don't get how this justifies blowing up buildings.

You think the Nazis or Trump which never had majority support from the population in their rise to power would have been curbed if people blew up buildings?

You think if someone blew up on of Trump's hotels or golf courses he wouldn't have become president?
If someone blew up a National Socialism recruitment base they would have gone "Oh well hanz, guess zis is eet. Let's go become nuns instead ja?"

Pointing out that bigots are stupid and evil doesn't seem like a justification for going around blowing up buildings to me.

Reminds me of a kid throwing a brick through a window and then going "But Matt is a poopface!"

Even if Matt is a poopface, you don't throw bricks through windows. You were raised better than that.

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UnholyMudcrab
01/24/21 3:43:13 AM
#120:


I'm damn near positive that this was actually done by a member of the church. The real question is whether it was a false flag, or if someone was making or storing a bomb there and it went off on its own. The graffiti would point toward false flag.
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UnfairRepresent
01/24/21 3:44:56 AM
#121:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm damn near positive that this was actually done by a member of the church. The real question is whether it was a false flag, or if someone was making or storing a bomb there and it went off on its own. The graffiti would point toward false flag.
And Antifa started the Capitol Riots right?

Don't forget Occam's razor


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YourDrunkFather
01/24/21 4:01:54 AM
#122:


Just when I start to think some of yall cant sink any lower

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g0ldie
01/24/21 10:09:12 AM
#123:


UnfairRepresent posted...
This is very true although why you Godwin'd to Hitler and not the topical American example of Trump is odd.

But I don't get how this justifies blowing up buildings.

You think the Nazis or Trump which never had majority support from the population in their rise to power would have been curbed if people blew up buildings?

You think if someone blew up on of Trump's hotels or golf courses he wouldn't have become president?
If someone blew up a National Socialism recruitment base they would have gone "Oh well hanz, guess zis is eet. Let's go become nuns instead ja?"

Pointing out that bigots are stupid and evil doesn't seem like a justification for going around blowing up buildings to me.

Reminds me of a kid throwing a brick through a window and then going "But Matt is a poopface!"

Even if Matt is a poopface, you don't throw bricks through windows. You were raised better than that.
I didn't bring up Hitler, I was just responding to the posts that were talking about him/Nazi Germany.

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UnfairRepresent
01/24/21 10:28:39 AM
#124:


g0ldie posted...
I didn't bring up Hitler, I was just responding to the posts that were talking about him/Nazi Germany.
Fair enough , I didn't read the topic. Just the most recent post

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Machete
01/24/21 10:31:47 AM
#125:


FlameTurtle posted...

Hard to believe that an actual human being typed this


Let's not jump to conclusions...
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MyTummyHurt
01/24/21 10:35:02 AM
#126:


Oh no!
anyway

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UnholyMudcrab
01/24/21 11:41:16 AM
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