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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:01:57 AM
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Trumper: "Just look at the economy, it was booming! The stock market was better than ever. he created so many jobs, more than Obama. Obama just increased the debt"

Me: "The economy was booming because of Obama, he inherited a shit show from Bush and turned it around. And after the recession he created more jobs per year than Trump ever did. Not to mention Trump has actually increased our debt."

Trumper: "You're just hating"

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Bleuets
01/20/21 12:04:05 AM
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Wow youre a fucking genius. Way to really show them Trump supporters! You really had them on the ropes!
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Joeydollaz
01/20/21 12:07:33 AM
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All hear is, he will be back March 22nd

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gamer167
01/20/21 12:11:01 AM
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Stop lying, nobody talks to you.
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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 12:16:41 AM
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dont take this personally, because I voted for both of these clowns (I only voted for trump in 2016!)

The economy is not booming. It wasnt booming under Trump and it wasnt booming under Obama. The reason that jobs are up is because wages are down and the cost of living is just fucking disgusting. You cant pay rent unless you get a night job at a gas station or something. Thats NOT a reflection of a good economy and neither is the stock market. If the people are struggling, then the economy sucks. If people are doing alright, then its a good economy. Im sick of people using that metric to claim that our economy is strong.

Bush left a wartime economy for Obama to fix, but what did he do? TWO Wall Street bailouts and nothing for us. Everyone loves to forget about that, but thats what occupy Wall Street was about. Then we saw the same thing with Trump. Take care of the bankers and CEOs. Did rent go down? Did student loans and medical loans get forgiven? Nope.

Our economy is and will remain bad until the average working citizen can breathe and SAVE money. The cost of living is basically figured out to rise every time you get ahead, so thats basically issue 1, 2, and 3.
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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:18:13 AM
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imagine voting for trump. imagine that.

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 12:19:56 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
imagine voting for trump. imagine that.
Imagine actually thinking that the economy was good under Obama. Imagine that.
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Frisk
01/20/21 12:20:50 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Imagine actually thinking that the economy was good under Obama. Imagine that.
It was

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Will_VIIII
01/20/21 12:21:45 AM
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I don't engage in conversations with Trump supporters because by nature of being a trump supporter, I'm not going to have a reasonable or intelligent discussion with them.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:22:41 AM
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saying you voted for trump in ONLY in 2016 is basically saying, "I am easily manipulated and have poor judgement, so I just ride the bandwagon"

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Vicious_Dios
01/20/21 12:23:45 AM
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Bleuets posted...
Wow youre a fucking genius. Way to really show them Trump supporters! You really had them on the ropes!

gamer167 posted...
Stop lying, nobody talks to you.


LMFAO!

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 12:25:03 AM
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Frisk posted...
It was
Nah, bro. It wasnt this bad, but people didnt have a pot to piss in. Why were people clamoring to increase minimum wage if the economy was good? Why were people fighting to have student debts forgiven if the economy was good? They didnt have the money to pay for anything. Whatever shitty job they got didnt pay enough to scratch their debts, with the rising rent costs.

We had a housing crisis, an economic crisis, and a medical crisis, and he struck out on all three.
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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:26:31 AM
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dude voted for trump, is anyone actually reading his posts

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 12:27:21 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
saying you voted for trump in ONLY in 2016 is basically saying, "I am easily manipulated and have poor judgement, so I just ride the bandwagon"
Saying obamas economy was good is basically saying, I have literally no idea what Im talking about, but the golden boy does no wrong!

If youre gonna try to argue with a trump supporter, maybe get your facts straight. Then again, I should have figured three paragraphs and a sentence was too much for your attention span.

Like I said, Trump sucks ass, but ignorant posts like yours dont make your argument look any better. If you cant call your own guy out, youre biased and your opinion is worth less.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:30:16 AM
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literally a trumper itt. wow.

how does it feel supporting a guy who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people?

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 12:32:03 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
literally a trumper itt. wow.

how does it feel supporting a guy who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people?
Look, dude. You said something stupid, I called you out, and now you look uninformed and childish. Your best bet is to delete this before anyone else sees how stupid youre being.

Hit me up when youre old enough to vote and then we can talk politics.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 12:35:28 AM
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Bro, you didn't call me out. You didn't refute anything I said. Our conversation is exactly like how I described in OP. I say facts and you say, "na obama sucked" and thats the end of that.

typical trumper.


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Vicious_Dios
01/20/21 1:23:33 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Look, dude. You said something stupid, I called you out, and now you look uninformed and childish. Your best bet is to delete this before anyone else sees how stupid youre being.

Hit me up when youre old enough to vote and then we can talk politics.

Topic over.

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MabusIncarnate
01/20/21 1:32:24 AM
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You can literally fly a kite in a Trumper's skull

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CelestialVoices
01/20/21 1:33:23 AM
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say they're hating, end it early and win
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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 1:51:01 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
Bro, you didn't call me out. You didn't refute anything I said. Our conversation is exactly like how I described in OP. I say facts and you say, "na obama sucked" and thats the end of that.

typical trumper.
Yeah, when people like you refuse to allow civil discourse, we will never have unity. Realize youre part of the problem and own it. How does it feel to be part of the problem instead part of the solution? You got butt mad when I even said I voted for Trump. Grow up and learn to have civil conversations.

Look back at the conversation and youll see that I simply posted something and you attacked me. When civil discourse isnt allowed, then its not a conversation; its a sermon in an echo chamber.
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Number090684
01/20/21 1:53:36 AM
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Will_VIIII posted...
I don't engage in conversations with Trump supporters because by nature of being a trump supporter, I'm not going to have a reasonable or intelligent discussion with them.

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Umbreon
01/20/21 1:54:12 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Yeah, when people like you refuse to allow civil discourse, we will never have unity


Does "Fuck Your Feelings 2016" ring any bells?


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metralo
01/20/21 1:55:23 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Yeah, when people like you refuse to allow civil discourse, we will never have unity. Realize youre part of the problem and own it. How does it feel to be part of the problem instead part of the solution? You got butt mad when I even said I voted for Trump. Grow up and learn to have civil conversations.

Look back at the conversation and youll see that I simply posted something and you attacked me. When civil discourse isnt allowed, then its not a conversation; its a sermon in an echo chamber.

fuck your feelings snowflake. Biden is YOUR president. and will be in 2024.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 1:56:32 AM
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is the trumper still posting? I thought he said he left the topic. of course he's too unstable to actually leave

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 1:58:32 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Does "Fuck Your Feelings 2016" ring any bells?
Sure does. I regret supporting the candidate whose supporters behaved like that, but it came down to two choices.

Im not going to hate myself for this, though, if thats what youre suggesting.

Theres no arguing that I wasnt associated with the people saying that and focusing on border walls and stuff, but if you equate me to one of these 2020 Trump supporters who think the COVID is a hoax and that the insurrection was good then you need to take a long, hard look at yourself.

The country is moving forward under Biden, and we are doing it together. Blaming is over. Fighting is over. If you want on board, we would love to have you, but this train is moving forward starting tomorrow morning. You dont want to get stuck with people like TC, cuz hes literally the exact same thing as a Trump cultist, just on the other side.

Probably best we hit this low karma shitposting Alt with the banhammer because hes just here to cause trouble tomorrow.
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Umbreon
01/20/21 1:59:58 AM
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But yeah.

Never forget that Trumpers spent 4 years joyfully indulging in the worst aspects of humanity. Never forget that kindness, consideration, and empathy were seen as weakness to them. Never forget that they wanted bad things to happen to the other side for daring to vote against them.

So when they come crawling on their knees asking for forgiveness... Remind them of their actions.

This is what they wanted. This is the future they deliberately chose.


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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 2:02:56 AM
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Umbreon posted...
But yeah.

Never forget that Trumpers spent 4 years joyfully indulging in the worst aspects of humanity. Never forget that kindness, consideration, and empathy were seen as weakness to them. Never forget that they wanted bad things to happen to the other side for daring to vote against them.

So when they come crawling on their knees asking for forgiveness... Remind them of their actions.

This is what they wanted. This is the future they deliberately chose.

Very true, but do you want the cycle to continue? Extremism begets extremism and I think its time to stop. If you play the same game they played, how are you any better than them? How is the nation any better?
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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 2:03:56 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Very true, but do you want the cycle to continue? Extremism begets extremism and I think its time to stop. If you play the same game they played, how are you any better than them? How is the nation any better?

Sorry, we don't negotiate with terrorists. Lock em all up.

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 2:05:15 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
Sorry, we don't negotiate with terrorists. Lock em all up.
The insurrectionists? Yeah, lock them up. This has literally nothing to do with what I said, though. What did you get your main suspended for, Dan Haren?
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metralo
01/20/21 2:19:38 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Very true, but do you want the cycle to continue? Extremism begets extremism and I think its time to stop. If you play the same game they played, how are you any better than them? How is the nation any better?

glad its suddenly time to stop now.

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Umbreon
01/20/21 2:20:52 AM
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I'm not interested in joining up with the people who literally think my life doesn't matter.

You say "I'm not part of the 2020 crowd!", but yes. Yes you are.

Even now you're more concerned with sweeping things under the rug and trying to both sides, rather than actually atone.

You saw Trump belittle the disabled, encourage violence, and engage in blatant racism in the past. Or were you sleeping during that whole Birther movement.

You saw Nazis kill in Charlottesville, and Trump call them "very fine people".

You saw peaceful protests suffer assaults and indignities by the police. You saw innocent people dragged off the streets into unmarked vans.

You saw Trump deny and downplay Covid-19, and the price American citizens paid for the convenience of the rich.

You had no issue with any of this. Yet you expect us to believe that 1/6 was your change of heart?

We do not need, nor want, to work with people like you. You haven't seen the light, you just want all the things you supported to be forgotten.

If you're truly sorry, prove it. Demanding unity after 4 years of you refusing it isn't going to fly.

Again, this is what you wanted. As far as I'm concerned, I'm fine with never speaking with Trumpers again. Doesn't mean I want to hurt anyone, but I'm not interested in befriending them.

Elections have concequences.


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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 2:25:00 AM
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Like I said, when you guys are ready for civil discourse, hit me up. Youre being part of the problem; be part of the solution.

If you had bothered to read the rest of my posts, you would have clearly seen where I said I got off of the Trump Train one year into his administration, so dont come at me with that, you got off board on the sixth crap. Im not an 11th hour change of heart, and I clearly stated it.
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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 2:41:51 AM
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You have bad enough judgement to vote for him in the first place, nothing you say should be taken with any sort of seriousness.

Like, how are you so easily manipulated? Legit question. Lack of education? Low socioeconomic class? Lost soul? Racist? Hate minorities?

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Alkeez
01/20/21 2:46:46 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
dude voted for trump, is anyone actually reading his posts

As someone who is very much on the left in my country and has seen this shit show you call politics with Trump over the last 4 years, almost hoping it would destroy right wing politics (even though I know a good opposition is needed) for a while, mostly because some of our far right politicians has almost started mimicking Trump and he has basically legitimized it .....

How on earth can you create a topic like this and respond with that, after he came with criticisms about Obama that is often used by the left too. The blindness... Don't you see that you basically did "You're just hating" yourself?

Listen to your new president and start uniting. Let the fringe lose their power by welcoming the people who now, for whatever reason, see the errors in the past.


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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 2:48:44 AM
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shut the fuck up

I dont unite with terrorists, nazis, confederates, or racists. I dont see how it does our country any good to do that. Infact it makes our country weaker.

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Alkeez
01/20/21 2:51:14 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
shut the fuck up

I dont unite with terrorists, nazis, confederates, or racists. I dont see how it does our country any good to do that. Infact it makes our country weaker.

"You're just hating"


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Shadowplay
01/20/21 2:56:31 AM
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Think you guys are being a little harsh on that guy that voted for Trump. If he changed his mind on something political when it was not fashionable to do so, then he's light years ahead of the morons who think that the election was stolen. He literally did what the media and the entire left wanted Trump supporters to do, which was to abandon him. Does his lapse in judgment in voting for Trump in 2016 really have to be treated as a permanent black mark?

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 2:58:33 AM
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Yes.

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Shablagoo
01/20/21 3:02:24 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
If the people are struggling, then the economy sucks. If people are doing alright, then its a good economy.

but da stonks goed up

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Solid Snake07
01/20/21 3:06:13 AM
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Both parties have been wrenching up the defecit for as long as most of us have been alive. For either to criticize the other for spending and fiscal responsibility is a complete joke.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 3:07:32 AM
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There will always be 'people' not doing well. It could be the best economy in the world and there would be people not doing well.

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Umbreon
01/20/21 3:09:21 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
Does his lapse in judgment in voting for Trump in 2016 really have to be treated as a permanent black mark?


...Why have that lapse in the first place? There were already countless warnings before 2016 election. Did the 8 years of "This black man isn't an American citizen because reasons" not clue them in?

What reason do we have to trust... anything they say?


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Shablagoo
01/20/21 3:10:56 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
There will always be 'people' not doing well. It could be the best economy in the world and there would be people not doing well.

Thats a bad way to measure the economy then. A good economy should be good for all the lives in the nation, not just a handful of people within it.

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Payzmaykr
01/20/21 3:11:50 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
Think you guys are being a little harsh on that guy that voted for Trump. If he changed his mind on something political when it was not fashionable to do so, then he's light years ahead of the morons who think that the election was stolen. He literally did what the media and the entire left wanted Trump supporters to do, which was to abandon him. Does his lapse in judgment in voting for Trump in 2016 really have to be treated as a permanent black mark?

Alkeez posted...
As someone who is very much on the left in my country and has seen this shit show you call politics with Trump over the last 4 years, almost hoping it would destroy right wing politics (even though I know a good opposition is needed) for a while, mostly because some of our far right politicians has almost started mimicking Trump and he has basically legitimized it .....

How on earth can you create a topic like this and respond with that, after he came with criticisms about Obama that is often used by the left too. The blindness... Don't you see that you basically did "You're just hating" yourself?

Listen to your new president and start uniting. Let the fringe lose their power by welcoming the people who now, for whatever reason, see the errors in the past.

Thanks, guys. Sometimes we have to make a mistake to learn, but I think TCs refusal of unity is worse than me trusting a charlatan one time. Lesson learned, though. We arent going to be a country that represents 100% of the population when people are too immature to listen to others.
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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 3:25:01 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Thats a bad way to measure the economy then. A good economy should be good for all the lives in the nation, not just a handful of people within it.

who said handful? If your definition of 'good' is 100% of people being successful then no economy will ever be good.


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Shablagoo
01/20/21 3:36:27 AM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
who said handful?

No one said it, its just the way the economy has been trending for decades and continues to trend.

If your definition of 'good' is 100% of people being successful then no economy will ever be good.

Thats a very defeatist attitude.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 3:40:29 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
No one said it, its just the way the economy has been trending for decades and continues to trend.

Thats a very defeatist attitude.

Its realistic, not defeatist. Your vision is literally a fantasy.

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Shablagoo
01/20/21 3:55:19 AM
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Its not. We produce enough food for 11 billion people to eat. The only reason so many go hungry is because of an artificial system of scarcity. The system we currently live in is essentially the fantasy of some 18th and 19th century racist (like, the kind who practiced phrenology) aristocrats who pulled it out of their asses.

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MaddenDude--
01/20/21 4:04:30 AM
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It is a fantasy bro.

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