Current Events > Humans made guns/weapons that bring death & destruction near instantaneously

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Have we spent near enough resources trying to construct a device that does the opposite?

Why are we such a self-destructive species?

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I've given this quite a bit of thought.

Considering that humans have invented many, many things that aren't designed to kill or destroy, it should be a testament to human's creative power.

You are focusing on things like bombs and guns but what about water purification or energy generation. Things like vaccines and antibacteral soap and sanitizer.

These are not the inventions of a species that entirely wants to destroy itself.

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To live is to die. To survive is to kill. To be human is to destroy. It's your undeniable nature. For humanity to survive, they had to kill anything. In modern society, it's no longer as neccesary for survival and yet...

To be human is to slaughter. This is what my master told me about your kind.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

I've given this quite a bit of thought.

Considering that humans have invented many, many things that aren't designed to kill or destroy, it should be a testament to human's creative power.

You are focusing on things like bombs and guns but what about water purification or energy generation. Things like vaccines and antibacteral soap and sanitizer.

These are not the inventions of a species that entirely wants to destroy itself.

This is what we(USA) spent on health in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$87.1 billion

This is what we(USA) spent on defense in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$721.5 billion

I think we have things backwards.


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KINDERFELD posted...

This is what we(USA) spent on health in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$87.1 billion

This is what we(USA) spent on defense in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$721.5 billion

I think we have things backwards.

I still think you are still missing the point all together. I'm not saying you are wrong. Even if we are currently on a path of self destruction, that doesn't mean that it is total. Self preservation measures still exist.

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The problem with the genesis device is that it kills just as easily as it creates. Didnt you watch the historical documents?

KINDERFELD posted...

This is what we(USA) spent on health in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$87.1 billion

This is what we(USA) spent on defense in 2020, during a global pandemic:
$721.5 billion

I think we have things backwards.

I think you gotta check your numbers. The U.S. government spends well over $1 trillion on healthcare each year.
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snake1989 posted...

I think you gotta check your numbers. The U.S. government spends well over $1 trillion on healthcare each year.

I think you need to check the breakdown on what that 1 trillion was spent on. Mainly, separate all the funding meant to maintain America's economy from the funding actually used on eradicating the virus.

I'm not saying that governments shouldn't assist those who are experiencing financial hardship during this pandemic, but lets not conflate the two.

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It shouldn't come as a surprise that aliens want nothing to do with us.

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KINDERFELD posted...

snake1989 posted...

I think you gotta check your numbers. The U.S. government spends well over $1 trillion on healthcare each year.

I think you need to check the breakdown on what that 1 trillion was spent on. Mainly, separate all the funding meant to maintain America's economy from the funding actually used on eradicating the virus.

I'm not saying that governments shouldn't assist those who are experiencing financial hardship during this pandemic, but lets not conflate the two.

Not even talking about the stimulus, actually. Healthcare is part of the mandatory budget, which makes up the largest portion of government spending. Military spending falls under the much smaller discretionary budget:

https://www.thebalance.com/current-federal-mandatory-spending-3305772

That being said I agree that we could shift some defense spending to healthcare, but even 100% of the current defense budget would only barely equal what we pay for medicare alone (roughly $722 billion).
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shironinja posted...

It shouldn't come as a surprise that aliens want nothing to do with us.

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While Elon Musk launches billions of dollars of government paid for rockets into space, Americans are begging for $2000 one time stimulus check to help them through a global pandemic.

We seriously have things backwards.

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The grandfather of rocketry Konstantin Tsiolkovski said

Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot remain in the cradle forever

Of course that was before the internet popularised infantilism.
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KINDERFELD posted...

While Elon Musk launches billions of dollars of government paid for rockets into space, Americans beg for $2000 one time stimulus check to help them through a global pandemic.

We seriously have things backwards.

Please do not make these sort of arguments. Space exploration is not the problem. It's not an either or here.

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PiOverlord posted...

Please do not make these sort of arguments. Space exploration is not the problem. It's not an either or here.

I'm saying elon musk got his government funding well before the pandemic while American suffer throughout 2020. No fault of Elon but definitely all the blame goes on Trump, his incompetence and all those who overtly and covertly support him.

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Here's why. This mentality can be traced back to our distant ancestors:

Ug found shiny thing. Conk wants Ug shiny thing. Conk bonk Ug on head and take shiny thing

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KINDERFELD posted...

While Elon Musk launches billions of dollars of government paid for rockets into space, Americans beg for $2000 one time stimulus check to help them through a global pandemic.

We seriously have things backwards.

I love how you just ignored post #11 lmao

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AceAttorneyist posted...

I love how you just ignored post #11 lmao

Did you even read the link he posted?
It basically and rightfully supported my stance.

More money was spent trying to keep the economy afloat than address the spreading of the virus.

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KINDERFELD posted...

Did you even read the link he posted?
It basically and rightfully supported my stance.

More money was spent trying to keep the economy afloat than address the spreading of the virus.

What are you talking about? His link shows we're projected to spend over $1 trillion on Medicare and Medicaid combined alone, which doesn't even account for all our health care spending. You said we spent about $87 billion.

Are you drunk?

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AceAttorneyist posted...

What are you talking about? His link shows we're projected to spend over $1 trillion on Medicare and Medicaid combined alone, which doesn't even account for all our health care spending. You said we spent about $87 billion.

Are you drunk?

Are you drunk?
Did you actually read the entirety and comprehend that its literally telling you funds were allocated towards the upkeep of the economy or am I conversing with a maga head?

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Hard fact is that bringing death is more useful than protecting life. If you're good enough at death, you can eliminate those you don't like, threaten others to obey you, protect yourself from external forces, hunt to provide food, & generally do what you want because no one will dare challenge you. The immediate value of saving people isn't nearly as prominent.

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KINDERFELD posted...

Are you drunk?
Did you actually read the entirety and comprehend that its literally telling you funds were allocated towards the upkeep of the economy or am I conversing with a maga head?

You're saying that part of the $1 trillion used for Medicare and Medicaid was used for upkeep of the economy? Where in the article does it say that? Besides generating healthcare related jobs (which the funding toward those programs always does) I don't see how it would be stimulating the economy.

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AceAttorneyist posted...

You're saying that part of the $1 trillion used for Medicare and Medicaid was used for upkeep of the economy? Where in the article does it say that? Besides generating healthcare related jobs (which the funding toward those programs always does) I don't see how it would be stimulating the economy.

You have earned the right to be ignored for being a buffoon.

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KINDERFELD posted...

You have earned the right to be ignored for being a buffoon.

Seems I have my answer, thanks for your concession.

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AceAttorneyist posted...

Seems I have my answer, thanks for your concession.

You obviously did not read the entire article, yet accuse me of being drunk etc.
You have earned the right to be ignored and you will be.

Your screen name is obviously an epic joke.

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You seem awfully sure such a device is even possible with just more funding based on.......absolutely nothing it seems. Aside from fantasy like healing magic or potions.

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Prismsblade posted...

You seem awfully sure such a device is even possible with just more funding based on.......absolutely nothing it seems. Aside from fantasy like healing magic or potions.

We'll probably never know because there simply isn't that kind of funding put into preventative medicine.
We capitalize on sickness by pasifying the symptoms instead of curing.

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