Current Events > Why do people say lion king ripped off Kimba the white lion

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Outside of being about a lion, arent their stories completely different?

IIRC arent a bunch of the visuals drawn from it? Like for example I think Kimba sees his dead father in the sky as well.

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i don't get it either

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Is kimba hamlet, cuz that's what TLK is

Not in the slightest

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I took high school Japanese and I remember the teacher talking about this. She believed it was a ripoff

I'm inclined to agree since the names are so similar. I think she maybe played a Kimba episode in class once but I dont really remember it too well

If there was anything ripped off it was in some visual elements, maybe. The stories are absolutely nothing alike in any real way and the Tezuka family doesn't even think it was ripped off.

Zikten posted...

I took high school Japanese and I remember the teacher talking about this. She believed it was a ripoff

I'm inclined to agree since the names are so similar. I think she maybe played a Kimba episode in class once but I dont really remember it too well

Simba is literally just Swahili for lion.

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Disney lost this lawsuit, so it is a ripoff
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Kafkaf posted...

Disney lost this lawsuit, so it is a ripoff

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https://youtu.be/vHps2iC8W3o
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ssj3vegeta posted...

https://youtu.be/vHps2iC8W3o

Wow. The evidence is clear.

But is it homage or is it theft?

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Pretty sure disney got sued and the people behind Kimba won so yeah TLK was a rip off and the courts clearly agreed.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

Wow. The evidence is clear.

But is it homage or is it theft?

It's straight up plagiarism.

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Accusations aside, there's literally never been any litigation from it. Disney didn't lose anything. I don't know where you all are getting this.

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they're insanely different and people just cherry-pick random scenes from random pieces of kimba animation taken out of context and made out to be more similar to the lion king than they actually are
the people who make the argument are being incredibly dishonest about it
stuff sharing cinematic language isn't enough to make things a rip off, and there's always a chance that something is just done the same way out of coincidence

this video's super long but it's very well researched and absolutely shows that it's not the rip off people claim it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4

Wii_Shaker posted...

Wow. The evidence is clear.

But is it homage or is it theft?

No, it's stealing from the little guy and throwing all your resources behind it to crush them as competitors. Pretty much the origin of all huge companies.

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leo's name was changed to kimba in localization, though why that could be is anyone's guess

Because they're both animations and both feature young lions, OF COURSE one ripped off the other.

Just like how George Lucas ripped off Star Trek to create Star Wars.

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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

You sound defensive.

Nah, it's still pretty legit. Even Mokoto Tezuka thinks it's only coincidental, and that the themes and stories of the two are completely different. Similar scenes isn't really enough to be outright plagiarism.

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Distant_Rainbow posted...

Because they're both animations and both feature young lions, OF COURSE one ripped off the other.

Just like how George Lucas ripped off Star Trek to create Star Wars.

Actually he ripped off Dune. Star Wars was literally a Dune movie that got rejected so Lucas scrubbed all the references to Dune and released it Star Wars.

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Kimba should have advertised in America better. Their own fault nobody knew they existed.

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I dont remember the part where simba serenaded his dads corpse then wore it to scare another lion.
https://youtu.be/p-h_YSthHBY

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Actually he ripped off Dune. Star Wars was literally a Dune movie that got rejected so Lucas scrubbed all the references to Dune and released it Star Wars.

Kinda like how Warcraft is a flat ripoff of Warhammer

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ZeroX91 posted...

Kinda like how Warcraft is a flat ripoff of Warhammer

The exact same thing happened with both Warcraft-Warhammer and Starcraft-WH40K. Both times Games Workshop said no, and both times Blizzard proceeded to show why that was a dumb fucking idea.

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Kimba, the white lion.

And he's not afraid of anything.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

The exact same thing happened with both Warcraft-Warhammer and Starcraft-WH40K. Both times Games Workshop said no, and both times Blizzard proceeded to show why that was a dumb fucking idea.

Not wrong just like fuck man i didnt even know warhammer or40k were things 6 months ago that shit is really blantent

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I've seen the long video illuminious posted. They're nothing alike, kimba the white lion is a long animated series with very different themes (and is very very weird). most of the clips people use to show the similiarities came from the movie that was released after the lion king. The scar character in kimba is basically a minor villain that has a handful of appearances.

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the only thing i remember about kimba is that there was a trailer for at the end of several VHS tapes for the pokemon anime

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literally a case of "we did your shit better than you"

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People should really watch YMS' fantastic video about Kimba the White Lion. Not only is it super well researched, but it also completely destroys the "Lion King ripped off Kimba" narrative. Granted, it's two hours and thirty minutes long, but it's definitely worth the watch.

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Some Disney fanboys tried making a case for why it wasn't a rip-off, but it's far too similar to be anything other than a blatant rip-off. Like fuck lol. They changed one letter.

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Kitt posted...

People should really watch YMS' fantastic video about Kimba the White Lion. Not only is it super well researched, but it also completely destroys the "Lion King ripped off Kimba" narrative. Granted, it's two hours and thirty minutes long, but it's definitely worth the watch.

This gets brought up every time and it never destroys the narrative.

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

This gets brought up every time and it never destroys the narrative.

If you refuse to accept reality, sure.

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The biggest issue is Disney boasts TLK as a highly original creation. It's not. They should just simply give props to the people who inspired them. It really is that simple.

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Veggeta X posted...

The biggest issue is Disney boasts TLK as a highly original creation. It's not. They should just simply give props to the people who inspired them. It really is that simple.

That's actually all they want. They just want to hear some recognition from Disney that Kimba inspired TLK.

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

This gets brought up every time and it never destroys the narrative.

Care to explain?

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Care to explain?

I imagine its because people don't care enough to watch a two and a half hour video, although the video convinced me pretty early on.

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Veggeta X posted...

The biggest issue is Disney boasts TLK as a highly original creation. It's not. They should just simply give props to the people who inspired them. It really is that simple.

Did it inspire them though? This seem like it's more of a case of just two things having aspects that are similar (one being from a single movie and the other being from an entire franchise, including entries that came after the aforementioned single movie) by coincidence.
TLK seems to take more inspiration from Shakespeare which Disney has always been pretty open about.

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Kitt posted...

by coincidence

I HIGHLY doubt that. With all the writers and artists behind TLK, one or two(or more) must have known something about Kimba as Kimba was one of the most well known creations in Japan. To go on so far nonchalant without anyone every saying "Hey this looks like it's from Kimba" is just not believable.

Not only that but beta versions of Simba was White(like Kimba). But hey, that's just my opinion. Feel free to think they are completely separate from each other.

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Veggeta X posted...

Feel free to think they are completely separate from each other.

Sure. I will. Because outside of a handful of coincidences, they pretty much are.

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