Current Events > other than difficulty options. dark souls could have been better with

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• removal of fall damage
• swimming ability
• removal of forced pvp online

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ModLogic posted...

* removal of fall damage

Eh, Dark Souls is already broken as it is, so fall damage, although an annoyance, is necessary.

* swimming ability

Would be interesting exploring Ash Lake, and Flooded New Londo Ruins.

* removal of forced pvp online

LMFAO! Fuck no. This is the bread and butter. Fuck you mean?


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Thank you for not being a game developer

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you remove the PVP and you remove half the fun. i was never a fan of doing much PVP, but the threat of some jackass invading made farming interesting.

major thing i wish they'd fix is the hit box bullshit.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

LMFAO! Fuck no. This is the bread and butter. Fuck you mean?

Forced PVP is objectively bad game design, in anything
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Without fall damage you could trivialize a shit ton of content lol

And PVP is hilarious, you can always just play offline

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Ving_Rhames posted...

Without fall damage you could trivialize a shit ton of content lol

And PVP is hilarious, you can always just play offline

This guy gets it.

Why do people insist on saying "Dark Souls would be better if it were a totally different game!"

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Then play offline.

Thats what I do, unless I roll a character with a pvp build in mind.

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MarthGoomba posted...

Forced PVP is objectively bad game design, in anything

Good thing it's not forced on you. ('-' )


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There already are difficulty modes

You can get 10 flasks and increased healing

thats way too easy

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I don't understand the boner for the invasions thing.

I liked playing online because I liked reading all the notes people would leave. It's really cute and fun.

I think I got invaded randomly once after a boss fight and I had 50k souls and I died. Not really that fun, imo.

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i just wish the games had a pause button, if my character is hollow nobody can invade me anyway so why cant i pause the damn game to go to the bathroom

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R1masher posted...

Thank you for not being a game developer

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MutantJohn posted...

I don't understand the boner for the invasions thing.

I liked playing online because I liked reading all the notes people would leave. It's really cute and fun.

I think I got invaded randomly once after a boss fight and I had 50k souls and I died. Not really that fun, imo.

invasions just made the game more toxic

people didnt play dark souls for the janky pvp. its first and foremost an action/adventure platformer.

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ModLogic posted...

people didnt play dark souls for the janky pvp. its first and foremost an action/adventure platformer.

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Removal of all the enemies except the bosses.

I want a game that is basically Monster Hunter but set in Dark Souls type atmosphere / combat.

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Removing fall damage would literally remove large parts of the game. Blighttown would be easily skipped within like 5 seconds of entering it. Like, sure you can already speedrun it and do some nice drop downs, but not all the fucking way to the bottom in one jump.

Swimming would either be really pointless or really shitty if they try to force stuff like underwater combat into it which no one ever likes in any game ever.

Invasions... eh. I hate them too, but just stay hollow, play offline, or accept the risk if you want to summon.

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What's weirdest to me is how much people gatekeep Dark Souls.

Like, you can't really discuss anything about the game design without people insulting you, saying "thankfully you don't design video games".

Dark Souls games are fun and all but it doesn't mean they're perfect.

Sekiro had 0 invasions and was the best game they've ever made so far.

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MutantJohn posted...

What's weirdest to me is how much people gatekeep Dark Souls.

Like, you can't really discuss anything about the game design without people insulting you, saying "thankfully you don't design video games".

Dark Souls games are fun and all but it doesn't mean they're perfect.

Sekiro had 0 invasions and was the best game they've ever made so far.

Nah thats not gatekeeping and nobody thinks the games are absolutely perfect, you even had someone in this topic talk about fixing hitboxes. What I hate is people who want to fundamentally change the game -- dark souls with no invasions isn't dark souls.

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hitokoriX posted...

Nah thats not gatekeeping and nobody thinks the games are absolutely perfect, you even had someone in this topic talk about fixing hitboxes. What I hate is people who want to fundamentally change the game -- dark souls with no invasions isn't dark souls.

That seems dumb. I played the game getting invaded as few times as possible and it was still one of the best games I've played.

I really don't see how this is a fundamental aspect of the gameplay.

I think it's mostly just players enjoying being dicks.

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I've just made it to Blighttown (or at least right before it, I keep dying trying to actually get there) and I've never reverse hollowed. Being invaded sounds really stressful. No thanks.

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I think Bloodborne did invasions the best, where you mostly only get invaded when you summoned help, and you can also kill the invasion summoner.

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No game should have difficulty options. Create one balanced game experience.

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