Current Events > Manchin is on board with possibly removing Cruz and Hawley under the 14th

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Bio1590
01/16/21 2:53:45 PM
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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/534565-manchin-removing-hawley-cruz-with-14th-amendment-should-be-a-consideration

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said the Senate should consider removing Sens. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) via the 14th Amendment over their objections last week to the Electoral College results.

Speaking to PBSs Firing Line on Friday night, Manchin said the Senate should explore the option after a violent mob, riled up by President Trump and convinced by Republicans such as Hawley and Cruz that the election was fraudulent, ransacked the Capitol in one of the darkest points in American democracy.

That should be a consideration, Manchin responded when asked if the 14th Amendment should be triggered. He understands that. Teds a very bright individual, and I get along fine with Ted, but what he did was totally outside of the realm of our responsibilities or our privileges.

The third section of the 14th Amendment reads that no lawmaker holding office shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Critics of Hawley and Cruz, who led the effort in the Senate to object to the presidential election results in Arizona and Pennsylvania, said the amendment applies to the two senators, whom they blame for inciting the riot with their rhetoric echoing concerns of election fraud and irregularities. Last weeks mayhem resulted in the deaths of five people, including a Capitol Police officer and a rioter who was shot by another officer while trying to breach a window in the building.

Several Democrats have called for the two senators resignations, while Republicans have rebuked them for their objections, which Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) called dumbass.

Hawley and Cruz, however, have defended their actions, saying they were trying to address concerns from their constituents about election fraud that were propagated by the president and his allies.

Im totally convinced it was done because of political reasons. This was all politically motivated. This was calculated, said Manchin. I believe that all my colleagues truly made a decision that was politically best for them and expedient for them. It was not what they believed to be true or false.

Last weeks rioters unsuccessfully sought to stop a vote to certify the Electoral College results showing President-elect Joe Biden with a 306-232 victory. While the vote ultimately passed, lawmakers were temporarily sent fleeing to a secure location, where Manchin said he spoke with Hawley.

"I looked at Josh, and I said, 'Josh, you have a right to do what youre doing, but think of whats happening, what youre seeing on the monitors. Think about, basically, our country,'" he said. "There wasnt much conversation back and forth on that. He listened to me, and I could tell it was weighing on him, and I was hoping that we were able to maybe change his mind to go up there and stop his objections."

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BeyondWalls
01/16/21 2:55:54 PM
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We can hope. But it wont happen. Hawley is a legitimate threat. People need to start taking that threat seriously.

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thronedfire2
01/16/21 2:56:07 PM
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The qanon people would have a blast with that

just imagine the mess the emergency elections would cause

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NinjaWarrior455
01/16/21 3:01:31 PM
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If those two or any other members had contact with the rioters prior to last Wednesday as has been reported then they need to be expelled and potentially jailed as well.

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au_gold
01/16/21 3:02:12 PM
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Good.

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GallisOTK
01/16/21 3:04:41 PM
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Good
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gunplagirl
01/16/21 3:06:02 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
We can hope. But it wont happen. Hawley is a legitimate threat. People need to start taking that threat seriously.
This, got to tear him out of the ground and salt the earth so the seeds he's sowing can never grow

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kyujo
01/16/21 3:07:56 PM
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au_gold posted...
Good.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...
If those two or any other members had contact with the rioters prior to last Wednesday as has been reported then they need to be expelled and potentially jailed as well.


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Cowthief
01/16/21 3:08:10 PM
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Nice. When it was ongoing I was kinda worried that the dems wouldn't treat this seriously. Glad to know I was wrong.

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Irony
01/16/21 3:09:13 PM
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Just arrest them

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Delirious_Beard
01/16/21 8:54:32 PM
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i'm rather happy to see hawley fail like this. i was worried about him essentially shouting to the world his intent to be the next right wing demagogue given how much more intelligent he is than someone like trump, but he lacks that appeal to the absolute bottom of the barrel americans. i think he comes off as just too educated

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BobLoblaw_
01/16/21 8:57:50 PM
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Irony posted...
Just arrest them


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Tyranthraxus
01/16/21 9:02:48 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
We can hope. But it wont happen. Hawley is a legitimate threat. People need to start taking that threat seriously.

RAW I'm reading they would be tried by a jury and automatically removed by the 14th amendment unless 2/3rds votes to reinstate him. That's a fairly plausible scenario.

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AllegraD
01/16/21 9:03:18 PM
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remove them? wtf?

Just arrest them and throw them in prison somewhere...what is this removal BS

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SPE
01/16/21 9:20:31 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Meh. I'll believe him getting removed when I see it.


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SPE
01/16/21 9:21:15 PM
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They need to disable them so they cant run for potus. Then the only remaining supremacist is cotton

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