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DepreceV2
12/30/20 7:50:57 PM
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are taking them. We have fliers up and everything. Most people seem to really fear the vaccine. I mean, its understandable based on the speed it was developed alone. At this rate, our hospital might need to give out a financial benefit to get one.

I know everyone will ask me if I have received mine. I havent. Its stupid because I know it should be safe based on what I looked into. Yet... I dont know. I guess I have an irrational fear of it or something. Ill get it eventually when I get over it and just do it

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iPhone_7
12/30/20 7:55:05 PM
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So youre all anti-vaxxers. k

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12/30/20 7:56:03 PM
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Doom_Art
12/30/20 7:57:54 PM
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Being afraid or skeptical of it is so god damned moronic

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 7:58:19 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
So youre all anti-vaxxers. k

No Im not. I get vaccines all the time no problem. I cant really explain why I havent yet. Its weird. I dont have an excuse or legit read on for it. That is why I landed on irrational fear because I literally cant think of another reason.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 7:58:52 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Being afraid or skeptical of it is so god damned moronic

I dont disagree. I feel very dumb for being afraid of it

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SauI_Goodman
12/30/20 7:59:26 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
So youre all anti-vaxxers. k
Youre only an anti vaccer if you refuse to get it period. Being cautious and waiting is not anti vaccing. You guys need to get that concept out of your head.

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legendarylemur
12/30/20 8:00:06 PM
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There's no reported death via the vaccine or any serious long term effects except due to external factors like bodily modification, so might as well just take it.

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OnlyTheTruth
12/30/20 8:01:39 PM
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The Pfizer one is not as safe because of people not freezing/mixing it properly and not realizing if they open shipping container twice they ruin batch.

But Moderna is 100% fine, (Pfizer is fine if you have a super high end lab with -75 degree celcius deep freeze rooms instead of the normalvaccine freezer they always use.)

At end if day these are mRNA vaccines that were slightly modified from a vaccine they were already using safely.
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hockeybub89
12/30/20 8:03:01 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Youre only an anti vaccer if you refuse to get it period.
Factually untrue. Donald Trump is an anti-vaxxer despite never saying no one should get vaccines ever. Irrational hesitancy and fear in the face of data and logic makes someone anti- whatever

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Complete_Idi0t
12/30/20 8:08:19 PM
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Good thing you don't have a fear of catching the covid while working at a fucking hospital
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DepreceV2
12/30/20 8:10:01 PM
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I feel better about it after making this topic. Ill get it tomorrow as long as a there is a Pharmacist there that can give it. Not all pharmacists can give vaccines which is pretty nuts to think about

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Dark_SilverX
12/30/20 8:14:47 PM
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Bill Gates said it's fine.

There is nothing to worry about.

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David1988
12/30/20 8:23:23 PM
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I'm sure the ones that created the vaccine, giant corporations whos primary objective is profit, companies which have paid billions in fines before for fraudulent marketing of their products will make sure from the goodness of their heart that the vaccine is perfectly safe to take. You would have to absolutely moronic to be even the least bit skeptical of them.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 8:27:09 PM
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Lots of people I talk to about this are hesitant on taking the vaccine as well. This goes from Doctors, to Pharmacists, to family and friends. I mentioned I might take it and Im already getting push back. These people arent anti-vaccers.

The idea of calling someone an anti-vaccer who gets vaccines yearly, more than most people, but are hesitant on a quickly developed vaccine is absurd to me.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 8:40:22 PM
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Ive decided. Im 100% getting it. I have talked to my mom about this, who is an RN, and she decided to get it. I know, many of you will ask why I didnt talk to her first. I dont have the greatest relationship with my mom. I mean, its ok. We love each other and all but I dont feel I can talk to my mom about many things. I wont get into details why.

She gave it a lot of thought herself and she is going to do it when she goes back to work. I was teetering but this seals it. Im getting mine tomorrow

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badjay
12/30/20 8:42:56 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Lots of people I talk to about this are hesitant on taking the vaccine as well. This goes from Doctors, to Pharmacists, to family and friends. I mentioned I might take it and Im already getting push back. These people arent anti-vaccers.

The idea of calling someone an anti-vaccer who gets vaccines yearly, more than most people, but are hesitant on a quickly developed vaccine is absurd to me.

I don't understand, are you a doctor? Are you college educated at all? Is the fear mongering getting to you from social media?

I got the Pfizer Vaccine the moment I read the journal article regarding the production of the vaccine and its safety myself. It was about 80-100 pages long I forget. The one thing I didn't manage to do was to see how the mRNA was produced on a step by step basis, but from my limited genetics/biochem knowledge I have some idea how they went about it, but I'd really like to know how it was produced.

I don't understand how any medical professional hasn't done this FIRST thing in regards to their doubt of the vaccine. I always hear bullshit like oh corporations and blah, but I've worked in a lab myself, I know there's some push, but at the end of the day you document everything when you work in a lab and put it in the final paper you release. This is what boggles my mind. It feels like none of these doctors or nurses or pharmacists or anyone with high end degrees bothered to do the research with their doubts. I had my doubts too, but when you work damn hard to get your degree YOU HAVE THE GOD DAMN ABILITY TO ANALYZE THESE DOCUMENTS. You have a gift of knowledge that so many others don't have nor have the opportunity to do. All that science mumbo jumbo, YOU can read it, and instead of reading it, you leave it up to some mainstream media person to tell you what to worry about? Ridiculous. Whether it's a FOX news anchor or a CNN anchor, you shouldn't be letting them or most of the people on the internet dictate your feelings.

You go sit your ass down find the relevant SCIENTIFIC articles that relate to the vaccine and read them and judge from an educated standpoint whether you should take it or not. Don't do this bullshit about B-B-BUT THE VACCINE COULD BE A SHAM. If it's a fucking sham you'll be able to find out if it's a sham by breaking down how the procedure they did to make the vaccine sucked or the process they used to determine if the vaccine was safe sucked, BECAUSE YOU ARE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO DO SO (if you do work in medicine).

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NathanX95
12/30/20 8:46:55 PM
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Lol, sucks for the hospital workers and elderly who are gonna be the guinea pigs for the vaccine.
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Ooooooranges
12/30/20 8:48:49 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Lots of people I talk to about this are hesitant on taking the vaccine as well. This goes from Doctors, to Pharmacists, to family and friends. I mentioned I might take it and Im already getting push back. These people arent anti-vaccers.

The idea of calling someone an anti-vaccer who gets vaccines yearly, more than most people, but are hesitant on a quickly developed vaccine is absurd to me.

No it doesn't. Doctors and pharmacists aren't that dumb. No need to make things up to try to prove a point.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 8:52:05 PM
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Ooooooranges posted...
No it doesn't. Doctors and pharmacists aren't that dumb. No need to make things up to try to prove a point.

Im a Pharmacy Tech. You have no idea. I know Pharmacists who wouldnt wear masks if it was required. In fact, some dont at night after the higher ups go home.

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Ooooooranges
12/30/20 8:53:25 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Im a Pharmacy Tech. You have no idea. I know Pharmacists who wouldnt wear masks if it was required. In fact, some dont at night after the higher ups go home.

Maybe I just live in the not-dumb part of the country.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 9:00:14 PM
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Ooooooranges posted...
Maybe I just live in the not-dumb part of the country.

Probably. I do live in the South so I guess that wouldnt shock you

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Drug_Smoker
12/30/20 9:09:52 PM
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How hard is it to get hired at a hospital? I'll take a job as a janitor for a week if it means I can get a shot. Instead of waiting months while all the old anti-vax trumpers get it before me.

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SergeantGander
12/30/20 9:16:38 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Lots of people I talk to about this are hesitant on taking the vaccine as well. This goes from Doctors, to Pharmacists, to family and friends. I mentioned I might take it and Im already getting push back. These people arent anti-vaccers.

The difference is they're all real people you're talking to face to face.

Not a bunch of weirdos on the internet that are so stuck in their polarized views they actually call you an anti-vaxxer for being hesitant

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 9:19:33 PM
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Drug_Smoker posted...
How hard is it to get hired at a hospital? I'll take a job as a janitor for a week if it means I can get a shot. Instead of waiting months while all the old anti-vax trumpers get it before me.

Probably not hard. Im sure many hospitals need help even from EVS. We call janitors that at our hospital EVS workers which stands for Environmental Services.

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LightHawKnight
12/30/20 9:38:03 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
There's no reported death via the vaccine or any serious long term effects except due to external factors like bodily modification, so might as well just take it.

I mean there hasn't been any real long term effects testing with how fast the vaccine came out. Though the crazies that think that the vaccine hasn't been tested at all till now are crazy.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 9:40:09 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
I mean there hasn't been any real long term effects testing with how fast the vaccine came out. Though the crazies that think that the vaccine hasn't been tested at all till now are crazy.

The long term effects are the things that scare me but the data seems to show that fear isnt warranted.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
12/30/20 9:45:14 PM
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Healthy and young people have died. Youre spitting over their graves.

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SergeantGander
12/30/20 9:47:44 PM
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I've been consuming as much radium as possible to maintain my youthful vigor since the late 1890s. Can't wait for Radium-infused water to hit the scene and be touted by medical professionals in the Roaring 20s, gonna be lit.

Cmon kid, get with the times they're not humans, they're experts!!

Edit: hang on guys i think I'm dying

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hockeybub89
12/30/20 9:50:02 PM
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SergeantGander posted...
I've been consuming as much radium as possible to maintain my youthful vigor since the late 1890s. Can't wait for Radium-infused water to hit the scene and be touted by medical professionals in the Roaring 20s, gonna be lit.

Cmon kid, get with the times they're not humans, they're experts!!
So I take it you avoid doctors? I mean, they know nothing more than you or I and they're just guessing every time.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 9:51:41 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Healthy and young people have died. Youre spitting over their graves.

Bro. Its been less than 24 hours since we have administered them. I questioned it and decided to get it before 24 hours have passed. That is hardly spitting on their grave. Quit being over dramatic

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hockeybub89
12/30/20 9:51:54 PM
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SergeantGander posted...
The difference is they're all real people you're talking to face to face.

Not a bunch of weirdos on the internet that are so stuck in their polarized views they actually call you an anti-vaxxer for being hesitant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_hesitancy?wprov=sfla1

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kingdrake2
12/30/20 9:54:06 PM
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NathanX95 posted...
Lol, sucks for the hospital workers and elderly who are gonna be the guinea pigs for the vaccine.


it's proven safe.... there was one incident but that was due to a ignorant nurse giving 5 doses of vaccine at the same time. cant listen to "gremlin" donald trump trying to sabotage us by using herd immunity and saying the vaccine wont stop the corona symptoms.

fuck him and fuck section 226 or whichever shit they're trying to censor.
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Drug_Smoker
12/30/20 9:55:27 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
it's proven safe.... there was one incident but that was due to a ignorant nurse giving 5 doses of vaccine at the same time. cant listen to "gremlin" donald trump trying to sabotage us by using herd immunity and saying the vaccine wont stop the corona.

fuck him and fuck section 226 or whichever shit they're trying to censor.

I mean if they didn't account for people being incompetent then there could be more problems. Because incompetency is running rampant.


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SergeantGander
12/30/20 9:59:18 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So I take it you avoid doctors? I mean, they know nothing more than you or I and they're just guessing every time.

Tbh can't remember last time I was at the doctor.

Had a shoulder injury this year. Thought about going to get checked out, but just did some research and designed a therapy program for myself and I'm all good now! Saved a bunch of $$$ too.

Doctors aren't stupid, but they certainly aren't infallible either.

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hockeybub89
12/30/20 10:00:09 PM
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Drug_Smoker posted...
I mean if they didn't account for people being incompetent then there could be more problems. Because incompetency is running rampant.
Why would they account for incompetency? Should a car not be street legal because some drivers don't know how to hit the brakes?

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hockeybub89
12/30/20 10:04:36 PM
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SergeantGander posted...
Tbh can't remember last time I was at the doctor.

Had a shoulder injury this year. Thought about going to get checked out, but just did some research and designed a therapy program for myself and I'm all good now! Saved a bunch of $$$ too.

Doctors aren't stupid, but they certainly aren't infallible either.
How can you trust your research? The sources aren't infallible and neither are you.

By and large, experts are experts because they actually know what they're talking about. Doing research makes it pretty easy to separate science from "science". You just want to justify your preconceived notions. No one is more biased than one's self.

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Drug_Smoker
12/30/20 10:19:05 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Should a car not be street legal because some drivers don't know how to hit the brakes?

A car is not street legal without accounting for incompetency. They are called seat belts.


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Scripts
12/30/20 10:23:32 PM
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its probably because its better for everyone to take it at different times instead of everyone taking it all at once and something happens.

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DepreceV2
12/30/20 10:26:37 PM
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Drug_Smoker posted...
A car is not street legal without accounting for incompetency. They are called seat belts.

You cant account for all incompetency though. Seat belts arent the only thing.

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BilalPowell
12/30/20 10:28:42 PM
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I'll fly down there and take it for double the expenses of getting there and back.

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Vermander
12/30/20 10:36:48 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Being afraid or skeptical of it is so god damned moronic


Is it though? The last vaccine took a decade to make and had long term trials.
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Monolith1676
12/30/20 11:02:57 PM
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Being slightly skeptical is healthy. Accepting everything you are told and never questioning everything is downright dumb.

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2Pacavelli
12/31/20 2:39:54 AM
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A patient at the dialysis clinic that my girlfriend works at suggested severe distress from the vaccine that landed them in the emergency room

He suffered a big rise in blood pressure and mental problems after the vaccine. His wine reported him as seeming dazed out of it, and unresponsive after taking the vaccine and he didn't seem the same after taking the vaccine to my girlfriend either

So I don't blame anybody for being sceptical of taking this vaccine so soon

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2Pacavelli
12/31/20 2:42:28 AM
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OnlyTheTruth posted...
But Moderna is 100% fine

I've seen news reports of people suffering hospitalizations from this one as well. A doctor in Boston recently suffered a potentially serious anaphylactic reaction due to the vaccine but fortunately had medicine on hand to deal with it
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Questionmarktarius
12/31/20 2:46:39 AM
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If this is in the US, at-will employment means the hospital can go all "vax or GTFO", give or take whatever union may be involved.
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2Pacavelli
12/31/20 2:58:28 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If this is in the US, at-will employment means the hospital can go all "vax or GTFO", give or take whatever union may be involved.

If everyone rejects then they'll have no staff. And in this Covid envirnoment hospitals are already looking hard for workers and employees
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Jabodie
12/31/20 3:10:55 AM
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I'll reserve my thoughts to avoid being rude.

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Questionmarktarius
12/31/20 3:15:12 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
If everyone rejects then they'll have no staff. And in this Covid environment hospitals are already looking hard for workers and employees
I make my living building websites for nursing schools. There's plenty of replacements coming through.
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