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CM_Ponch
12/28/20 6:55:01 AM
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viewmaster_pi
12/28/20 6:58:01 AM
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hotplate%

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CM_Ponch
12/28/20 7:06:41 AM
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16-BITTER posted...
Ruining your hardware to own some (other) nerds
No, sure that little piece of paper/plastic will protect the system from harm >_>

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SuperShake666
12/28/20 7:14:12 AM
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Does this count as a TAS run?

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WilliamPorygon
12/28/20 7:23:11 AM
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Th3Truth posted...
Since it's using outside hardware isn't that technically cheating



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legendarylemur
12/28/20 7:32:19 AM
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Speedruns usually allow some bugs that the game causes, regardless of outside factors.

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Flauros
12/28/20 7:42:51 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
Speedruns usually allow some bugs that the game causes, regardless of outside factors.
Sometimes.

But i dont think this would be allowed. Just like cartridge tilting and modifying your controller.

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viewmaster_pi
12/28/20 7:45:29 AM
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Flauros posted...
Sometimes.

But i dont think this would be allowed. Just like cartridge tilting and modifying your controller.
i guess there are exceptions. you could mod your controller for super mario kart

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Zikten
12/28/20 8:11:17 AM
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stupid for 2 reasons. bullshit cheat method. and he's fucking up old hardware that isn't being made anymore. there are only so many NES's in the world still
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Musourenka
12/28/20 8:33:40 AM
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Huh. Level cap is 99 and HP/MP maximums are 999?

That seems ... odd.

EDIT: Looks like the Hero is Level 99 and the others are... uh... huh.

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legendarylemur
12/28/20 9:02:43 AM
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Flauros posted...
Sometimes.

But i dont think this would be allowed. Just like cartridge tilting and modifying your controller.
But this is more like there could be a real life non-intentional situation where a console is hot enough to cause this bug. Cartridge tilting absolutely requires some physical mishap, and controller mod has been approved before, sometimes to avoid physical damage to players lol. Would be up to the judges but usually such interesting methods don't get banned

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The_Creep_2020
12/28/20 9:05:02 AM
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Kinda crazy, Id rather not cook my consoles, but sure.

But is it worth it?

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Musourenka
12/28/20 9:05:46 AM
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If it's allowed, it would probably be in its own category.

TAS: Cartridge melting versus no melting, for example.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/28/20 9:08:32 AM
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Why wouldn't this be allowed in any%?

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Frosted_Midna
12/28/20 9:23:42 AM
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Why would anyone WANT to do this?!

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Musourenka
12/28/20 1:04:20 PM
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Frosted_Midna posted...
Why would anyone WANT to do this?!

Think about all those Famicom DQ3 cartridges in the background that might end up melting because of this!

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Kisai
12/28/20 1:08:26 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why wouldn't this be allowed in any%?
It pretty much was already. This was done for RTA in Japan. Can't believe I missed that. ;_;

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weekoldhotdog
12/28/20 1:10:45 PM
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Are they doing the bonus first game world after the final boss is beat? Or are they just racing to the final boss?

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CM_Ponch
12/28/20 8:15:13 PM
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Bump

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Bad_Mojo
12/28/20 8:16:43 PM
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lmao, that's great. How do people even figure this shit out?

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Choco
12/28/20 8:17:59 PM
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wtf lmao

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Mistere Man
12/28/20 8:18:26 PM
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Seriously how the flip was this discovered?

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Tyranthraxus
12/28/20 8:19:20 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Speedruns usually allow some bugs that the game causes, regardless of outside factors.

So is there a speedrun category for skipping straight to the last level in Sonic 3D Blast?

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Kisai
12/28/20 8:22:50 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
So is there a speedrun category for skipping straight to the last level in Sonic 3D Blast?
Maybe. There are some speedrun categories for games where you can do that. Ocarina of Time is one that comes to mind.

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Tyranthraxus
12/29/20 12:39:20 AM
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Kisai posted...
Maybe. There are some speedrun categories for games where you can do that. Ocarina of Time is one that comes to mind.

Ocarina of Time uses a sequence breaking glitch to jump to the final battle. Sonic 3D relies on a mechanical failure to access a level select menu where you can go to any level. It's not quite the same thing.

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Kisai
12/29/20 1:14:51 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Ocarina of Time uses a sequence breaking glitch to jump to the final battle. Sonic 3D relies on a mechanical failure to access a level select menu where you can go to any level. It's not quite the same thing.
I suppose a similar thing is if the cartridge-wiggling glitch for N64 games like GoldenEye somehow allowed you to skip to the end, would that be allowed as its own category? I'm not sure. But what I've noticed from the Japanese speedrunning community is that they don't really have what I'd call consistency. For start times, it can usually be the same, but sometimes there's discrepancies.

Like this year when RiJ showed off Dark Souls Remastered, they started the timer the moment they entered character creation. Astral Chain has a character creator, but they didn't start the timer until they actually started the game after character creation.

And end times vary wildly. Sometimes the end time is at the last input at the game, like what's sort of become standard here in the west. But they have a lot of arbitrary, random end times for different games. Like Kirby's Dream Course's timer keeps counting through the credits, and only stops when Kirby's done spelling out "End" with stars.

So whether the hot plate trick is a legit category for Japan's speedrunning community, or more of a "TAS bot" kind of demonstration like you'd get from GDQ, I'm not sure. Most likely a legit category.

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Bad_Mojo
12/29/20 3:23:03 PM
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