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DoGCyN 12/27/20 1:58:57 PM #1: |
Who is the hardest optional boss/enemy in the FF series? Last topic basically became a nomination topic. Let's get the real votes in
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I should clarify, this counts as the WORST optional boss/enemy. Best Minigame: Triple Triad via FF8 Worst Minigame: Dodging Lightning via FF10 Best Gameplay Mechanics: Set classes and (learnable) abilities via FF4/6/9 Worst Protagonist: Vaan via FF12 Best Cid: Cid Highwind via FF7 Worst Dungeon: The Great Crystal via FF12 Best Soundtrack: OST via FF7 --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 2:02:13 PM #2: |
If you vote Other and don't clarify, then I hope you get a big hole in your sock, whoever you are.
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Seitar 12/27/20 2:03:46 PM #3: |
Shinryu from the GBA version of FF1 and 2
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Ving_Rhames 12/27/20 2:07:29 PM #4: |
Of that list, definitely the OG Static Killer Living Liquid. It forced players who thought they were good to actually push how good they were to the absolute limit, and the majority of them didnt make the cut.
Nowadays the game isnt nearly as brutal, and savage/extreme/unreal content isnt whats killing statics, its toxic casuals and Tank/Healer couples. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 2:08:19 PM #5: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
Of that list, definitely the OG Static Killer Living Liquid. It forced players who thought they were good to actually push how good they were to the absolute limit, and the majority of them didnt make the cut.You think I could still start FF14 and play through it Solo? Or am I too late to the party? --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 12/27/20 2:09:40 PM #6: |
For me it's in IX. It's the only one I haven't beaten up until 12. I never attempted the harder ones in 12, so I can't speak for those.
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Ving_Rhames 12/27/20 2:12:27 PM #7: |
Easily. Its one of those games where its impossible to really fall behind in.
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Reis 12/27/20 2:27:22 PM #8: |
living liquid quite literally killed the raid scene in ff14 for most players up until 3.4 so.....
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 7:19:03 PM #9: |
Lets get some more opinions
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UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 7:20:24 PM #10: |
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 7:26:34 PM #11: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Marlboro FF8He's a hard fucker in that game --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 7:28:05 PM #13: |
DoGCyN posted...
He's a hard fucker in that gameIf you say so Draw cast Demi and he goes down like a bitch He's not even a boss fight. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 12/27/20 7:31:22 PM #14: |
DoGCyN posted...
You think I could still start FF14 and play through it Solo? Or am I too late to the party? Why solo? Most of the story is solo content though with parties for dungeons and stuff. --- Momentai ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 7:44:52 PM #15: |
KainWind posted...
Why solo? Most of the story is solo content though with parties for dungeons and stuff.I dont have any friends to play it with. I just started playing the free trial today though. It's fun so far! More fun than I thought it would be. I also figured I would be playing catch up to all the higher level people and there wouldn't be a lot of people at my newbie level --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 8:29:17 PM #16: |
It's happening
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Kaliesto 12/27/20 8:33:50 PM #17: |
I wouldn't count anything from FF14 and 11 just because the bosses are only hard based on Player competency.
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MallyPureSmooth 12/27/20 8:39:55 PM #18: |
Said it in the other topic and I'll say it again here; FFXII 5 Judges is the hardest battle I've probably ever done in an RPG. There's optional bosses that take forever and then there's ones that rely on finding out their trick. The Judges are just content on making you feel like you don't know shit about RPGs with counter strat after counter strat.
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 8:45:14 PM #19: |
Kaliesto posted...
I wouldn't count anything from FF14 and 11 just because the bosses are only hard based on Player competency.I'd say that applies to most optional bosses in the series. I couldn't beat any of these bosses when I was 9 years old. --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 12/27/20 8:53:40 PM #20: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say so FF8 Malboro is a guaranteed defeat if you encounter one without knowing in advance which status effects to be protected from. It's not tough once you know how to prepare for it but it definitely deserves its reputation, given that pretty much everyone's first experience with it is "oh hey I get to watch my guys stand around blind and confused until they die" --- Meow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 12/27/20 10:29:30 PM #21: |
DoGCyN posted...
I dont have any friends to play it with. I just started playing the free trial today though. It's fun so far! More fun than I thought it would be. Oh yeah, you don't need friends to do anything in the game. Plenty of randos to go around. --- Momentai ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sauceje 12/27/20 10:33:18 PM #22: |
KainWind posted...
Oh yeah, you don't need friends to do anything in the game. Plenty of randos to go around.Heck with how many limitations there are on free trial players it's legitimately hard to make friends as one --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/27/20 10:47:25 PM #23: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say soIts not that simple. If you don't have the status protection, it's a 100% lose scenario. That makes him a very annoying enemy to encounter. This isn't the same Marlboro from the other games --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 9:45:30 AM #24: |
We currently have a tie. Lets get some more votes in
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 9:47:59 AM #25: |
If Yiazmat wins this, then that gives us 3 of the worst things in FF12 alone. Kind of hurts considering it's 100x a better game in and of itself than FF13 and FF15.
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Tyranthraxus 12/28/20 9:53:06 AM #26: |
mattymad posted...
Well I'll be... Absolute Virtue. What a time it was to watch people wipe to that. Or exploit something that'd get patched. They never did figure it out. The devs eventually released a tutorial video on the mechanics and then later changed those mechanics and nerfed him. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 9:56:43 AM #27: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
They never did figure it out. The devs eventually released a tutorial video on the mechanics and then later changed those mechanics and nerfed him.I think I remember watching a video on this --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FF_Redux 12/28/20 10:11:09 AM #28: |
AV. It was insane how the real strat for it would be. It was insane even when you glitched it.
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 10:15:10 AM #29: |
That was not the comeback I was expecting
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Tyranthraxus 12/28/20 10:18:10 AM #30: |
FF_Redux posted...
AV. It was insane how the real strat for it would be. It was insane even when you glitched it. The real strat for it was "kill these specific adds within a specific time window" it wasn't hard and modern MMOs have much more difficult mechanics. The problem is that there was nothing to indicate that the adds were healing AV and nothing to indicate that you had to kill them at a specific time. When people glitched it they thought that was the real strategy and never bothered to investigate it further. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 12/28/20 11:02:17 AM #31: |
Sorry, but I had to vote Other: Chac from FF X-2. No FF boss has ever managed to infect me with such passionate hatred as Chac, and for the life of me I can't fathom how people can beat her without cheesing the system with Congrats or Trigger Happy + Catnip (and even with the latter it boiled down to luck of the draw).
I probably would've voted Emerald Weapon otherwise, since I died to him a lot when I was young and felt genuinely shout-out-loud triumphant when I finally managed to beat him. Yiazmat is more of a stamina test than anything; even though he does ramp things up considerably in the remaining five million HP, I've beaten him on three separate playthroughs and was only killed by him once iirc. Ozma, iirc, is a luck-of-the-draw boss - either he cheeses you right out of the gate with insurmountable status ailments, or you beat him in a few rounds. FF8's Omega Weapon is one of those weird bosses that actually got harder as time went on; I beat him without effort the first couple of times, but in later playthroughs he always seemed to catch me with his insta-party-kill attack right when my Holy Wars wore off, and I figured he wasn't worth the effort to fight again. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 12:03:21 PM #32: |
masterpug53 posted...
Sorry, but I had to vote OtherNo need to be sorry. Vote for who you believe the title belongs to! --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 12:03:43 PM #33: |
Ends at 50 votes unless we have a tie
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Tyranthraxus 12/28/20 12:10:13 PM #34: |
masterpug53 posted...
Sorry, but I had to vote Other: Chac from FF X-2. No FF boss has ever managed to infect me with such passionate hatred as Chac, and for the life of me I can't fathom how people can beat her without cheesing the system with Congrats or Trigger Happy + Catnip (and even with the latter it boiled down to luck of the draw). I 777'd the whole end of that dungeon it was literally the most reliable way to win. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 12:24:11 PM #35: |
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philsov 12/28/20 12:40:45 PM #36: |
FF5's shinryu, imo
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Zaltera 12/28/20 1:08:12 PM #37: |
DoGCyN posted...
Its not that simple. If you don't have the status protection, it's a 100% lose scenario. That makes him a very annoying enemy to encounter. This isn't the same Marlboro from the other games By the third disc when you start encountering these things, if you don't have basic status protection on at least one character, what have you been doing? Even without Marlboros there are still other enemies that use berserk, petrification, confusion, and so on. --- Why is it that he can hit a 3rd baseman on a frozen rope from 300 feet away, but he can't hit a 12 foot tall catcher from 60 feet 6 inches away? -Awesomeo_4000 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vermander 12/28/20 1:10:47 PM #38: |
Seitar posted...
Shinryu from the GBA version of FF1 and 2 This can be cheesed entirely iirc. --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 "Blue has the most anti-oxygens." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/28/20 1:11:33 PM #39: |
Vermander posted...
This can be cheesed entirely iirc. Fighting it legitimately is super hard though. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 3:20:16 PM #40: |
Zaltera posted...
By the third disc when you start encountering these things, if you don't have basic status protection on at least one character, what have you been doing? Even without Marlboros there are still other enemies that use berserk, petrification, confusion, and so on.You can beat the entire game without having to worry about status effects. It's generally a very easy final fantasy. That being said, this was the first, and pretty much the only battle, that I had to equip anything to ST-DEF --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 12/28/20 3:23:33 PM #41: |
Sad no one mentioned The Brachiosaur from FF6
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Bad_Mojo 12/28/20 3:28:26 PM #43: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say so I agree. Joke fight --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 12/28/20 3:40:04 PM #44: |
Wondering if I should give it till like 5 or 6pm
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masterpug53 12/28/20 3:58:50 PM #46: |
Veggeta X posted...
Sad no one mentioned The Brachiosaur from FF6 I guess if FF8's Malboro made the cut, good ol' Brachosaur should have gotten his chance to shine. The Kaiser Dragon added in the Advanced version onward should get mention as well; he hits hard and actually has enough HP to tank your best Offering and / or Genji Glove setup. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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