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Solar_Crimson
12/02/20 4:01:38 PM
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Most Western media portray him as an old man with long grey hair and a beard wearing a robe, and his face may or may not be visible (because according to the Bible, looking upon his face is instant dead for living beings).

In SMT, though...




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armandro
12/02/20 4:06:26 PM
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pretty cool seems like a bunch of stars

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Prestoff
12/02/20 4:11:32 PM
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A bit more respectful than South Parks depiction lol.

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Solar_Crimson
12/02/20 4:15:03 PM
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Prestoff posted...
A bit more respectful than South Parks depiction lol.
Just wait until you see him in action, though.

He's a diabolical tyrant who wants to get rid of free will and have everyone mindlessly worship him for all eternity. In the games that he actually appear in, he's the final boss.

His most recent appearance in SMT4: Apocalypse also has him brought down to demonhood after the characters reject him, and he's transformed into this:


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g0ldie
12/02/20 4:20:14 PM
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if Shrek had a stern father, I imagine him looking like the first one.

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FL81
12/02/20 4:21:02 PM
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Kinda goofy looking >_>

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ElatedVenusaur
12/02/20 4:25:56 PM
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I love the design and the fact that you basically roast God is hilarious.

I dont like what they do with Lucifer in 4A at all though.
Him being as much a pawn of YHVH as Merkabeh is lame as hell. The very first game had a much better interpretation: that Lucifer is the part of YHVH that YHVH rejects. It even explains why both are usually so extreme.

Really, the only SMT game I can think of where God isnt atotalitarian turbodick is Devil Survivor(the first one), and even then...
Dont know how Digital Devil Saga fits in, if at all, but maybe that counts too.
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Irony
12/02/20 4:44:41 PM
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Giant head cool

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Killmonger
12/02/20 4:46:06 PM
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Evil Homer Simpson.

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Solar_Crimson
12/02/20 5:36:15 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
I dont like what they do with Lucifer in 4A at all though.
Him being as much a pawn of YHVH as Merkabeh is lame as hell. The very first game had a much better interpretation: that Lucifer is the part of YHVH that YHVH rejects. It even explains why both are usually so extreme.
Yeah, as much of an improvement mechanically that SMT4A was, I don't like what it did with its story. I also feel that YHVH's first major appearance in over two decades is wasted in it, and would have probably been better suited for the upcoming SMT5.

ElatedVenusaur posted...
Really, the only SMT game I can think of where God isnt atotalitarian turbodick is Devil Survivor(the first one), and even then...
Yeah, the original version of Devil Survivor made him out to be a decent guy for once, but then the 8th Days in Overclocked reveal that he's actually not so nice after all, as he specifically set up the Cain & Abel scenario to create the world's first murderer and first martyr, and also so Abel's soul could go to Hell to absorb some of Bel's power to keep Bel from challenging him.

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coh
12/02/20 5:36:54 PM
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Sounds like a dumb series
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coh
12/02/20 5:37:35 PM
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Also I like Futurama's depiction of God the best
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Solar_Crimson
12/02/20 5:38:44 PM
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coh posted...
Sounds like a dumb series
It's a Japanese RPG series that plays loose with the world's mythologies to create its own narrative. Some put it off better than others, but it's a pretty solid series.

The Persona games also spawned from it.

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Alteres
12/02/20 5:40:20 PM
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coh posted...
Also I like Futurama's depiction of God the best
anything at all...

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ElatedVenusaur
12/02/20 7:16:27 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Yeah, as much of an improvement mechanically that SMT4A was, I don't like what it did with its story. I also feel that YHVH's first major appearance in over two decades is wasted in it, and would have probably been better suited for the upcoming SMT5.

Yeah, the original version of Devil Survivor made him out to be a decent guy for once, but then the 8th Days in Overclocked reveal that he's actually not so nice after all, as he specifically set up the Cain & Abel scenario to create the world's first murderer and first martyr, and also so Abel's soul could go to Hell to absorb some of Bel's power to keep Bel from challenging him.
Even that's defensible. Literally all the other Bels see humans as no more than pawns at best or pests to be exterminated at worst, and the power of Bel is great enough to actually threaten YHVH, as established in the 8th day of Naoya's Ending, so having a Human Bel gives humanity a chance. Sucks to be Cain and Abel in this instance, of course. And the Kingdom of God as depicted on the 8th day gives humans ultimate agency in upholding YHVH's will, a far sight better than the Eastern Kingdom of Mikado, for instance. Still by far the best YHVH.
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Southernfatman
12/02/20 7:17:41 PM
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Mr. Clean is god?

Seriously though it's interesting. The whole series sounds interesting really. Yahweh seems more like a villain if you think about it.

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ZeroX91
12/02/20 7:19:51 PM
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More biblically accurate than most modern Christan inturpretations.

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