Current Events > Cop: 'Lawyers have years to go over decisions we had seconds to make.'

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Heard some cop say it the other day and it got me thinking

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so what? if you fucked up you fucked up just like everyone else.

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Law school takes 4-8 years and cop school takes 4-6 months.

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Where is the "partly" option?


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"lawyers also have years of education compared to the months you took"

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there's no sentiment. it's just a fact.

Those seconds can affect the lives of innocent people for years. Or worse, end them.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

"lawyers also have years of education compared to the months you took"

https://youtu.be/PTqtrGBYpxQ

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That cop could of passed another test to become a cop for how long he had to think about what he was doing to George Floyd.

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pinky0926 posted...

Law school takes 4-8 years and cop school takes 4-6 months.

Do you think requiring more time learning to be a police officer would make a difference? I really don't know but I'm trending toward probably not :/ but maybe!?

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MorbidFaithless posted...

Do you think requiring more time learning to be a police officer would make a difference? I really don't know but I'm trending toward probably not :/ but maybe!?

As part of broader reforms yes.

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Teach cops better no need to empty clips into people one bullet will usually stop a person

MorbidFaithless posted...

Do you think requiring more time learning to be a police officer would make a difference? I really don't know but I'm trending toward probably not :/ but maybe!?

With training as it exists now, probably not. If anything the training is part of the problem.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

if you can't make split second decisions well then you probably shouldn't be a cop

I think that's the whole poor schooling thing. They obviously never learn that part. If anything, this is an argument for why they shouldn't all have guns.

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so do doctors sometimes. but doctors still lose their jobs sometimes if they fuck up. cops get protected if they fuck up

Nobody is forcing you to be a cop, if you can't handle the responsibility and repercussions then go find a different similar job. Like being in the mob or maybe just a street gang.

Blightzkrieg posted...

With training as it exists now, probably not. If anything the training is part of the problem.

That's my thought as well. I feel that's why defunding the police is the only real option. Fewer cops who only are activated when there is an actual, immediate threat to humans. Use the leftover resources to invest in local communities and hire trained counselors, specializing in the actual needs of the situation, and crisis management professionals.

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MorbidFaithless posted...

That's my thought as well. I feel that's why defunding the police is the only real option. Fewer cops who only are activated when there is an actual, immediate threat to humans. Use the leftover resources to invest in local communities and hire trained counselors, specializing in the actual needs of the situation, and crisis management professionals.

Yeah. A lot of the "throw more money at the problem" solutions, notably additional training and body cams, are not shown to have a notable affect on police behaviour.

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We do the same to doctors in malpractice suits. I don't see why a decision being made in seconds matters if that decision doesn't match up with the (ostensible) standards of your profession.

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lol. What decision? They just take out their fun and shoot people the moment they feel any stress. Oh yea, big decisions you guys have to make!

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Soldiers are in the same boat and they have much stricter rules of engagement.

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DrizztLink posted...

Soldiers are in the same boat and they have much stricter rules of engagement.

If you say so

The most recent soldier who sadistically murdered a bunch of people for no reason got pardoned by Trump for no reason

Most don't even get diciplined.

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Something only a literal murderer and rapist would say.
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The people they police also have to make split second decisions, often in disorienting situations and when receiving conflicting or impossible directions. The police don't seem to have much empathy for the public, while they expect infinite empathy from us.

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For me, it's not owning up to the mistakes you make that's the problem. Is that too hard especially cops who are held to a much higher standard than normal people?

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Guns_of_Verdun posted...

If you say so

The most recent soldier who sadistically murdered a bunch of people for no reason got pardoned by Trump for no reason

Most don't even get diciplined.

Yes. Trump is a racist idiot. We know.

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gonna go with bullshit on that. the point of training is to know how to act in situations before they come up -- to know the right decision when things actually happen.

that and it's a hard sell that a lot of them aren't acting out the decisions they've already made, that they've been waiting to enact.
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And yet, citizenry are expected to always have better self taught training whenever they have to deal with a cop. They arent allowed to fear for the life, they arent allowed to make any mistakes whatsoever.

Cops hanging up you in a case of mistaken identity? Too bad, just roll over and hope you dont die so you can settle later while those psychos remain on the force.

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pinky0926 posted...

Law school takes 4-8 years and cop school takes 4-6 months.

Dumb comparison. And besides in the police academy you can get dq'd for a number or reasons, one being if you fail 2 tests out of the 25 they give, even after those 6 months you're on probation for 2 years.

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Uhh...that's why you properly prepare for those kinds of decisions. You don't just wing it.

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M_Live posted...

If our military can be trained in de-escalation, use warning shots etc. There's no excuse that our fucking police can't

warning shots ? i think those are a bit dangerous on urban areas

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Fam_Fam posted...

there's no sentiment. it's just a fact.

This, really. I mean I get the conveyance behind the OP, but lawyers have years to go over decisions that everyone has seconds to make.

Still a poor blanket excuse for any given cop's mistake.

*fails test*
'i only had seconds to study'
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...

If you say so

The most recent soldier who sadistically murdered a bunch of people for no reason got pardoned by Trump for no reason

Most don't even get diciplined.

That's one guy.

marc55 posted...

warning shots ? i think those are a bit dangerous on urban areas

Whoops

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CheckmateD1 posted...

This, really. I mean I get the conveyance behind the OP, but lawyers have years to go over decisions that everyone has seconds to make.

Not really?

If you sign a contract or commit fraud or write a poorly written will, that's decisions made with forethought over time.

If a guy has a gun to his wife's head and screams that he is about to pull the trigger and blow her brains out and the cop on scene has a clear shot. He literally only has a few seconds to weigh up what action to take.

Any hesitiation or consideration risks it being too late. What if the guy does shoot his wife while the cop is standing there like a lemon thinking?

What if the cop shoots and the guy's gun ends up not being loaded? Or a toy? or the guy is revealed to have mental disorders?

What if the cop shoots, misses and hits the wife?

What if the cop tries to talk the guy down and succeeds and everyone walks away alive?

If he tries to talk, what should he say?

The cop only has a second to process all of this and act.

That's not true of a guy undercutting his employee's pensions.

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