Board 8 > Fuck 2020 Mafia - Topic 5: OMG RBG WTF

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Supreme Court (16):
1) banananor
2) Dark_Young_Link
3) DoubleTangicide
4) dowolf
5) Fastbreak
6) Hbthebattle
7) htaeD
8) IfGodCouldDie
9) Johnbobb
10) Leanansidhe
11) MajinZidane
12) masterplum
13) MysteriousStan
14) pjbasis
15) PunishedBen
16) turbopuns3

Food Court (5):
LD1 - red13n: Essential workers and the cool new hat their CEO gave them for endangering their grandparents, TOWN Vanilla
KN1 - Chris: Kobe Bryant, TOWN Gambler
KN1 - Crescent: Sean Connery, TOWN Vanilla
KN1 - Aecioo: Ruth Bader Ginsburg, TOWN Daycop
KN1 - Han: Herman Cain, TOWN Dead Man That Wont Stop Tweeting (After death talker)

IT IS NOW DAY! DAY 2 ENDS AT 8 PM CST ON FRIDAY!

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Hmm

I'm trying to figure out some of these deaths and what team makes these calls and what the makeup can be. But I think that I am thinking that the team may be something like

Puns, Battle, Plum, Lea

And I am completely throwing this out because the kills included Aeicoo and Han but not me, and I dont know how Crescent fits into this

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Dowolf has strong han fear too

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Posting here now.

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Still 43 days left until 2020 is over (Votals)
Puns [4]: Lea, IGCD, plum, Scare
Scare [2]: Tange, Johnbobb
Tange [1]: (Johnbobb), Stan, (banananaor)


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Morning
Cant catch up right now, since I have another zoom meeting in 10 minutes I need to prepare for...
Glad to see DYL is townconfirmed, not glad to see everything else.
Mostly I just wanted to post to say I didnt get corona as far as I know.
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htaeD posted...

Glad to see DYL is townconfirmed,

so Im drunk do I might be fuzzy on the details

but how is he,

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DoubleTangicide posted...

so Im drunk do I might be fuzzy on the details

but how is he,

Chris said he gambled on him.

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That

The conclusion might have been a bit fuzzier if less people died tonight, but I think the odds of 4 kills going out in one night and DYL being a BPlike role at the same time are pretty negligible.
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Tange is a good target. Didnt like his end of day. Not a big fan of the scare lynch right now. Ive liked his posts and he is the type of person I would expect to draw attention to himself

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Done with work and stuff and in the middle of my catch-up, but I didnt want this question to get lost in a bigger post, so..

Leanansidhe posted...

The dowolf special is v tempting, but it'll be really annoying to not resolve this red thing at this point

One Chrisvote later.

Leanansidhe posted...

##unvote:
##vote: HB

Lea what happened to wanting to resolve Red?
I was also curious why you even mentioned your temptation if you did not even care about lynching dowolf?
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ScareChan posted...

Dowolf has strong han fear too

lol no?
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Anyway my revaluation of day1's end, which I am sure is mostly just things other people have already recapped and commented on.

DYL being town means I can throw half of my notes out too!
Yesterday I felt HB was more likely to be town than Red was, and also his lynch came out of nowhere so I didnt like it anyway.
And while I was wrong about Red, HB handled himself well througout the night so I am still okay with calling him town for now.
I dont see what makes his role inherently scummy either, its a Gladiator type deal where the role can fit town just as easily as scum.

That does make it harder to analyze everyone around if it was town/town/town. Though DYL really wasnt on the table at the end anymore.
If anything scum might only have cared to engage once HB claimed his role and his target. So I took a look around there.

Dowolf was the first one to vote HB, but I dont know why he'd rock the boat at that point if he was scum.
Dowolf later asks for more info from HB, which is understandable. The claim doesnt seem to move him either. I dont find him supersuspicious over all.

Boko agreed with Dowolf and later votes HB but takes it back when he realized whats happening. He's alright.

Puns is kinda in the same boat as Dowolf, when he goes for Puns with his splintervote.
It just makes him look bad with nothing to gain in return. I thought he voted Dowolf because of the HBvote, but that does not seem to be the case.
If anything Puns not weighing in on Red VS HB is the part that makes him look worse.

Lea was tempted by the dowolf diversion but mentioned wanting to resolve Red.
But everything shifted towards HB instead when Chris sprung his trap. IGCD sheeped the vote, which is par the IGCD norm. But I do not like IGCD for doing it regardless.
Lea also drops her vote on HB despite what she said earlier. See my question above.

Scare defends HB, saying he'd already claimed confirmable beforehand. I think he stayed in character throughout and looks decent now.

Plum seems ambivalent and confused. Then calls HB scum after the claim but does not vote because he wants to stay the course on red.
I have no strong feelings about Plum as of yet either way.

Bens vote on HB is bad. Not just because it reads like how I see a scum would react to a powerclaim, but also because of his silence beforehand. Even if he explains his vote later on, it comes across as tonally different from his initial reaction. He's probably the one I like the least on this lot.
....Is what I would have said if Tange didn't have an equally bad vote afterwards and with no explanation at all. And that makes me torn since I don't expect two scums to drop terrible votes down if they could get a dead town in Red too anyway.

But I shouldnt forget the ones who stayed on the sidelines. Like Johnbobb, who did absolutely nothing despite being around, having no votes down and stating he didnt like the HB train.
Stan comments that the claim was fast, a rather useless observation this close to deadline but he voiced not liking either lynch. A fair possibility, but it stops me from seeing as anything more than neutral.
Bananana also kept his vote on a splinter, but I am a little forgiving on that since he is new(ish?). I need to read his posts from today to get a better bead on him.

In summary, I think 2 scum at least are in that rectangle of Ben/John/Puns/Tange somewhere. PJBasis didnt even show up and could easily be scum too.

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Btw an SK has to exist at this point, so what are we thinking for scumnumbers?
5+1?
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Sup people

Well done chris

So it's been 1 day and 1 night, and we have 5 dead at least 4 sick? >_>

During the night I have concluded that Dowolf is probably NOT SCUM after all. Upon an iso of him I can read all his goofy melodrama and I can tell he's just being himself. The exploding into confetti comment was what got to me so I went back and looked him over.

Han, happy to have you. To me it looks like you thought I was scum because I didn't give you a day 1 pass? That's pretty much what I take from your comments.

Lea as a matter of fact the last time we did this it was not correct and the same is true again. So it is important that we talk this time but actually. I am pretty sure you said a bit ago you didn't really read my posts or like didn't remember them or something along those lines. It would probably do you some good to read them, I've been quite studious despite my sparseness!

6+1 with SK probably, but I question why you think a SK has to exist. Its not certain and the last thing I need is cornered scum who knows there is no SK claiming SK and having to go through my never trust the SK routine.

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I am just going for the simplest explanation.
I figured town wouldnt have a vig and a gambler at the same time, and I dont see how scum could be responsible for 3 deaths in one night either.
Admittedly, the Corona thing already makes matters sound 'not simple'.
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Vig + gambler is unlikely, but gambler + jack with a shot is possible.

Why the hell a jack would shoot N1 I have no idea, but Corrik counter claimed cop as town vanilla so I have seen worse plays

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I guess what Im saying is it is probable, but I immediately concerned that you are saying it has to exist. I dont know why we are going down that road

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Fair enough, we should not start SKhunting all of the sudden.
I just got a little bit worried about the whole 4 deaths and disease and all.

It also makes me think things like ways in which that 25 % could have become infected.
Though the likely answer there is just that a certain number of players were selected at night.
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Puns, answer my question from the previous topic

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I would argue that I would be me regardless of alignment.

I have tried not being me. It does not go well.

I also don't think there has to be an SK here. Chris presumably offed himself, Moon could've been a town vig or jack, scum could've had a bonus kill they spent n1.
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dowolf posted...

I would argue that I would be me regardless of alignment.

I have tried not being me. It does not go well.

I also don't think there has to be an SK here. Chris presumably offed himself, Moon could've been a town vig or jack, scum could've had a bonus kill they spent n1.

Why do you think town had an extra kill on top of a gambler

How the hell am I the only one in the game that expected vote stuffer over vig

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I dont even remember what a votestuffer is.
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htaeD posted...

Bens vote on HB is bad. Not just because it reads like how I see a scum would react to a powerclaim, but also because of his silence beforehand. Even if he explains his vote later on, it comes across as tonally different from his initial reaction. He's probably the one I like the least on this lot.
....Is what I would have said if Tange didn't have an equally bad vote afterwards and with no explanation at all. And that makes me torn since I don't expect two scums to drop terrible votes down if they could get a dead town in Red too anyway.

No I didnt see HB's claim yet when I voted. I switched to HB because 1. The train I tried to start on you didnt go anywhere, and 2. Chris changed to HB and I'm a sucker for last second chris lynches. I think the last thing I read before voting HB was Crescent saying she also thought HB was scummy which pushed me over the edge to want to kill Hb over Red. Then after i voted, i saw his claim and was even more confident. Plus i love stirring up end of day drama to look back on after the fact. It's just too bad only scum are flipped.

Also your whole post and who you dont like assumes HB is town. Why is that?

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*only town are flipped

or maybe it was supposed to be

*no scum are flipped

Who knows! But you get the idea

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dowolf posted...

Moon could've been a town vig or jack

Why would a town player shoot effectively-confirmed-town Crescent-Moon?

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Also your whole post and who you dont like assumes HB is town. Why is that?

That explanation is at the top of the post, Ben.

But okay that explains the tonal dissonance from before and after. Though it doesn't make your vote look that much better.
Granted if HB is scum, my entire opinion there flips around yes. Heck if HB is scum, than Johnbobb and Puns look slightly better for not trying to save him.

But that leads me to thoughts like 'should we lynch HB first?' and that doesnt sound smart.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Why would a town player shoot effectively-confirmed-town Crescent-Moon?

How can he even know who killed who? Did I miss something?
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I would bet a very ugly penny that scum isn't going to kill the person who ended the tiebreaker.
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dowolf posted...

I would bet a very ugly penny that scum isn't going to kill the person who ended the tiebreaker.

That's an awful lot of assumption about what scum is going to do. Then you have to ask, why would scum kill Aecioo?

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dowolf posted...

I would bet a very ugly penny that scum isn't going to kill the person who ended the tiebreaker.

I do wonder how much of what HB and Chris said to each other influenced scum.
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Like, dowolf, did you think Cres looked scummy at the end of the day? I don't understand how you think she had to have been a kill by a town member.

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IGCD, whats your deal with me anyway? If you're town then you're misreading me. If you're scum then please explain your reasoning to the class

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I thought she was town, if that's what you're asking.

Obvious reason for shooting Aecioo is that he kept calling DYL scum all day long and DYL is scum but here we are.
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dowolf posted...

Obvious reason for shooting Aecioo is that he kept calling DYL scum all day long and DYL is scum but here we are.

There were several people doing that, though.

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I'm pretty sure everyone else who voted DYL commented on at least one other person :)
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okay, as promised. apparently i was overworried about people piling on, thought i was vote 3 out of 7

##Vote: Tange

i think the 3 front runners- puns, scare, and tange- are probably the best options for reasons already listed, but Tange is the correct first choice, and the votal list kind of confirms that for me

actually
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79117672/947293724
i feel like i'm getting sucked into a wifom, but both crescent and han dying feels weird when they were both targeting pun

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dowolf posted...

I'm pretty sure everyone else who voted DYL commented on at least one other person :)

I don't understand how you still get to "this means they must have shot Aecioo" from this. Are you suggesting scum figured out he was a daycop?

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Wait why do people not like Scare? I see one of them is confirmed town johnbob so that's fine he's just misguided, but i must have missed why you think he's a good option, Bananaboy?

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Banananor is pretty obvious town to me.

Death i mentioned the quick claim because the train on HB had barely started and he had his claim already to go. I don't think HB had enough pressure on him throughout the day to prepare a claim in advance so it struck me as town. Granted, if his role is a scum role then that's really all he could claim so he'd have it regardless. But in the moment I wasn't thinking that was a scum role at all.

PunishedBen posted...

Wait why do people not like Scare? I see one of them is confirmed town johnbob so that's fine he's just misguided, but i must have missed why you think he's a good option, Bananaboy?

Why us johnbobb confirmed town?

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Fastbreak posted...

Why is johnbobb confirmed town?

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PunishedBen posted...

Wait why do people not like Scare? I see one of them is confirmed town johnbob so that's fine he's just misguided, but i must have missed why you think he's a good option, Bananaboy?

i didn't list it this time because i did so before. but i'll recap- a few reasons, some similar to tange. i might go back and quote my past analysis because i 100% posted it before

in summary, he had a vote lead yesterday that magically evaporated and moved onto town, he sheeped chris pretty badly, is continuing that pattern today. granted, this time with 99% confirmed town, and his tone is slightly better so i'm not as solid on him as i am on tange

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Fastbreak posted...

Why us johnbobb confirmed town?

His response early day 1 to my fishing when he said his flavor was a dead person. The first person to do that is always town every time, so.

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And I'm yelled at every time for believing that too

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also before lunch is over

Dark Young Link posted... You play Town of Salem too eh?

yep. it's been a hot minute, but back in the day i enjoyed that and epicmafia. they were quick and far, far, less commitment than forum games. i stopped because bots were spamming every game

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PunishedBen posted...

And I'm yelled at every time for believing that too

I had jb town too but I wouldn't call him confirmed

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puns you are accused of being scum for your voting pattern at the end of day, what do you have to say for yourself

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Lea, my question.
Look at it please.
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