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NFUN 11/25/20 11:44:41 PM #51: |
3 > 4 > 1 > 2
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CassandraCain 11/26/20 12:16:29 PM #52: |
Who the heck would rank WoR last
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CoolCly 11/26/20 12:44:52 PM #53: |
I put it lower in my tier list I posted earlier too, because I just whipped it up based on impressions that came to mind right away, and my strongest impressions of the Stormlight Archive are without question Kaladins bridge running in The Way of Kings and Dalinar's arc in Oathbringer. That's god tier stuff. I couldn't actually remember anything that happened in Words of Radiance. There's not much from that book that I'm not completely certain might have happened in Way of Kings or Oathbringer....
But reflecting on it later, I actually am pretty sure I thought Words of Radiance was much better than Way of Kings in general at the time. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 11/26/20 12:46:43 PM #54: |
CassandraCain posted...
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/26/20 1:00:08 PM #55: |
WoR does a lot of heavy lifting on the character front since both Kalladin and Shallan have super satisfying arcs in it. A lot of the personality of the series starts being on full display here. Shallan especially goes from a snarky excuse for exposition dumps in book 1 to an actual character in book 2. Adolin also stops being a total fuckboi and starts coming into his own. Dalinar is the only one without a ton of development and that's because he gets such great arcs in books 1 and 3.
The standout moments for me are the duel and the anime as FUCK final battles. The first fight against Szeth is pretty good too. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/26/20 1:20:35 PM #56: |
Oh and for that matter the worldbuilding improves substantially in WoR. Stormlight as a series involves tearing down or playing with a bunch of outdated fantasy tropes but TWoK has to do the setup by playing it all straight, with only a hint of self-awareness. Book 2 is where he starts the actual work.
Ending book 1 on the twist that "the slaves were the evil voidbringers all along!" is a HUGE fucking yikes, for instance, which in book 2 Sanderson takes a sledgehammer to with the Eshonai interludes --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MikeTavish 11/26/20 7:08:17 PM #57: |
@HeroDelTiempo17 Might wanna spoiler tag that stuff.
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ExThaNemesis 11/27/20 3:24:04 AM #58: |
Oh my god the chapter interludes where Navani talks about what different metals do to the spren in the fabrials.
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CassandraCain 11/27/20 10:27:51 AM #59: |
Looks like I'm joining the Kindle club. Thought I wanted to stick with traditional physical copies but after reading Dawnshard on my phone it has occurred to me that it's much more convenient and comfortable. It's tough to find a good reading position when handling a 20 pound book. Plus I don't mind spending extra money on Sanderson's work, I'll still likely get the physicals just to have them.
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Yankees 11/27/20 11:46:31 AM #60: |
I'm mostly kindle these days, but I get physical copies of the Stormlight books. I never liked reading on the phone although the paperwhite is nice
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CassandraCain 11/27/20 1:37:58 PM #61: |
Yeah the paperwhite is what I just ordered, not about to read an entire book on my phone.
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CoolCly 11/27/20 2:05:58 PM #62: |
This is a bit of tangent, but I've been thinking about getting an ereader for a while now, not out of preference but due to the cost and logistics of storing all the books I have. Paperbacks are $10-25 and hardcovers are usually $25-50, and take up a lot of space. I either have boxes, bookshelves full of them, or even a pile of books in a corner. I have a lot of books I want to read, and physically buying them all just doesn't seem feasible. Libraries don't interest me much since I hate reading on a deadline. I enjoy having my own "library" of sorts but I think the reality is that I can't keep a physical copy of every book I read, maybe just the ones I really like.
So an ereader seems like a good option. Much cheaper per book and takes up no physical space. I can pick up books on sale to read sometime down the line very easily too. I vaguely know "Kindle" is basically synonymous with ereader, but does that make them the best game in town? Is there model differences? How long before Ereaders "age out" and you need a newer up to date one? I'm also concerned about compatibility. I've heard some ereaders can only read books from their own first party library. I'd want something that can read it no mattter where I acquired it from, whether its just a pdf i have or bought on amazon or from the native app on the ereader. How does that work? I don't think I'd start using it for like a year since I have such a physical backlog of books, but I'd like to start picking up ebooks that I'm interested to see later. I'm concerned it won't be compatible with the ereader I get though... but if I buy it now before I even expect to use it it'll just age out sooner. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leatrice 11/27/20 2:16:45 PM #63: |
I love the Kobo. I'm pretty sure Indigo is Canada's only bookstore so that worked out. Kindle has a shit ton of DRM. Kobo you can pop on any damn thing you want. I have a Libra h20 and it's super snazzy. I got it because it was the best for reading manga, and it really is. Currently they're $20-$30 off for black Friday etc. It also has integration with overdrive, which lets you get ebooks from libraries but I have not learned what that means or how it works. I just spend all my money on books and go bankrupt.
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Mac Arrowny 11/27/20 2:50:23 PM #64: |
CoolCly posted...
How long before Ereaders "age out" and you need a newer up to date one? A very long time, currently. This isn't something you'll have to worry about. CoolCly posted...
Then you don't want a Kindle. Kobo is a better option, but I think you'll have to buy from their digital store rather than Amazon's. The PC'll do conversion between types too, using software like Calibre. That's how I read non-compatible books on my Kindle. Reading PDFs on Kindle isn't necessarily a great experience due to screen size. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/27/20 7:14:51 PM #65: |
Book beated.
Holy shit, Sanderson. I'm so mad I have to wait another 3 years for the next book. (COSMERE SPOILERS) --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/27/20 7:55:18 PM #66: |
Yankees posted...
Yelled at this. Fuck you, Sanderson. Yankees posted...
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NFUN 11/27/20 8:03:00 PM #67: |
I already want to reread SA gdi. I'll just reread the much shorter Wax books instead
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Yankees 11/27/20 8:11:51 PM #68: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Yelled at this. Fuck you, Sanderson. Yeah, I realized that after I posted it and went back to reread. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/27/20 8:12:57 PM #69: |
More musings:
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NFUN 11/27/20 8:16:32 PM #70: |
long live todd
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Yankees 11/27/20 8:18:35 PM #71: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/27/20 10:33:12 PM #72: |
Yankees posted...
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ExThaNemesis 11/27/20 11:09:20 PM #73: |
I am eating this book up too fast. I should try and go slower because I know how painful the wait for 5 is gonna be
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Yankees 11/27/20 11:23:58 PM #74: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
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NFUN 11/27/20 11:52:54 PM #75: |
I've been skimming through wobs and holy shit
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/28/20 12:52:27 AM #76: |
Yankees posted...
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Yankees 11/28/20 1:37:04 AM #77: |
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CoolCly 11/29/20 3:54:30 PM #78: |
Oh man, Chapter 10 spoilers
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CassandraCain 11/30/20 1:23:24 PM #79: |
It's sometimes ridiculous to me just how much I relate with Kaladin. Ridiculous in a good way, he's my favorite character for a reason.
Just finished part 1, am I the only one that gets super excited for the interludes? They always seem to have the most interesting tidbits. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/30/20 1:46:39 PM #80: |
Nope, the interludes have been one of my favorite things about the series from the start. There is so much personality and worldbuilding crammed into them. In fact, I kind of miss the style of interludes from the first two books, where they felt a lot more like varied vignettes from around the world that really filled it in. Though, it's still very cool to get alternate perspectives on the main plot or for interlude characters to get "promoted," resulting in stuff like Dawnshard which is just a great read.
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ExThaNemesis 11/30/20 2:45:53 PM #81: |
Just read the Kaladin chapter where he
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Mac Arrowny 11/30/20 2:47:22 PM #82: |
Some forms of Investiture/Magic transfer more easily between planets in the Cosmere, Breath being one of them.
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ExThaNemesis 11/30/20 3:13:10 PM #83: |
Doesn't it mostly matter how far apart the planets are? Like Nalthis is relatively close to the Roshar system if I'm not mistaken.
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NFUN 11/30/20 3:19:56 PM #84: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
Doesn't it mostly matter how far apart the planets are? Like Nalthis is relatively close to the Roshar system if I'm not mistaken.Doubt that'd matter at all. You're still very firmly in a *different* place. Being a lightyear away or a hundred shouldn't matter in terms of Connection if you're in a completely different solar system. I'd imagine Breaths are extremely portable*, but it'd be the fact *I don't think this kind of Connection matters in general for the magic itself. Dor would be impossible to use offworld without the Ire's pipes or whatever because it's a localized system. Aviar I assume work offworld fine. Sand at least works somewhat, and I bet it'd work fine. Metallic Arts would definitely work fine. Awakening, we've seen, work fine. Stormlight you can carry no problem; it'd just be the spren that are bound to the system that'd be problematic --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/30/20 3:59:41 PM #85: |
Minor correction - Stormlight itself is apparently bound to the Rosharan system. It's a significant detail in the plot. (Part 1 spoilers)
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CassandraCain 11/30/20 5:01:17 PM #86: |
I assumed it has something to do with Stormlight evaporating on its own, hence the constant need for it to be renewed. Whereas Breaths are only depleted if you use them (if I remember correctly), and
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HeroDelTiempo17 11/30/20 5:07:38 PM #87: |
Without spoilers, that is addressed and is also not the issue
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NFUN 11/30/20 5:24:54 PM #88: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Minor correction - Stormlight itself is apparently bound to the Rosharan system. It's a significant detail in the plot. (Part 1 spoilers)You're right --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tcaz2 12/01/20 10:47:22 AM #89: |
CassandraCain posted...
Can't recall myself, was there any hint of Oathbringer: I'm actually reading RoW now having finished my rereads and Dawnshard. Not done with part 1 yet, but its been pretty interesting so far. It does feel a little... off to me for some reason I'm not quite sure of, but I do appreciate what the book is doing so far with ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 12/03/20 12:18:22 AM #90: |
I still don't like Venli. I thought after what happened to the Listeners, because of her, there would be a change here....
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tcaz2 12/04/20 4:20:15 AM #91: |
So I'm in part 2, at the part where
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/04/20 5:15:22 AM #92: |
Venli is great. She's very flawed but I think she's interesting and shows a lot of nuance
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CassandraCain 12/04/20 10:46:50 AM #93: |
tcaz2 posted...
So I'm in part 2, at the part where I'm just a little further than you, but I had that same prediction. No way would it be that easy. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 12/04/20 11:03:28 AM #94: |
I'm at the same place in part 2! I'm gonna make my prediction then read your predictions
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Mac Arrowny 12/04/20 11:06:04 AM #95: |
I thought modern-day Venli stuff was solid, but the flashbacks were probably the worst of the four books. There were some interesting tidbits in there, but mostly it was stuff we already knew, and it was particularly emotionally powerful (I liked the Eshonai flashbacks more than the Venli ones also).
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CoolCly 12/04/20 11:06:50 AM #96: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Venli is great. She's very flawed but I think she's interesting and shows a lot of nuance she's just so insufferable! Especially her views on Will come back to read your spoilers some day. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CassandraCain 12/04/20 12:49:42 PM #97: |
If there's one thing I know about Sanderson's characters, they act like real people. Venli might suck right now but she'll grow and change into someone better (probably same with Moash)
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CoolCly 12/04/20 1:27:46 PM #98: |
Yeah but this should be the part that she's changing into someone that I like!!
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/04/20 1:47:53 PM #99: |
CoolCly posted...
she's just so insufferable! Especially her views on Well I'll keep it to the part you're at --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 12/06/20 3:04:42 AM #100: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
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