Current Events > 37 y/o man dating 19 y/o sparks outrage on Twitter.

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This shit is so fucking disrespectful to these women's autonomy. The idea of older men (or women) dating young women (or men) being gross is predicated, by necessity, on these young adults being incapable of making good choices. It literally undermines and shames their supposed autonomy. It's so fucking two-faced. Like,

"Hey, you're old enough now to:

Get a $100,00 loan
Join the Military
Vote in elections
Smoke Cigarettes

But, you know, we still don't think you're mature enough to have autonomy over your own body, so we're going to shame older people if you choose to date them. This is what's best for you honey~! We're just looking out for fragile young women who don't know any better!"

Go fuck yourselves, you self-righteous busy bodies. An adult woman should be trusted to make her own choices, including who she dates. If we accept that, then there's no reasonable need to shame older people from dating them.

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I don't agree with trying to frame it as pedophilia, but people being weirded out by huge age gaps is not anything new whatsoever

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They sound so jelly

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"People who are 25 are basically teenagers! PEDOPHILIA!!!!"

Pure comedy gold right there.

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CalypsoDoom posted...

Actually by putting it out there online you're explicitly making it everyone's business tbh

A couple existing in public and having pictures taken and put online by TMZ is them making their relationship everyone's business? You seem to be essentially saying that they can either keep their relationship a secret or they're making it everyone's business.

some women: "nobody wanted to fuck me at 19 so i hate that dudes want to fuck 19 year olds!"

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Gross, but legal.
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Twitter might be the literal worst thing

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The Trent posted...

people like gunplagirl are just really into judging others

Pretty much. Just typical gross human behavior described by a century of sociological study. No matter how much we study and recognize it, it never go away, because these tendencies to judge and shun and shame are in-built in people as evolved for some clan or tribal societies, and those who are intellectually incapable of seeing this negative behavior in themselves will not attempt to correct it. They'll thrive off of it because being judgmental to them is a rush of positive hormones and stimulation.

This is the same behavior that drives Conservatism in general, for what it's worth. Being judgmental is a salve for the fear and stress that is inherent in a chaotic and impossibly large society.

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This is ridiculous. Every guy in here would fuck that girl, as long as it was legal. Regardless of her age. 18, 19 whatever.

Shes a consenting adult. If she wants to fuck a 70 year old shes able.

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so she is over 18 so she can date whoever she wants
personally id have a one night stand with someone that young but i would never have a serious relationship with such a large age difference
we wouldnt have much in common

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CalypsoDoom posted...

Actually by putting it out there online you're explicitly making it everyone's business tbh

what the fuck?

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I think consistently dating much younger women probably does say something about one's own maturity and I can definitely see why people think it is weird.

At the same time, calling these people predators is way over-the-top. A 19-year-old is an adult. They have their own agency and can make their own decisions. If they want to be with an older man because they think he is hot, he is rich, he is famous, they have a dad fetish, whatever, that is their call to make.

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As long as she's legal age I don't care. Personally not my thing to date girls that young but I won't stop anyone else from doing it.

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Those opposed to a 19 year old woman trying to date an older man implying "she's too vulnerable" to do that are ironically being sexist towards the young woman. Young men are legally allowed to date much older women. By saying "omg that older man should not be dating that young woman even if it's legal ", they are also implying that the young woman should not be able to date a much older man either. Two sides of the same coin, folks.

To honestly empower young women in their rights for who they choose to date as an adult, you have to also recognize that the older man has the right to reciprocate that consensual interest. When you don't, you're NOT supporting the young woman's right to choose who she wants to legally date, while young men don't face that same scrutiny when selecting older partners. How progressive...

Also keep in mind that young women selecting older partners is one of the ways they "move up" in society by managing to share resources and privileges those partners have amassed. Implying that young women should avoid doing that (while young men don't have to) is definitely not feminist.

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CalypsoDoom posted...

I mean, if I didn't want the heat from making dumb life choices I'd keep them to myself tbh. I had issues with only a ten year age gap when people found out. Shit like this always draws mass amounts of negative attention

It seems like you're trying to take a step back from what you implied before, which is that the options are for them to keep their relationship a secret or to be making it everyone's business. Are you working with a different understanding of what "making it everyone's business" means, maybe?

Lol im sure a socialite with a net worth of $25 million doesnt have his life together

joe projecting as always

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The Trent posted...

some women: "nobody wanted to fuck me at 19 so i hate that dudes want to fuck 19 year olds!"

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Lol @ caring what two consenting adults are doing with each other

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Nothing wrong with someone in their 30s dating 18-19 year olds.

There is something wrong with someone in their 30s habitually going after girls that just turned legal.

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kewldude475 posted...

Do you know who Scott Disick is? He could easily find a 37 year old woman to date. He just chooses not to because he can. You really think Disick goes after younger women because he thinks they are easier targets? You have it completely backwards dude. If these chicks didn't wanna be with him and found him gross/creepy then they wouldn't be with him.

I don't know who he is but irregardless, constantly dating 19 year olds at the very least signals he is not really interested in committment but just fun.
Not because 19 year olds don't commit, but because if he was looking for a wife, he would be looking for qualities outside her age and thus have a wider range of age of people dated.
He is a playboy obviously.

Twitter outrage group sounding awfully jelly right now.

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CalypsoDoom posted...

I am a woman, for starters. I KNOW what it's like to be flattered by old men being into you as I've literally experienced that from a very young age.

It's easy to impress people with no life experience whatsoever.

"Won't someone think of those impressionable young women! For they cannot for themselves!"

I despise people who treat women like children even when they're adults. If you feel the woman is making a bad decision, then hold the woman accountable. She's an adult. She doesn't need to be protected from the real world. She doesn't need to be shielded from criticism.

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You can think its creepy all you like but trying to shame/stop them is tantamount to saying 19 is still a child.

That said, I understand how little most teenagers know of the world, and a relationship with one will inevitably be part lover, part parent and part teacher. Not something I would be into but to each their own

Solid_Seb posted...

That said, I understand how little most teenagers know of the world, and a relationship with one will inevitably be part lover, part parent and part teacher.

I don't think that part parent is inevitable, just part lover and part teacher is possible.

Tenlaar posted...

I don't think that part parent is inevitable, just part lover and part teacher is possible.

What an age gap like that does do is clearly separate the responsibilities of the relationship. There is no mutual, we're equals, 50/50 responsibility nonsense. The older one wears the pants and the younger one acknowledges this and reaps the obvious benefits of being with someone who's established in their life with years more experience. This dynamic works, but only if both parties are willing to accept the trade-offs and responsibilities.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

Do you just look for things to be angry about on twitter all day?

Like you are right now?

Tenlaar posted...

I don't think that part parent is inevitable, just part lover and part teacher is possible.

Care-taker might be the better word

tigerslashII posted...

What an age gap like that does do is clearly separate the responsibilities of the relationship. There is no mutual, we're equals, 50/50 responsibility nonsense. The older one wears the pants and the younger one acknowledges this and reaps the obvious benefits of being with someone who's established in their life with years more experience. This dynamic works, but only if both parties are willing to accept the trade-offs and responsibilities.

I reject your premise that every relationship with that kind of age gap fits into this mold, largely because the "responsibilities of the relationship" are not something set in stone and vary in significant ways from relationship to relationship. You seem to be using your own standards and expectations as universal rules of what a relationship has to be.

I mean you can think it's creepy, but it's not immoral. it's two consenting adults. they're not being held hostage or anything. I wouldn't do it or want my daughter or sister or anyone like that to do it, but it's whatever. not really anyone's business, especially if you're not even connected to them somehow

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Imagine infantilizing an adult like that. It'd be one thing if there was any evidence of him grooming her from a position of authority, but other than that there is literally nothing wrong with it.

Bitter old women vent on twitter.

Compsognathus posted...

I think consistently dating much younger women probably does say something about one's own maturity and I can definitely see why people think it is weird.

At the same time, calling these people predators is way over-the-top. A 19-year-old is an adult. They have their own agency and can make their own decisions. If they want to be with an older man because they think he is hot, he is rich, he is famous, they have a dad fetish, whatever, that is their call to make.

Your position is reasonable, but calling this pedophila is disrespect toward people who have been victim of it. It trivialize the word.
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nemu posted...

Imagine infantilizing an adult like that. It'd be one thing if there was any evidence of him grooming her from a position of authority, but other than that there is literally nothing wrong with it.

The only reason I would oppose it is if the situation was weird and they first met when she was 14.

By the way. Mass report the morons comparing it to pedophilia if you have a twitter account. It's disrespectful toward people who were actual victim of it
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There's a weird strand of being prudish and having very extreme absolute morals amongst millennial liberals. That seems to be what leads to this kind of thinking.

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ghostblob posted...

There's a weird strand of being prudish and having very extreme absolute morals amongst millennial liberals. That seems to be what leads to this kind of thinking.

I used to be part of groups like this. I started dating my bf when I was 29 and he was 20. Those idiots compared it to pedophila since "he was not allowed to drink" when it's not even true. You are allowed to drink at 18 where I live. I hate those criminal false rape accusator. I was molested when I was 10 and they lumped me with those garbage people due to my relationship between consensual adults.
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it's unethical for anybody over 21 to date a 18 years old person and if you disagree it says a lot about you :(

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epik_fail1 posted...

I used to be part of groups like this. I started dating my bf when I was 29 and he was 20. Those idiots compared it to pedophila since "he was not allowed to drink" when it's not even true. You are allowed to drink at 18 where I live. I hate those criminal false rape accusator. I was molested when I was 10 and they lumped me with those garbage people due to my relationship between consensual adults.

That's really shit, especially so if you've had to deal with actual paedophiles. It's not at all comparable and to pretend otherwise is offensive.

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