Current Events > How's a COVID vaccine going to work if people can get infected multiple times?

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I don't know how anything works, but I assume vaccines cause you to produce antibodies similar to when you recover from an illness. But a lot of people have reported contracting COVID again after recovering, so is it even possible to create a vaccine for a virus that behaves like this?

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The same way the flu shot barely works, I guess...

It won't.

The vaccine is a R-DNA vaccine meant to modify your genetics code. Welcome to enslavement and extermination.

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HypnoCoosh posted...

The vaccine is a R-DNA vaccine meant to modify your genetics code. Welcome to enslavement and extermination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

HypnoCoosh posted...

It won't.

The vaccine is a R-DNA vaccine meant to modify your genetics code. Welcome to enslavement and extermination.

Lol

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TeaMilk posted...

Lol

Ignorance is bliss.

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Reinfection is not common at all.

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It would be a periodic thing until it's under control, I'm assuming. The problem right now is that we don't know how long the vaccine's efficacy lasts.

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TeaMilk posted...

I don't know how anything works, but I assume vaccines cause you to produce antibodies similar to when you recover from an illness. But a lot of people have reported contracting COVID again after recovering, so is it even possible to create a vaccine for a virus that behaves like this?

<img src="https://ib.bioninja.com.au/_Media/herd-immunity_med.jpeg">
If you don't understand how this picture works feel free to ask and I'll explain more. But I think SEEING it helps a lot more than being told how it works.

But in essence if you reduce how many people can get covid by having a vaccine that is 50%-80% effective than overall the spread of covid will be reduced to the point that it can't be spread anymore and it ceases to exist. Just like polio. But it requires a lot of people to be vaccinated to protect those who can't be vaccinated.

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Here is a pretty good Washington Post article about it:

https://tinyurl.com/yyrfsmha

6. What do the reinfections say about prospects for an effective vaccine?

Not necessarily anything. In the one reported case of reinfection where the first bout was known to be serious, the second was mild. One theory is that the immune system requires a tough challenge in order to be adequately prepared to take on the virus. A vaccine might provide that training, and not necessarily just by producing antibodies. Several experimental Covid-19 vaccines prompt the production of a less well-known immune player, T cells. While preventing infection with SARS-CoV-2 is the ultimate goal, researchers say that a vaccine that protects against illness or even against severe disease would be very useful.

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well think of it this way

if less people have covid

theres a less chance you get reinfected.

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OP is not thinking

VACCINE IS NOT A CURE

Vaccine will not stop you from getting infected

reminder FLU Vaccine does not stop you from getting it again from someone

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People get reinfected because no one knows what the titer count is. So if you get a mild corona infection, it's possible to not have enough anti-bodies to make you immune right away

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So how the vaccine will most likely work is by preventing you from getting sick entirely (and thus safe from repeat infections of the same strain), or at the very least drastically reduce symptoms so that its not as dangerous

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Squall28 posted...

Reinfection is not common at all.

Ah okay that's good, I wasn't aware of how common it was. I saw a poster here say it happened to him and his wife so it made me wonder

CableZL posted...

It would be a periodic thing until it's under control, I'm assuming. The problem right now is that we don't know how long the vaccine's efficacy lasts.

Ok I guess that would make sense. Are there other vaccines that are taken periodically like that? I assume the yearly flu one is because the strain mutates

badjay posted...

<img src="https://ib.bioninja.com.au/_Media/herd-immunity_med.jpeg">
If you don't understand how this picture works feel free to ask and I'll explain more. But I think SEEING it helps a lot more than being told how it works.

But in essence if you reduce how many people can get covid by having a vaccine that is 50%-80% effective than overall the spread of covid will be reduced to the point that it can't be spread anymore and it ceases to exist. Just like polio. But it requires a lot of people to be vaccinated to protect those who can't be vaccinated.

Oh yeah I get herd immunity. I hope enough people would be willing to take it, and that the immunity window would be long enough for it to be effective

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Man, Hypno really only lasted for about half an hour, huh

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Here is a pretty good Washington Post article about it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

They also made an awesome infection simulator so people could see why social distancing works.

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From what I understand, the plan was for there to be two vaccines. One to kill the virus, then a few weeks later one to boost immunity.

It could be those people got the virus killer, then got re-infected before getting the immunity booster.

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When my son was an infant, he had to get an RSV vaccine every month--actually every 28 days exactly--because he was a preemie and especially susceptible.

Maybe we'll have drive-through vaccine lines that everyone has to visit as often as is needed to maintain immunity.

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since the jackass that got booted off the site brought it up, by screaming conspiracy theories, i'll expand on how the vaccine works.

traditional vaccines use killed or weakened pathogen as the inoculant. its given to the patient and induces an immune response that produces an antibody defense, those antibodies persist for a period of time and act as a defense against actual infection. preparation of these vaccines can take years because its time and resource intensive to find ways to grow the pathogen and kill it without destroying the parts needed for immune stimulation.

the vaccines currently in front running are mRNA vaccines. they skip the pathogen growth and killing process entirely by finding the genetic code for a protein that is suspected as being a good target for antibodies. they use that genetic code to produce mRNA, which act as a carrier molecule for genetic information to the portion of cells that produce proteins; in essence you're injected with a molecule that uses your own bodies cells to produce the antigen that will help induce the antibody response to give you immunity from the virus.

these mRNA do not persist long, and you wont be incorporating this genetic information into your genome. the protein that they code for will not make you sick, its a surface protein found on the virus package that helps it bind to your cells and as such is expressed in large quantities on the virus; this is why its such a good target for antibodies, its literally covered in the protein and antibodies work like bumpers attaching to the target and preventing it from binding to host cells before attracting other immune cells to destroy the virus.

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Hypnocoosh is SUSPENDED

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monkmith posted...

since the jackass that got booted off the site brought it up, by screaming conspiracy theories, i'll expand on how the vaccine works.

better edit the quotes, I guess...

Boy Hypno wasn't back very long. I'm sure he'll be back on totalnerdken or whatever his alt is

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