Current Events > Lawyers Litigating For Trump Remember Their Licenses On The Line

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https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/lawyers-litigating-for-trump-suddenly-remember-their-licenses-are-on-the-line-if-they-lie-to-a-judge/

Theres a big difference between a) waving around a stack of affidavits in a safe space and b) bringing your claims before a judge. We saw that difference on Tuesday in the Trump campaigns case in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
President Donald Trump has repeatedly and falsely said from the get-go that he won Pennsylvania by a lot. Now that the election has been called for Joe Biden, lawyers for the presidents campaign and the Republican National Committeesome of them supposedly troubledare in the uphill position of having to explain why they are in court.
It was apparent to legal commentators that one of the lawyers arguing the Montgomery County case before Common Pleas Judge Richard P. Haaz was not going to risk losing his law license by lying in court. Some also noted that sanctions may be issued where frivolous lawsuits have been filed.

As of right now, Biden is ahead by 46,000 votes in Pennsylvania, but the Trump campaign was in court litigating against the Montgomery County Board of Elections to discuss approximately 600 ballots. The actual number of ballots, as youll see, is 592. In Montgomery County, Biden is ahead by 130,000 votes.

The Trump campaign claimed that the Montgomery Board of Elections refused to abide legal requirements for canvassing and counting mail-in ballots for which outer declaration envelope is not completed filled in with the electors signature, address and/or date of execution.

On Tuesday, Judge Haaz promptly put Trump campaign attorney Jonathan S. Goldstein on the spot. The judge asked him point-blank if the campaign was actually alleging any fraud. Goldstein went to bat for President Trump while admitting that he was not alleging fraud, uttering the phrase (twice): To my knowledge at present, no. Legal experts said that Goldsteins remarks were typical of a lawyer unwilling to risk sanctions or bar discipline in service of a client.

Other lawyers, some of them known for their affiliations with Democratic causes and the Biden campaign, noted that Goldsteins remarks to the judge were in stark contrast to the presidents entirely unsupported stolen election narrative.

Here was the exchange in which Goldstein, without proof of fraud, asked that the ballots in question be thrown out for reasons of material technicality. The attorney noted that accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step, and it was a step he did not take:

THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me and I read it several times you dont claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? Thats correct?
MR. GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is

if it's enough to set me for life, sure

because being disbarred = no income, at least in law
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https://www.newsweek.com/according-justice-scalia-trumps-lawyers-should-face-sanctions-litigation-abuse-opinion-1546501

Scalia strikes from the grave on this particular topic.

philsov posted...

if it's enough to set me for life, sure

because being disbarred = no income, at least in law

smdh no principles

Whatever happened to that trump lawyer that said there was a nonzero number of trump observers in the room?

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I'd hate to be a laywer purely for the hours worked. I could live with the soul sucking-ness of the job but the hours would kill me

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Hopefully all lawyers on Trump's side are disbarred

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yeah, you don't lie to the tribunal. Every lawyer takes a profession misconduct class, and most know that no client is worth losing your reputation or license. These are pretty stock answers when a lawyer gets pressed on something that isn't helpful to the case lol. Always fun to see.

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I say this as someone licensed but not currently practicing because I'm with the courts for the next year or two.

You could not pay me enough to represent these chucklefucks. I'd rather fall back on my trucking backup plan than ever have my name and bar number attached to these cases.

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ThePieReborn posted...

I say this as someone licensed but not currently practicing because I'm with the courts for the next year or two.

You could not pay me enough to represent these chucklefucks. I'd rather fall back on my trucking backup plan than ever have my name and bar number attached to these cases.

Same. But also because these are such frivolous lawsuits and I rather not piss off a federal judge for wasting their time. Probably why "high profile" lawyers are steering clear from this shit.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Whatever happened to that trump lawyer that said there was a nonzero number of trump observers in the room?

he told the truth, and 99% sure he lost the case. it may still be pending, but it's not going to go his way. probably saved his future, but i can't imagine his current boss is happy.

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Medussa posted...

he told the truth, and 99% sure he lost the case. it may still be pending, but it's not going to go his way. probably saved his future, but i can't imagine his current boss is happy.

Did it save his future? He told the truth in such a round about way that it even pissed off the judge.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Did it save his future? He told the truth in such a round about way that it even pissed off the judge.

yeah, but if he doubled down on the lie, he was risking getting disbarred. at least now he's allowed to try to rebuild his reputation.

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https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1326642408591912962
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Ps2Twilight posted...

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1326642408591912962

How unbearable these people must be

Trump is paying that lawyer handsomely. All he has to do is represent his losing case.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Whatever happened to that trump lawyer that said there was a nonzero number of trump observers in the room?

The judge in that case pulled the "as a member of the bar" card, which is basically lawyer-speak for "don't play games with me or I will put your career in serious jeopardy."
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Medussa posted...

he told the truth, and 99% sure he lost the case. it may still be pending, but it's not going to go his way. probably saved his future, but i can't imagine his current boss is happy.

Case was dismissed without prejudice after coming to an agreement of assigning extra watchers from each party, from what I heard. The exchange between the Trump campaign lawyer and the judge certainly didn't help the campaign narrative.

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