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Lokarin
11/03/20 1:38:58 PM
#1:


I don't really like VNs, due to the general lack of... motion

But Dandangronpa seems to me a smidgen more like Phoenix Wright where you occasionally do.... anything

Are they any good? I mean, I don't mind just waiting for the Grumps to finish the series so ya

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CaptainStrong
11/03/20 1:46:54 PM
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They're all great games. If you're gonna play them, don't look up anything related to it on the Internet. It's easy as shit to get spoiled and they're way better when you don't know what's gonna happen.
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Lokarin
11/03/20 1:50:15 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
They're all great games. If you're gonna play them, don't look up anything related to it on the Internet. It's easy as shit to get spoiled and they're way better when you don't know what's gonna happen.

Given what I seen in the Grumps doing the prologue and the first bit of Chapter 1 as well as structured foreshadowing in the beginning my first guess would be that YOU are the killer and you're the ultimate liar, lying even to the player

but that would be really silly... although it would be cool if there was some randomization involved similar to how the Clocktower games work

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LinkPizza
11/03/20 2:35:17 PM
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Ive put in about 1000 hours into all the games together... Its my third Favorite series...
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Wanded
11/03/20 2:38:35 PM
#5:


stop spoiling games for yourselves and play them yourselves instead of watching others play

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Lokarin
11/03/20 2:40:25 PM
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Wanded posted...
stop spoiling games for yourselves and play them yourselves instead of watching others play

I would have gained nothing playing Doki Doki Literature Club for myself - watching was sufficient

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LinkPizza
11/03/20 2:42:30 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I would have gained nothing playing Doki Doki Literature Club for myself - watching was sufficient

But that game was all over the place. This game is pretty fun. I would recommend playing it first...
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Wanded
11/03/20 2:58:37 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I would have gained nothing playing Doki Doki Literature Club for myself - watching was sufficient
I thought you were cool, then you said this



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Lokarin
11/03/20 3:12:34 PM
#9:


Wanded posted...
I thought you were cool, then you said this


I'm the kinda gamer that would turn on auto-skip to speed run a visual novel.......

Proof:

https://youtu.be/yPHvdMS75pk

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Wanded
11/03/20 4:39:48 PM
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you probably also skip text in rpgs and don't talk to npcs don'tcha

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TheWitchMorgana
11/03/20 4:43:17 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I'm the kinda gamer that would turn on auto-skip to speed run a visual novel.......

visual novels shouldn't be approached like games imo

they are literally novels with pictures and music and sometimes voices at their core

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Lokarin
11/03/20 4:57:28 PM
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Wanded posted...
you probably also skip text in rpgs and don't talk to npcs don'tcha

I talk to all the NPCs, but I do it fast.... they might have an event flag attached to them

TheWitchMorgana posted... visual novels shouldn't be approached like games imo

they are literally novels with pictures and music and sometimes voices at their core

That's why I was curious if Danganronpa was more like Phoenix Wright or Hotel Dusk/999 where you get to actually do anything

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TheFalseDeity
11/03/20 5:34:55 PM
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If ultimately you play games for gameplay and arent too big on the characters themselves then id say its a safe watch. The only big difference would be which characters get hung out with and then whoever you watch thinking of things you might not have on your own. At least for the first game. Know nothing of the others.

As for what you "do"....theres really only point and click type stuff outside of the trials without much of note being all that obscure or complicated. The trials themselves have 3 minigame type things - You figure out the right evidence point and shoot it at contradictory statements, hangman esque game, and then a short rhythm game. All 3 linked to the same health bar which causes failure of the trial when fully depleted.


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LinkPizza
11/03/20 6:18:41 PM
#14:


Lokarin posted...
That's why I was curious if Danganronpa was more like Phoenix Wright or Hotel Dusk/999 where you get to actually do anything

Funny you mention that, the Zero Escape Series (999 and sequels), the Phoenix Wright series, and the Danganronpa series are three of my favorite VNs series. With PW as my second favorite series game series, and Danganronpa as my third. Zelda is obviously first. Anyway, it pretty similar to PW. But it has more games to do during the cases...
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LinkPizza
11/03/20 6:21:46 PM
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TheFalseDeity posted...
without much of note being all that obscure or complicated.

There are some special hidden stories, as well... Many people miss a bunch of those...

TheFalseDeity posted...
You figure out the right evidence point and shoot it at contradictory statements, hangman esque game, and then a short rhythm game.

And if he plays the other games, they will add more. My favorite is Debate Scrum...
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Lokarin
11/04/20 1:55:00 PM
#16:


Celeste is acting kinda sus...

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Lokarin
11/04/20 2:04:01 PM
#17:


Ok, something just happened in the grumps play through that makes me dang curious

Sayaka is looking for a weapon or something for self-defense and leads you to the sword in the hall... which is covered in gold dust.

...Is she trying to frame you 'cuz she knows the dust is good evidence?

......

I feel my intrigue has been sparked

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LinkPizza
11/04/20 2:12:50 PM
#18:


Just play the games... They are good...
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Lokarin
11/04/20 2:53:07 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Just play the games... They are good...

If only there was a way I could play the game and eat popcorn at the same time

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CaptainStrong
11/04/20 3:09:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
If only there was a way I could play the game and eat popcorn at the same time
If you play the PC version, you can use a mouse to advance the text and select dialogue options. And the mouse can do most things in the trials.
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Lokarin
11/04/20 3:38:48 PM
#21:


Ok, I'll make an account bet...

I'll buy the first game, it's not on sale right now but whatevers...

If I get emotionally involved at ANY point............... I'll buy someone some stuff from their Steam wishlist

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desertman
11/04/20 3:41:29 PM
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If you have a phone that can run it, 1 and 2 are on sale right now for $5 each.

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manugarciac
11/04/20 3:42:18 PM
#23:


Danganronpa games are more involved than Phoenix Wright. During trials you not only have to look for contradictions, but you have to do some minigames as well. They are way better than Phoenix Wright in my opinion.

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Lokarin
11/04/20 3:45:29 PM
#24:


desertman posted...
If you have a phone that can run it, 1 and 2 are on sale right now for $5 each.

My phone is ancient and no intention of upgrading it... I use my phone basically just AS a phone, it barely runs Sudoku.

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Lokarin
11/04/20 4:13:33 PM
#25:


Should I just start out on "Mean" logic? I don't know what that will entail

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Lokarin
11/04/20 4:26:27 PM
#26:


Oops, uh oh

*barf*

Ok, I didn't notice it in the Grumps video, but when Makoto is standing outside the school in the prologue and the camera pans (well, scrolls) down I get massive vertigo... I had this problem in Doom Eternal as well, but only when looking up or down.

Is it possible to have only "vertical" motion sickness?

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...That doesn't count as emotional investment! Baka!

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LinkPizza
11/04/20 5:02:59 PM
#27:


Do Mean for both!
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Greenfox111
11/04/20 5:03:13 PM
#28:


danganronpa is fun as fuck bro

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Wanded
11/04/20 5:22:38 PM
#29:


Lokarin posted...
Ok, I'll make an account bet...

I'll buy the first game, it's not on sale right now but whatevers...

If I get emotionally involved at ANY point............... I'll buy someone some stuff from their Steam wishlist
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Lokarin
11/04/20 7:28:56 PM
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Wanded posted...
screenshot

k?

https://imgur.com/smm9WfJ

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LinkPizza
11/04/20 7:34:44 PM
#31:


The flagpole!
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keyblader1985
11/04/20 8:16:41 PM
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That first death was a shame; I liked that character.

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TheWitchMorgana
11/04/20 8:37:57 PM
#33:


celeste best girl

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Lokarin
11/04/20 8:47:18 PM
#34:


TheWitchMorgana posted...
celeste best girl

her accent is really nice, and I normally would be all over her (figuratively), but I really like Hino... and Junko was unexpectedly sincere

...I'm on Chapter 2 now, still cold as ice - but there were a couple things that might have me moving towards room temperature

namely who I coincidentally spent my Free Time with ... making me wonder if there were alternate outcomes, or at least alternate skill unlocks.

Plus there was some intriguing foreshadowing from Monokuma... and I have thoughts of my own (like if previous classes of this school also went though the same thing, since this school has been around for a LONG time)

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keyblader1985
11/04/20 9:04:26 PM
#35:


Chapter 2 is my personal favorite.

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Lokarin
11/04/20 9:51:08 PM
#36:


uh oh, Taka's Free Time event got a smile out of me, Professor

...More than a smile and I might, like, care or something

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LinkPizza
11/05/20 4:51:45 AM
#37:


Hina is great. I share a box a donuts with her if I could!
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Lokarin
11/05/20 2:34:07 PM
#38:


Just starting chapter 3 and, well,
I wish they wouldn't foreshadow everything so hard...

I mean, I know this is a game for kids/YA (probably) but they could use a little more subtlety... don't insult ma intelergoos

...

As an aside, if I'm right about the Foreshadowing insofar, I recommend everyone play
https://store.steampowered.com/app/611760/Dont_Escape_4_Days_to_Survive/

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Lokarin
11/05/20 7:47:53 PM
#39:


https://imgur.com/FMXgqLc

SHE SIAD THE THING!!!

Also... I'm rapidly losing interest and have found myself skipping text since mid Chapter 3

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Lokarin
11/06/20 4:12:41 PM
#40:


I'm at chapster 6 I think...

Not sure if it counts as an emotion, but I've been thinking about Chihiro a lot - just wanna give the little woobie a hug

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keyblader1985
11/06/20 5:21:58 PM
#41:


You didn't catch any feels in chapter 2? One of my favorite moments was Kiyotaka furiously trying to defend his new friend, while Mondo eventually fell silent, hanging on to his last remaining shred of honor.

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Lokarin
11/06/20 5:44:08 PM
#42:


keyblader1985 posted...
You didn't catch any feels in chapter 2? One of my favorite moments was Kiyotaka furiously trying to defend his new friend, while Mondo eventually fell silent, hanging on to his last remaining shred of honor.

Not any strong feels - just the regular 'this is a thing that is happening' I usually have...

But, hey, I don't feel a lot of things in general... actually, some things in the game that probably weren't meant to be important moments had more impact.

Side note, I was slightly offended that the answer to one of the Hangmans was Schizo when that's not related to DID and Schizo is what I have

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Lokarin
11/06/20 6:05:21 PM
#43:


As an aside: The game has been very blunt with its foreshadowing... but I'm in the Chapter 6 trial and, well, Monokuma just said something that is either really STUPID or is one of the most clever lines of dialogue I've ever seen

So, while I'm still playing... here's my FIRST thought of what the ending might be

All of us are the Ultimate Despair and the game is a test to see if erasing memories is enough to keep killers from killing

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LinkPizza
11/06/20 7:38:04 PM
#44:


I think in the first game, chapter 2 and 4 were where I caught feels. In the second game, it was definitely chapter 4 and 5 (The blackened in those cases were my favorite characters). I still cry when I watch those. In the third game, I cried at some point during case 1, 3, 4, & 5. That being said, chapter 2s blackened was a character I liked a lot... But the third game hit hard...
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Lokarin
11/06/20 8:09:09 PM
#45:


It's over~! But I can do School Mode... I do have like 400 Monokoins, even though I put murder on hold to play gachapon.

...

The ending wasn't as satisfying as the setup and it felt like there were some unfinished angles... but that could be relationship status kinda content

IDK

It's possible it's just because I'm not the right age bracket for the story

I don't wanna say I didn't like the story, but, well, take Phoenix Wright 1 as an example - I was invested in Mia Fey and effected almost immediately, and the 2nd game gave me final chapter impetus/concern.

As for other VNs, Chuusotsu Time after Time (which is still SOMEHOW my favourite VN even though it's really dumb) got me really invested in the characters since the story was so absurd that as the characters start to like each other you start to like them in turn (weirdly an advantage of narrative that is taken away when you have a choice of characters to spend time with) and there's a delightfully unexpected WHAM at the end, which is something a VN needs to only use at the right moment or it loses meaning.

Well, ok, unless you count Long Live the Queen as a VN... that one would be my favourite; it has EVERYTHING

....

I'm old, though; but I don't think I'm entirely heartless... I just think it's different things that move me, like i'm some sort of alien. I found Hajime no Ippo to be absolutely thrilling, but Baki to be hella-stupid; even if they run very similar stories. ... ... side note, Sakura did remind me of Baki's plot a lot but I don't know when they came out.

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LinkPizza
11/06/20 8:19:11 PM
#46:


I dont think youre out of the age bracket. Most people I know who have played it are within like 5 years of my age and liked it. And I did, as well. And I think were close in age. That being said, 2, 3, UDGs, and the anime have more story...
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keyblader1985
11/06/20 8:21:54 PM
#47:


The only thing I really didn't care for was that it was openly a sequel hook.

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Lokarin
11/06/20 8:25:50 PM
#48:


LinkPizza posted...
I dont think youre out of the age bracket. Most people I know who have played it are within like 5 years of my age and liked it. And I did, as well. And I think were close in age. That being said, 2, 3, UDGs, and the anime have more story...

Well, I am 37.

And I don't wanna say I didn't like the story, but that's just the thing - I wouldn't have gained anything playing it for myself compared to watching a let's play.

The characters were certainly likable and unlikeable in the right ways.

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LinkPizza
11/06/20 8:26:08 PM
#49:


keyblader1985 posted...
The only thing I really didn't care for was that it was openly a sequel hook.

I didnt mind. That said, I had bought 1 & 2 together, so I already knew there was another one...
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11/06/20 8:29:34 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I wouldn't have gained anything playing it for myself compared to watching a let's play.

Its different for me. Mainly for a few reasons. One reason is I love games like this. And playing games like this. And figuring stuff out. I cant do that watching. Plus, sometimes, people pick weird options. The second is getting to know the characters. And learning about them while playing. And caring for them because you know about them. And all the twists and turns along the way... Like, I liked different characters than other people. So, even if they didnt get to know the characters I liked, I got to know them...
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