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NinjaWarrior455
10/26/20 5:01:02 PM
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Is Vital Broseph?

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:01:55 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
When facts dont work for you, at least you still have no u
Oh so Clinton didn't get millions of votes over everyone she went up against recently? Funny, every source I check say otherwise. Maybe you should inform yourself.

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COVxy
10/26/20 5:03:24 PM
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Imagine still having a bug up your ass about Hillary Clinton.

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Smashingpmkns
10/26/20 5:06:48 PM
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Imagine holding a candidate accountable for getting their base to turn out and vote. What nonsense!
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1337toothbrush
10/26/20 5:06:51 PM
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Antifar
10/26/20 5:07:05 PM
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In a democracy, voters are supposed to place obligations and responsibilities upon politicians, not the other way around. Otherwise you end up in Bertolt Brecht territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_L%C3%B6sung?wprov=sfla1
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Jabodie
10/26/20 5:08:24 PM
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We should have a bipartisan agreement to stop talking about Hillary.

Oh lol I see this is a progressives vs. moderates topic.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:11:30 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Uh oh first came the goalpost shift now here comes the meltdown
bruh, do you have a goldfish-tier memory? You literally started off saying she was shit at getting people to vote for her because most people in this country never vote, when I embarrassed you on that front you shifted the goalposts to she's shit because Obama got more votes.

1337toothbrush posted...
Primaries =/= general
We're talking about Clinton's ability to get people to vote for her so I don't even know what your post was supposed to counter.

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COVxy
10/26/20 5:12:05 PM
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Like, at this point, we have a wealth of information about the multitude of influences in the 2016 election. It's fair to say that anybody boiling down Hillary's loss as a result of a single thing is just trying to sell something.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:14:15 PM
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COVxy posted...
Like, at this point, we have a wealth of information about the multitude of influences in the 2016 election. It's fair to say that anybody boiling down Hillary's loss as a result of a single thing is just trying to sell something.
True enough, but convincing the Sandernistas not to throw a hissy fit when their guy loses is the one we have the most control over and can prevent by pointing out how massively they fucked up in 2016.

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COVxy
10/26/20 5:15:46 PM
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You're not convincing anyone of anything. You are deliberately antagonizing.

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MaxEffingBemis
10/26/20 5:17:15 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
True enough, but convincing the Sandernistas not to throw a hissy fit when their guy loses is the one we have the most control over and can prevent by pointing out how massively they fucked up in 2016.
Wasnt it proven a huge percentage of Sanders voters actually turned out to vote for Hillary in the general? Or are you ignoring that?

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Jabodie
10/26/20 5:17:27 PM
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Some people really loved Hillary huh

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DarkBuster22904
10/26/20 5:17:40 PM
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its almost like assuming you've won while wasting time campaigning in deep blue states like California while ignoring the rest is a losing strategy.

it'll get you the popular vote, cause there's tons of people in the deep blue states. But thats all it'll get you.

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iPhone_7
10/26/20 5:18:11 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1320738723416428545

It is her fault we got Trump.

I blame the people who voted for him. Theyre why hes president after all.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:18:28 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Wasnt it proven a huge percentage of Sanders voters actually turned out to vote for Hillary in the general? Or are you ignoring that?
Barely 70%, already pointed that out. Try to keep up with the rest of us.

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MaxEffingBemis
10/26/20 5:18:40 PM
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True facts: greater percentage of sanders voters voted for Hillary in 2016, than Hillary voters went out to vote for Obama in 2008

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Antifar
10/26/20 5:18:54 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
hissy fit when their guy loses is the one we have the most control

I strongly disagree; I think it's easier to produce a better candidate than to change the public. Particularly if your tactic for change is shaming people.
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MaxEffingBemis
10/26/20 5:19:52 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
Barely 70%, already pointed that out. Try to keep up with the rest of us.
Thats still the majority of sanders voters

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:22:39 PM
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Antifar posted...
I strongly disagree; I think it's easier to produce a better candidate than to change the public. Particularly if your tactic for change is shaming people.
How exactly do we produce a better candidate, our choices are limited to those who want to run and from there it's up to the voters to decide.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:24:19 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Thats still the majority of sanders voters
Should be higher considering she ran the most progressive presidential campaign at the time and the opposition was someone will go out of his way to make sure Sanders' policies never come to fruition.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:29:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
The moral of Clintons story is
Are you still here? Run along and let the adults speak.

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ButteryMales
10/26/20 5:34:16 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
Should be higher considering she ran the most progressive presidential campaign at the time and the opposition was someone will go out of his way to make sure Sanders' policies never come to fruition.
Trump was an unknown variable claiming to "drain the swamp" which Hillary was considered a part of.
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COVxy
10/26/20 5:36:31 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Trump was an unknown variable

Facetious?

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:40:40 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Trump was an unknown variable
Unknown my ass, there was enough information to go on before the election to realize he was a piece of shit.

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ButteryMales
10/26/20 5:42:14 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
Unknown my ass, there was enough information to go on before the election to realize he was a piece of shit.
Same can be said for Hillary.
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COVxy
10/26/20 5:42:34 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
How would that be facetious when Trump never held office and barely talked policy beyond a few slogans?

Because anybody who spent anytime at all paying attention to Trump could have predicted pretty much all of the events that followed?

Was it really hard to tell he was going to tend toward fascist rule while ignoring science when he stated as much during his rallies and debates?

This whole "well we gave Trump a chance because he was an outsider, how could we have known?" narrative is blatantly false. Maybe it's a nice way to let "undecided" voters off the hook, but it's clearly not truthful.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:47:07 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Same can be said for Hillary.
Not really, as Secretary of State her approval rating was pretty high, it wasn't until Russia started telling people she was running a pedophilia ring in the basement of a pizza place that her approval rating started to drop.

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ButteryMales
10/26/20 5:50:44 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
Not really, as Secretary of State her approval rating was pretty high, it wasn't until Russia started telling people she was running a pedophilia ring in the basement of a pizza place that her approval rating started to drop.
Google Hillary Clinton trust.
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Dreepapult
10/26/20 5:50:56 PM
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Did losing trap her mentally in 2016?

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pepper2012
10/26/20 5:53:53 PM
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4 years and shes still blaming everyone else smh

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COVxy
10/26/20 5:53:53 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
No one is being let off the hook for being stupid. Trump just had significantly less political baggage than Clinton during the election.

Sure, but that doesn't mean that people didn't know what they were getting! Just that there was a lot more ammo to hit Hillary from all angles.

shockthemonkey posted...
I dont know why youre trying to pretend otherwise.

I'm not pretending about anything, I think maybe we had different readings of the same sentence, here.

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 5:53:56 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Google Hillary Clinton trust.
Not my job to prove your point for you.

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ButteryMales
10/26/20 5:57:56 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
Not my job to prove your point for you.
I don't care as long as I prove my point to someone else. Some people remember how little people trusted Hillary then.
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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 6:00:04 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
This is just a lie. They literally didnt know how Trump was going to govern. He said so much shit that a lot of his actual policy was hard to place. Just because you didnt buy it doesnt mean a lot of swing state voters didnt buy it.
Imagine being this desperate to justify your vote for him. Suddenly everything makes sense with you.

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1337toothbrush
10/26/20 6:01:19 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
We're talking about Clinton's ability to get people to vote for her so I don't even know what your post was supposed to counter.
Getting votes in the primaries =/= votes in the general. The contests are different. So you pointing out that she got more votes than Bernie during the democrat party popularity contest is stupid.

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COVxy
10/26/20 6:02:58 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
This is just a lie. They literally didnt know how Trump was going to govern. He said so much shit that a lot of his actual policy was hard to place. Just because you didnt buy it doesnt mean a lot of swing state voters didnt buy it.

You act as if Trump was running some sort of long con here. He literally ran on trying to imprison his political opponent, attempting to kick minorities out of the country for the sake of good old American jobs, anti-vaxx, etc, etc...

He wasn't hiding too much of anything lol.

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bevan306
10/26/20 6:05:00 PM
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friendly reminder that in a normal country, trump's cheerleading of a racist birther conspiracy theory against obama would have been enough "political baggage" to end his career. Constantly blaming clinton for 2016 (when she has been entirely vindicated with everything she said about trump btw), seems to be missing the the bigger issue, which is that your country is full of crazy morons. And they will remain even after trump leaves

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VitalGetPrank
10/26/20 6:06:24 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Getting votes in the primaries =/= votes in the general. The contests are different. So you pointing out that she got more votes than Bernie during the democrat party popularity contest is stupid.
You realized we've moved on from that discussion right? Maybe you should go back and read through since you don't seem to understand what we were talking about.

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