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Christian RULES
10/13/20 5:25:51 PM
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I know how Dems can get more votes. Biden should do a Pokemon Go rap with Hillary.

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EzeDoesIt
10/13/20 5:31:56 PM
#52:


Christian RULES posted...
I know how Dems can get more votes. Biden should do a Pokemon Go rap with Hillary.

You better Pokmon Go vote in this race, yo
My shits got better flow than what comes out Trumps face hole

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Nasty_Nitro
10/13/20 5:43:20 PM
#53:


EzeDoesIt posted...
You better Pokmon Go vote in this race, yo
My shits got better flow than what comes out Trumps face hole

BARS!

but rich old politicians should never ever use hip hop to appeal to the Urban Crowd it has the total opposite effect

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COVxy
10/13/20 7:57:47 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
This thing you do where you pretend that other people don't actually believe the things they do is bullshit.

Seems weird to me that you have any notion of possibility of congress passing M4A when ACA didn't even really pass.

It's not real policy, and even AOC acknowledges this, if we want to reference "leftist" celebrities.

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ZMythos
10/13/20 8:05:13 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Adding a public option to the ACA would do the same thing, and has an actual likelihood of passing
A public option would inevitably fail. Government programs should not be made to compete with private companies. The public option will either be undercut by private insurance through job benefits, or it will be severely underfunded with too little people paying into it. Healthcare should be the publicly funded default and private insurance should be extra for the people that can afford it.

See also: The Post Office.

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COVxy
10/13/20 8:06:55 PM
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ZMythos posted...
The public option will either be undercut by private insurance through job benefits

That's kinda the point, no? To provide a minimum standard to control the market by? So that government can control the price and quality of health insurance?

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Tyranthraxus
10/13/20 8:06:56 PM
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ZMythos posted...
A public option would inevitably fail. Government programs should not be made to compete with private companies. The public option will either be undercut by private insurance through job benefits, or it will be severely underfunded with too little people paying into it. Healthcare should be the publicly funded default and private insurance should be extra for the people that can afford it.

See also: The Post Office.

If a public option causes private insurance to become super cheap then I say mission accomplished.

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harley2280
10/13/20 8:10:18 PM
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COVxy posted...
ZMythos posted...
The public option will either be undercut by private insurance through job benefits

That's kinda the point, no? To provide a minimum standard to control the market by? So that government can control the price and quality of health insurance?

Yeah. That's exactly how Medicare works. There's a public option, and then there's Private options like a Medicare Advantage plan.
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ZMythos
10/13/20 8:11:46 PM
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COVxy posted...
That's kinda the point, no? To provide a minimum standard to control the market by? So that government can control the price and quality of health insurance?

Tyranthraxus posted...
If a public option causes private insurance to become super cheap then I say mission accomplished.

Problem is that with not enough funding (especially when Republicans get their greasy fingers in it), it'll eventually die out and private insurance will quickly return to the shit practices that are currently plaguing us today.

It also doesn't eliminate the issues with drug prices, networks, and the uninsured. The individual mandate is going to be fought in the courts for decades. If you just fund healthcare through taxes instead, you avoid all of these issues.

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Tyranthraxus
10/13/20 8:13:18 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Yeah. That's exactly how Medicare works. There's a public option, and then there's Private options like a Medicare Advantage plan.

There's different parts to Medicare. Part A / B (the big ones) don't have a public option. You just get them if you're eligible. You can tack on supplementary private insurance if you want.

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ZMythos
10/13/20 8:15:58 PM
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Bottom line is that healthcare, like education or the postal service, should not be handled like a business. It's a public service and should be treated/funded like one.

Everyone gets to go to a public school or use their local post office. No extra charges or strings attached. If you want to send your kid to a private school or use UPS for extra money, then you have the option, but you still pay taxes that fund your district and pay government employees like mailmen.

That's exactly how healthcare should work.

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harley2280
10/13/20 8:17:07 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
harley2280 posted...
Yeah. That's exactly how Medicare works. There's a public option, and then there's Private options like a Medicare Advantage plan.

There's different parts to Medicare. Part A / B (the big ones) don't have a public option. You just get them if you're eligible. You can tack on supplementary private insurance if you want.

Wrong. A/B are the public option. A Medicare Advantage Plan takes over your Medicare insurance, and is offered through Private insurance companies. A supplement is a secondary plan to Medicare A/B.

*Source I work for an insurance company in their Medicare division.
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Tyranthraxus
10/13/20 8:18:30 PM
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Really what's the price to buy Medicare part A?

(Source: on Medicare)

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harley2280
10/13/20 8:20:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Really what's the price to buy Medicare part A?

(Source: on Medicare)

Medicare part a is premium free as long as you contributed 10nyears worth of social security taxes towards it. Other wise it's like $455ish month. Part B on average is 144.60.
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creativerealms
10/13/20 8:21:10 PM
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The man is an idiot.

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Tyranthraxus
10/13/20 8:32:43 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Medicare part a is premium free as long as you contributed 10nyears worth of social security taxes towards it. Other wise it's like $455ish month. Part B on average is 144.60.
Turns out this is a 2018 development that happened after my time.

But it's still not a real public option. You must still meet the eligiblity requirements of part A. You cannot just buy it like you can with the ACA or a theoretical public ACA option.


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Cheater87
10/13/20 8:42:04 PM
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Biden and the DNC will NEVER give universal healthcare OR medicare for all.

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RainShower
10/13/20 8:43:23 PM
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must be targeting blacks.......

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MarvAlbert
10/13/20 9:38:30 PM
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Benjamin Sisko was a shit captain and lost his space station so many times. Janeway was a boss pimp who literally destroyed the Borg.

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EzeDoesIt
10/14/20 12:28:01 PM
#70:


Nasty_Nitro posted...
BARS!

but rich old politicians should never ever use hip hop to appeal to the Urban Crowd it has the total opposite effect

Thanks man, and yeah I agree.

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