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Doom_Art 10/08/20 10:55:41 AM #1:	Few hours in and I feel I've been given no incentive to explore or experiment with the levels. Everything is very laid out --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:945605828] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Few hours in and I feel I've been given no incentive to explore or experiment with the levels. Everything is very laid out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 10/08/20 10:59:44 AM #2:	I mean that was the point --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:945605994] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>I mean that was the point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/08/20 11:02:32 AM #3:	TheGoldenEel posted... I mean that was the point I don't like it --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:945606100] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>I mean that was the point</quote>I don't like it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/08/20 11:05:30 AM #4:	Galaxy was definitely designed to be much more linear than SM64 and Sunshine. It literally is not possible to find Stars that are not part of the mission that you are on, unlike in the previously two games. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:945606195] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Galaxy was definitely designed to be much more linear than SM64 and Sunshine. It literally is not possible to find Stars that are not part of the mission that you are on, unlike in the previously two games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 10/08/20 11:06:52 AM #5:	Solar_Crimson posted... It literally is not possible to find Stars that are not part of the mission that you are on eh, there are hidden stars beyond the main 3 that you can find in other missions, though i see your point --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:945606245] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>It literally is not possible to find Stars that are not part of the mission that you are on</quote>eh, there are hidden stars beyond the main 3 that you can find in other missions, though i see your point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/08/20 11:06:54 AM #6:	No shit? That's kind of the point. Although, while we're here, it bears repeating that linear =/= bad and nonlinear =/= good. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:945606247] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>No shit? That's kind of the point. Although, while we're here, it bears repeating that linear =/= bad and nonlinear =/= good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 10/08/20 11:07:52 AM #7:	Yeah it's supposed to be more linear. There are a couple of galaxies that give you a feel of openness, but obviously there's nothing comparable to anything in Sunshine. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:945606281] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's supposed to be more linear. There are a couple of galaxies that give you a feel of openness, but obviously there's nothing comparable to anything in Sunshine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 10/08/20 11:08:22 AM #8:	It's a platformer? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:945606292] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>It's a platformer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 10/08/20 11:08:53 AM #9:	Doom_Art posted... I don't like it Sorry, but yeah, that's the game. I personally love it. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:945606309] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote> I don't like it </quote> Sorry, but yeah, that's the game. I personally love it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/08/20 11:12:04 AM #10:	Squall28 posted... It's a platformer? I mean the previous two games were a lot more open than this And yea I agree that linear=/=bad, its just a tad unenjoyable in this particular instance I find. Makes the game a bit too handholdy for me. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:945606412] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>It's a platformer?</quote>I mean the previous two games were a lot more open than this And yea I agree that linear=/=bad, its just a tad unenjoyable in this particular instance I find. Makes the game a bit too handholdy for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 10/08/20 11:15:18 AM #11:	Doom_Art posted... I mean the previous two games were a lot more open than this And yea I agree that linear=/=bad, its just a tad unenjoyable in this particular instance I find. Makes the game a bit too handholdy for me. Maybe you'll enjoy Sea Slide Galaxy at least. Probably the most open galaxy in the game, and that aspect makes it one of my favorites. I like the linearity of Galaxy, but having at least one area that felt like Sunshine was really nice. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:945606530] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I mean the previous two games were a lot more open than this And yea I agree that linear=/=bad, its just a tad unenjoyable in this particular instance I find. Makes the game a bit too handholdy for me.</quote>Maybe you'll enjoy Sea Slide Galaxy at least. Probably the most open galaxy in the game, and that aspect makes it one of my favorites. I like the linearity of Galaxy, but having at least one area that felt like Sunshine was really nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/08/20 11:15:47 AM #12:	Late in the game you unlock the purple comets which entail some more exploratory stars, but yeah the idea was to replicate 2D platforming levels in 3D spaces. You should think of it as building on SMB3/World as much as, if not more so than 64/Sunshine --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:945606546] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Late in the game you unlock the purple comets which entail some more exploratory stars, but yeah the idea was to replicate 2D platforming levels in 3D spaces. You should think of it as building on SMB3/World as much as, if not more so than 64/Sunshine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/08/20 11:22:05 AM #13:	Antifar posted... Late in the game you unlock the purple comets which entail some more exploratory stars, but yeah the idea was to replicate 2D platforming levels in 3D spaces. You should think of it as building on SMB3/World as much as, if not more so than 64/Sunshine I think SM3DL and SM3DW did a far better job of it. Seems like a lot of stuff was done in SMG for the sake of convention with prior 3D Mario games and not because it was good design. The thing that really annoys me the most is that none of the levels are particularly large. I think the largest "open" map is Deep Dark Galaxy and it's not really any bigger than Dire Dire Docks. I would have loved just one really large version of "The Gate" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:945606786] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Late in the game you unlock the purple comets which entail some more exploratory stars, but yeah the idea was to replicate 2D platforming levels in 3D spaces. You should think of it as building on SMB3/World as much as, if not more so than 64/Sunshine</quote>I think SM3DL and SM3DW did a far better job of it. Seems like a lot of stuff was done in SMG for the sake of convention with prior 3D Mario games and not because it was good design. The thing that really annoys me the most is that none of the levels are particularly large. I think the largest "open" map is Deep Dark Galaxy and it's not really any bigger than Dire Dire Docks. I would have loved just one really large version of "The Gate" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 10/08/20 11:22:31 AM #14:	A bunch of people in the topic saying "That's the point DUH" as if that is somehow inherently conveyed to people who haven't played the game before. yall are dumb dumbs --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:945606800] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>A bunch of people in the topic saying "That's the point DUH" as if that is somehow inherently conveyed to people who haven't played the game before. yall are dumb dumbs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 10/08/20 11:24:00 AM #15:	Yeah it was a little lame, I wouldn't mind the linearity if they mixed in a few big planets instead of all these micro asteroids you're bouncing too and from --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:945606856] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it was a little lame, I wouldn't mind the linearity if they mixed in a few big planets instead of all these micro asteroids you're bouncing too and from </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/08/20 11:28:10 AM #16:	BignutzisBack posted... Yeah it was a little lame, I wouldn't mind the linearity if they mixed in a few big planets instead of all these micro asteroids you're bouncing too and from Yeah, I think my biggest problem even back then was that calling the areas "galaxies" made them seem bigger than they actually were. They more often than not were more like small solar systems, and a few of them just a single planet. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:945607013] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah it was a little lame, I wouldn't mind the linearity if they mixed in a few big planets instead of all these micro asteroids you're bouncing too and from</quote>Yeah, I think my biggest problem even back then was that calling the areas "galaxies" made them seem bigger than they actually were. They more often than not were more like small solar systems, and a few of them just a single planet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 10/08/20 11:43:52 AM #17:	It's linear and easy as shit, thus boring. The wonderful presentation and the spherical factor carries it for a playthrough I guess, but once that wears off it's a pretty weak 3D Mario game. --- Oda break tracker 2020- 8 (6) \| THE Ohio State: \| Las Vegas Raiders: 2-0 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:945607566] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>It's linear and easy as shit, thus boring. The wonderful presentation and the spherical factor carries it for a playthrough I guess, but once that wears off it's a pretty weak 3D Mario game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 10/08/20 11:44:26 AM #18:	The only thing I remember about Galaxy is how dead and soulless it was <cite>Lysandear posted [p:945607582] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>The only thing I remember about Galaxy is how dead and soulless it was </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlphaCuck 10/08/20 11:46:19 AM #19:	yeah its a lot like that game mario <cite>AlphaCuck posted [p:945607651] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>yeah its a lot like that game mario </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 10/08/20 11:46:22 AM #20:	Didn't play all of 2, but from what I remember the level design was wayyy better than a 1. --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:945607655] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Didn't play all of 2, but from what I remember the level design was wayyy better than a 1. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Theon_Greyjoy 10/08/20 11:46:55 AM #21:	https://www.gamereactor.es/media/93/_1979333.jpg Yellow is linear, red is exploration --- EndOfDiscOne <cite>Theon_Greyjoy posted [p:945607673] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gamereactor.es/media/93/_1979333.jpg Yellow is linear, red is exploration </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 10/08/20 11:47:10 AM #22:	Butterfiles posted... Didn't play all of 2, but from what I remember the level design was wayyy better than a 1. Correct --- Oda break tracker 2020- 8 (6) \| THE Ohio State: \| Las Vegas Raiders: 2-0 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:945607682] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't play all of 2, but from what I remember the level design was wayyy better than a 1. </quote> Correct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/09/20 8:26:57 AM #23:	Lysandear posted... The only thing I remember about Galaxy is how dead and soulless it was bro what --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:945645075] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>The only thing I remember about Galaxy is how dead and soulless it was</quote>bro what </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Theon_Greyjoy 10/09/20 8:50:18 AM #24:	Garioshi posted... bro what It's Lysandear. Have you ever seen him have a good opinion? --- EndOfDiscOne <cite>Theon_Greyjoy posted [p:945645550] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite> <quote>bro what</quote>It's Lysandear. Have you ever seen him have a good opinion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/09/20 8:53:41 AM #25:	Theon_Greyjoy posted... It's Lysandear. Have you ever seen him have a good opinion? you have a point --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:945645634] in Is it just... [t:79027509]...</cite> <quote>Theon_Greyjoy posted... </cite> <quote>It's Lysandear. Have you ever seen him have a good opinion?</quote>you have a point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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