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OudeGeuze
09/27/20 11:42:58 AM
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Considering billions of bees die every year via almond farming
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coh
09/27/20 11:44:34 AM
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This is the problem with vegan/vegetarians.

They think they're saving animals by not eating meat, but animals are still killed in other ways
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Geisterdrache
09/27/20 11:46:53 AM
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Haha got em now

coh posted...
This is the problem with vegan/vegetarians.

They think they're saving animals by not eating meat, but animals are still killed in other ways
Theres a distinct difference between animals being killed incidentally, and animals being killed on purpose, but you know that Also more agriculture is used to feed livestock than would be required for an entirely vegan populace so spare me

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Barber102
09/27/20 11:47:37 AM
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Animals lose their habitats due to mass deforestation for farms. Soy alone is why the brazilian government is okay with the amazon burning.

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Returning_CEmen
09/27/20 11:48:22 AM
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Same about figs
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OudeGeuze
09/27/20 11:49:18 AM
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Geisterdrache posted...
Haha got em now

Theres a distinct difference between animals being killed incidentally, and animals being killed on purpose, but you know that Also more agriculture is used to feed livestock than would be required for an entirely vegan populace so spare me
I would argue animals being killed in a controlled, purposeful way for food (even if the methodology is cruel) isnt nearly as bad as reckless slaughter via almond farming.
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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 11:53:29 AM
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Geisterdrache posted...
animals being killed on purpose, but you know that

They're killed on purpose to feed humanity, but you know that.

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coh
09/27/20 11:54:27 AM
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the fact is, animals are going to die either way such as to protect the crops
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discodancer77
09/27/20 11:54:54 AM
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Barber102 posted...
Animals lose their habitats due to mass deforestation for farms. Soy alone is why the brazilian government is okay with the amazon burning.

90% of the soy or some huge number like that is set aside for animal feed, not for humans to eat

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TheLiarParadox
09/27/20 11:56:51 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
I would argue animals being killed in a controlled, purposeful way for food (even if the methodology is cruel) isnt nearly as bad as reckless slaughter via almond farming.
The good news is that when you inefficiently grow crops to feed to animals for humans to consume, you get all of that.

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Geisterdrache
09/27/20 1:32:53 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
They're killed on purpose to feed humanity, but you know that.
Humans are not obligate omnivores. Go get suspended for racist shitposting and shut up

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FursonaNonGrata
09/27/20 1:36:32 PM
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I think you're the first person to ever think of this TC.

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Compsognathus
09/27/20 1:45:32 PM
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These are never the gotchas people think they are.

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OudeGeuze
09/27/20 2:49:34 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
These are never the gotchas people think they are.
Its not a gotcha. I'm actually curious as to why vegans are okay with consuming almonds which have extremely unsustainable farming methods that are also extremely dangerous to bees and the environment as a whole
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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 2:56:39 PM
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Geisterdrache posted...
Humans are not obligate omnivores. Go get suspended for racist shitposting and shut up

Why are you so upset?

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Smackems
09/27/20 2:57:48 PM
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Almonds can also be milked like a cow so there's that

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 2:58:55 PM
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Smackems posted...
Almonds can also be milked like a cow so there's that

Show me a tit on an almond.

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Smackems
09/27/20 2:59:40 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Show me a tit on an almond.
I would get suspended

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coh
09/27/20 3:03:21 PM
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dolomedes posted...
everything you fuckin' eat has a terrible backstory unless you grew it yourself
So then nobody is morally superior unless they grow their own food
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Smackems
09/27/20 3:03:27 PM
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We should just eat soylent green tbh

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Irony
09/27/20 3:03:39 PM
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dolomedes posted...
because that has nothing to do with a vegan diet
It does

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DDirtyDastard
09/27/20 3:07:23 PM
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Do vegans eat fungus?
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Smackems
09/27/20 3:10:31 PM
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dolomedes posted...
yes

[another gotcha b/c fungi are more closely related to animals than they are to plants]
Fuckin wot

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Smackems
09/27/20 3:12:22 PM
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dolomedes posted...
we're both opisthokonts :D
Hmm.. Thought I was feeling a bit opisthokonty today

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Barber102
09/27/20 3:14:42 PM
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coh posted...
So then nobody is morally superior unless they grow their own food

no, no one is morally superior about what they eat period. Killing and eating plants is just as much murder as it is to kill and eat animals. Sooner people realize that the better no diet is better morally each and every approach results in the end of a life form. People just value animals more than plants. Despite the fact that we cant exist without plants.

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coh
09/27/20 3:16:36 PM
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Barber102 posted...
no, no one is morally superior about what they eat period. Killing and eating plants is just as much murder as it is to kill and eat animals. Sooner people realize that the better no diet is better morally each and every approach results in the end of a life form. People just value animals more than plants. Despite the fact that we cant exist without plants.
I mean, I don't disagree with you. Tell that to the smug vegans though
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Barber102
09/27/20 3:18:29 PM
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dolomedes posted...
the animals humans eat need to eat plants to live, so why not cut out the middle man and just eat plants?

and where do you suppose the animals go when we cut down their homes for the farms required to produce all the vegetables? The world isn minecraft with infinite land.

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Smackems
09/27/20 3:19:31 PM
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Actually we should probably all starve and let the animals have the planet because they're better than us anyway

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CRON
09/27/20 3:23:01 PM
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dolomedes posted...
lol @ anti-veg ppl

get a fuckin hobby
Someone's upset, lol

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 3:23:05 PM
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Smackems posted...
I would get suspended

It's a male almond tit. You'll be fine.

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Smackems
09/27/20 3:23:33 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
It's a male almond tit. You'll be fine.
Can't milk those though

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Paragon21XX
09/27/20 3:24:41 PM
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Life is just a cluster of empty desires. We build our lives on the corpses of others. We kill cows, pigs, birds, fish and plants... and if we don't, we die. Our appetites are whetted by the slaughtering of others. Our desire for sleep only proves our laziness. Our sexual desires are expressed through obscenity and sin. All the things that keep us alive, the things that drive us, are filthy. We can't live without them. There is no such thing as a life of purity. Ultimately... from the moment we are born, we are already corrupted.
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Mez Static Merizer
09/27/20 3:25:49 PM
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More animals still die in the harvesting of food for the animals alone killed for consumption than the harvesting of fruits, vegetables, and grains for human consumption.

http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc/
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LostForest
09/27/20 3:26:12 PM
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A better gotcha for vegans is this:

Generally vegans consider honey to be a no-no because they see it as exploitative of animals, and equates to stealing their food.
But, honeybees, including wild ones, are at severe risk of becoming endangered, due to factors like increased populations of varoa mites, and colony collapse disorder, neither of which appear to be man-made.

However, by domesticating honeybees, humans are now actively protecting them from these risk factors, which in turn is only benefiting honeybees.

tl;Dr
Wild honeybees are at risk, but honey farming is a mutualistic relationship that is protecting bees.

So then why are vegans still opposed to beekeeping and consuming honey?

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 3:27:26 PM
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Smackems posted...
Can't milk those though

That's it, your misandristic outlook on the male-almond has gone too far.

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Barber102
09/27/20 3:34:09 PM
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dolomedes posted...
you realize most of the food we grow is fed to animals we eat, right?

we would grow less plants if people didn't eat meat.

most of the food being grown for the animals we eat would be replaced by only a fraction of the variety if we all switched to a pure vegetable diet. I dont think youre factoring in what it would take for 7 billion + people, vegetables variety etc.

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Background_Guy
09/27/20 3:37:58 PM
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I don't get why the existence of vegans makes some people so mad
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Smackems
09/27/20 3:40:00 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
That's it, your misandristic outlook on the male-almond has gone too far.
Down with almond patriarchy

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