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Mezcla
09/24/20 11:41:18 AM
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they have a near monopoly on the pc gaming market and what do they do with all the billions of dollars they rake in?

fucking nothing.
probably use it for shitty Artifact prize pools to get people to play that shitty game. here come play Dota 2 for 50 million dollars lololol who actually plays dota 2 anyway!?

oh but wait half life alyx. oh cool. like what, 0.1% of pc gamers got to play it. hooray. and it doesn't even add anything to the god damn story those FUCKS

at least Epic is out there innovating. improving their engine that literally everyone uses. investing in companies and putting small indie games into the hands of gamers out of their expense. thank you god damn.

but valve? what the hell do they do for the gaming industry besides sell shit? the STEAM CONTROLLER?

FUCK VALVE
FUCK GABEN

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Poop2
09/24/20 11:41:57 AM
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did you just call me a "fuck valve"?
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Veggeta X
09/24/20 11:42:01 AM
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but half life 2 is the best game ever made!!!! they dont have any cutscenes!!! just scenes that you stand around watching

revolutionary

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ThePieReborn
09/24/20 11:45:08 AM
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How dare you.

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AloofHermit
09/24/20 11:45:20 AM
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epic games store is shit

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Dragon239
09/24/20 11:47:00 AM
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I mean
Yeah, basically.
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apolloooo
09/24/20 11:47:43 AM
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AloofHermit posted...
epic games store is shit


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Veggeta X
09/24/20 11:49:57 AM
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AloofHermit posted...
epic games store is shit
People never knew they were to loyal to Steam until Epic started gaining some ground. I beg you guys to realize this about yourself.

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SuperShake666
09/24/20 11:56:04 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
People never knew they were to loyal to Steam until Epic started gaining some ground. I beg you guys to realize this about yourself.

What if we want a store to have basic shit like a shopping cart?

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MACisBack
09/24/20 11:57:26 AM
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I buy where the game is cheapest.

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 11:57:41 AM
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This will be the 100th time I've said this but imagine thinking not having a shopping cart is a deal breaker. Oh no I can't buy two games at once, let's start WW3.

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Guide
09/24/20 12:00:59 PM
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I... I really like having a well functioning store.

And I really like epic's free shit, though it's not like that gives me incentive to purchase anything from them.

So, just use both. One is a proper store, one is a free game vendor.

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Guide
09/24/20 12:02:13 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
This will be the 100th time I've said this but imagine thinking not having a shopping cart is a deal breaker. Oh no I can't buy two games at once, let's start WW3.

I'm not sure what it is with you and framing, but it makes no sense.

What is WW3 here? Saying their store sucks and not using it?

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:03:29 PM
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Guide posted...
I'm not sure what it is with you and framing, but it makes no sense.

What is WW3 here? Saying their store sucks and not using it?
No problem. I can reiterate myself. People reach for trivial shit and act like it's a deal breaker which is fine but you're gonna be called out on it.

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Guide
09/24/20 12:07:03 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
No problem. I can reiterate myself. People reach for trivial shit and act like it's a deal breaker which is fine but you're gonna be called out on it.

Good luck defining it as trivial.

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sauceje
09/24/20 12:10:04 PM
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Man people on CE are full of hate and contempt for things that barely affect anyone. One week everyone's hate bonering on Nintendo, the other week it's the whole Steam x Epic Store debacle for what must be the 7th time so far? Goddamn y'all need to chill

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Guide
09/24/20 12:14:26 PM
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sauceje posted...
Man people on CE are full of hate and contempt for things that barely affect anyone. One week everyone's hate bonering on Nintendo, the other week it's the whole Steam x Epic Store debacle for what must be the 7th time so far? Goddamn y'all need to chill

I had almost forgotten, but I recall the main factor being introducing the completely arbitrary exclusives fight to the digital space. Which, yes, it is very annoying to need another launcher and account managed, especially when it is slow and messy, to get maybe the few games you really want, when you already have your whole collection neat and ordered just the way you like it.

Fortunately, they gave out the Alto Collection for free, so now I mostly don't care.

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:17:51 PM
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Guide posted...
Good luck defining it as trivial.
There's no need for luck. If you have eyes and can read you can plainly see people doing this but then again you're you so....

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:19:08 PM
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Guide posted...
I had almost forgotten, but I recall the main factor being introducing the completely arbitrary exclusives fight to the digital space. Which, yes, it is very annoying to need another launcher and account managed, especially when it is slow and messy, to get maybe the few games you really want, when you already have your whole collection neat and ordered just the way you like it.

Fortunately, they gave out the Alto Collection for free, so now I mostly don't care.
Hilarious that there's only too many launchers out there when Epic did it.

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TendoDRM
09/24/20 12:22:54 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Hilarious that there's only too many launchers out there when Epic did it.
People have been complaining about this for years, since Origin and Uplay.

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:23:34 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
People have been complaining about this for years, since Origin and Uplay.
If they have it's frails compared to what's happening now.

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sauceje
09/24/20 12:24:52 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
If they have it's frails compared to what's happening now.
Ubisoft and Origin keep only their own games on their own launcher, which makes sense. Epic is paying unrelated devs for exclusivity, which is scummy of them (good for the devs tho).

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:29:38 PM
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sauceje posted...
Ubisoft and Origin keep only their own games on their own launcher, which makes sense. Epic is paying unrelated devs for exclusivity, which is scummy of them (good for the devs tho).
I've seen this argument and:

  1. Steam has done the same in buying exclusives before
  2. The blame falls on the Devs for selling it to EPic

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harley2280
09/24/20 12:30:30 PM
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I try not to fund the Chinese government. My own taxes are funding concentration camps, I don't need to help another country with that shit.
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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:33:45 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I try not to fund the Chinese government. My own taxes are funding concentration camps, I don't need to help another country with that shit.
Don't mean to ruin your plan but Tencent is on Steam too.

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harley2280
09/24/20 12:37:35 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
harley2280 posted...
I try not to fund the Chinese government. My own taxes are funding concentration camps, I don't need to help another country with that shit.
Don't mean to ruin your plan but Tencent is on Steam too.

I don't purchase their games. The only thing that's about impossible to avoid though is the fucking unreal engine.
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Mezcla
09/24/20 12:40:32 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I try not to fund the Chinese government. My own taxes are funding concentration camps, I don't need to help another country with that shit.
*he said typing on a computer made in china*

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:41:53 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I don't purchase their games. The only thing that's about impossible to avoid though is the fucking unreal engine.
It doesn't matter. Steam stills hosts these evil Chinese games!

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harley2280
09/24/20 12:47:19 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
harley2280 posted...
I don't purchase their games. The only thing that's about impossible to avoid though is the fucking unreal engine.
It doesn't matter. Steam stills hosts these evil Chinese games!

You're misconstruing it on purpose. Also the Chinese People aren't Evil you weird fucking racist.
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VonOrdelia
09/24/20 12:49:30 PM
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Mezcla posted...
they have a near monopoly on the pc gaming market
"I don't know what a monopoly is"

A steam topic? Time for not vegy to troll!

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:52:20 PM
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Quit making exceptions to your precious Steam.

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Guide
09/24/20 12:54:53 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
"I don't know what a monopoly is"

A steam topic? Time for not vegy to troll!

mezcla makes sense more than half the time, can't be vegg.

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VonOrdelia
09/24/20 12:56:00 PM
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Mez is alright but not vegy only argues disingenuously

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 12:56:37 PM
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I always argue in good faith.

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AbstraktProfSC2
09/24/20 12:56:50 PM
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Alyx DID add to the story though...

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Mezcla
09/24/20 1:00:21 PM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
Alyx DID add to the story though...
no it did not.

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fan357
09/24/20 1:08:32 PM
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Mezcla posted...
they have a near monopoly on the pc gaming market and what do they do with all the billions of dollars they rake in?

fucking nothing.
probably use it for shitty Artifact prize pools to get people to play that shitty game. here come play Dota 2 for 50 million dollars lololol who actually plays dota 2 anyway!?

oh but wait half life alyx. oh cool. like what, 0.1% of pc gamers got to play it. hooray. and it doesn't even add anything to the god damn story those FUCKS

at least Epic is out there innovating. improving their engine that literally everyone uses. investing in companies and putting small indie games into the hands of gamers out of their expense. thank you god damn.

but valve? what the hell do they do for the gaming industry besides sell shit? the STEAM CONTROLLER?

FUCK VALVE
FUCK GABEN

Alyx was amazing. And it did add something to the story.

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VonOrdelia
09/24/20 1:09:41 PM
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Alyx was great *shrug*

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Pandamonic
09/24/20 1:13:37 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
but half life 2 is the best game ever made!!!!

Exactly!

I want to thank Valve for creating this awesome game.
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sauceje
09/24/20 1:13:56 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I've seen this argument and:

Steam has done the same in buying exclusives before
The blame falls on the Devs for selling it to EPic
  1. When?
  2. Why is it the dev's fault? It would be stupid for them to not take the deal, especially if they're small indie studios (although I do not approve of bigger companies like Remedy and 2K taking the deal, it's still free money at no extra effort from them).

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Veggeta X
09/24/20 1:16:40 PM
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sauceje posted...
When?
Dunno any off the top of my head.

sauceje posted...
Why is it the dev's fault? It would be stupid for them to not take the deal, especially if they're small indie studios (although I do not approve of bigger companies like Remedy and 2K taking the deal, it's still free money at no extra effort from them).
Wait, so Epic is evil for buying exclusives? Is anyone else evil for this?

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sauceje
09/24/20 1:24:03 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Wait, so Epic is evil for buying exclusives? Is anyone else evil for this?
I never said they were evil. I consider it heavy-handed and anti-consumer, but they are helping out a bunch of indie studios by dumping money on them, so it's obviously a matter of point of view. I don't like it and I think that's all that needs to be said anymore.

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