Current Events > A delivery charge is a tip, right?

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I always tip $4.xx, with the change making the dollar amount even for my order. That's in addition to the delivery fee.

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An_Actual_Chad posted...

I always tip $4.xx, with the change making the dollar amount even for my order. That's in addition to the delivery fee.

You should stop ordering delivery and just go get it. You're paying $10 more than the pizza is even worth just in fees and niceties.

You're raising the price of your pizza by like 60%

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Pretty much why I stopped. The pizza is under $9 and with fee and tip I'm paying $10. Gas there and back is under $2-3.

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No it's not a tip. But I don't tip delivery drivers or waiters anyways. Never will.

A tip?? Bitch you fat. You want a tip???? Quit eating. There's your fuckin tip.

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LikeImmolation posted...

You should stop ordering delivery and just go get it. You're paying $10 more than the pizza is even worth just in fees and niceties.

You're raising the price of your pizza by like 60%

It's the price for convenience. I order delivery when I dont feel like getting off my ass and going somewhere or cooking.

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I know. And I'm saying you're spending $20 a month in convenience each month on those 2 pizzas you have delivered.

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How is it not illegal to not pay your employees minimum wage?

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If you've ever used doordash/grubhub/any of these other services, and used delivery fee as an excuse not to tip, this is why your order takes an hour extra to be picked up.

Those drivers see how much they're getting paid for the job up front. Ain't nobody gonna pick up a $3 job to drive your chipotle burrito 10 miles, then take the 10 mile trek back.


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LikeImmolation posted...

I know. And I'm saying you're spending $20 a month in convenience each month on those 2 pizzas you have delivered.

Yeah but everything is going to be okay.

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fail

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people who tip are cringe. they just want to be liked so they go around winking handing out $5 bills saying keep the change. it also gives them a sense if superiority

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shockthemonkey posted...

Delivery fee isnt a tip. If you cant afford to tip, you cant afford to get delivery.

Because if you raise the prices then everyone will realiz how scummy your company is so it is better to let the customer take the blame on being "scummy" by promoting a shaming culture to say non-tipers suck. Then you let CE continue shaming everyone for no tips and you are done.

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southcoast09 posted...

Nope. It goes to the store and not to the driver. Its predatory and should be abolished, but theres no way around it and it does NOT count as a tip.

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Also I know CE likes to play the Mr. Pink roleplay with this subject but a few things

*20% is standard, not 15% or 10%.

*Delivery drivers do not get paid via the delivery charge. That is predatory shit from the restaurant (rarely) or the delivery service (likely.) Still tip the driver, but subtract the delivery charge from the total first.

*If your drink was bad, food was bad, they were out of options, the bathroom didn't have toilet paper or your mom died -- it's not the servers fault. They are the middleman. Only subtract or neglect to tip if their personality, service, or punctuality is bad.

*Servers and bartenders often make $2.50 or less an hour which is just customary to cover their taxes. If you don't tip, they work for free. Period.

*You do not need to tip on food to go (pickup from a place), and it is not frowned upon by workers if you don't. Tip the bartender for making your drinks to go, however.

What I've seen happen if you don't tip enough times to become a regular:

Your drinks will be watered down if you stiff the bartender and he/she knows you.

The server will literally not give a flying fuck about what you need and will check on you once for drinks, once for food, and ignore you thereafter. Refills are not happening. They will also ring in your stuff late or whenever they feel like.

A particularly vengeful waitress told the kitchen about a non-tipping regular one time and they purposefully held off on making their food for an hour to try and get them to leave.

Napkins, silverware, to go boxes are all optional. You may also get your check abruptly dropped halfway through your cold meal. If you become a non-tipping regular I've seen most places make it an effort to not get you to return.

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

If you've ever used doordash/grubhub/any of these other services, and used delivery fee as an excuse not to tip, this is why your order takes an hour extra to be picked up.

Those drivers see how much they're getting paid for the job up front. Ain't nobody gonna pick up a $3 job to drive your chipotle burrito 10 miles, then take the 10 mile trek back.

I made about $60 last night in 2.5 hrs for 6 orders. I try to stick with $9/$10+ orders, or orders that are at least $1/mile. Any $3 order is an instant decline

From what I understand, however, and this definitely seems to be the case with UE, the more an order is declined, the more UE/DD will kick in for the base pay to try to get the order filled.

Its entirely possible that a non-tip order could get up to the point where it would be worth the drive and a driver will take it, but it would have to go through many declines before getting to that point.

You really cant think of tips on DD/UE as tips, honestly. Its all an additional service fee to the drivers to make the order worth it or not. Need your food now? Youd better pay up. If you dont mind waiting, by all means try to put it through without a tip if you so chose and hope someone eventually grabs it.

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CraziestCal posted...

How is it not illegal to not pay your employees minimum wage?

Tipped minimum wage is still $2.13. They pay drivers on average about $4-5/hr while they're delivering and classify the position as a tipped wage position. Only when a delivery driver is standing in the store are they making minimum wage (usually).

The delivery charge isn't a tip.

The only way the companies will reduce or lose the delivery charge to open up proper tipping again is if everyone stops ordering the service.

Guess what the people in this goddamn country won't do?

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CommunismFTW posted...

Also I know CE likes to play the Mr. Pink roleplay with this subject but a few things

*20% is standard, not 15% or 10%.

*Delivery drivers do not get paid via the delivery charge. That is predatory shit from the restaurant (rarely) or the delivery service (likely.) Still tip the driver, but subtract the delivery charge from the total first.

*If your drink was bad, food was bad, they were out of options, the bathroom didn't have toilet paper or your mom died -- it's not the servers fault. They are the middleman. Only subtract or neglect to tip if their personality, service, or punctuality is bad.

*Servers and bartenders often make $2.50 or less an hour which is just customary to cover their taxes. If you don't tip, they work for free. Period.

*You do not need to tip on food to go (pickup from a place), and it is not frowned upon by workers if you don't. Tip the bartender for making your drinks to go, however.

What I've seen happen if you don't tip enough times to become a regular:

Your drinks will be watered down if you stiff the bartender and he/she knows you.

The server will literally not give a flying fuck about what you need and will check on you once for drinks, once for food, and ignore you thereafter. Refills are not happening. They will also ring in your stuff late or whenever they feel like.

A particularly vengeful waitress told the kitchen about a non-tipping regular one time and they purposefully held off on making their food for an hour to try and get them to leave.

Napkins, silverware, to go boxes are all optional. You may also get your check abruptly dropped halfway through your cold meal. If you become a non-tipping regular I've seen most places make it an effort to not get you to return.

lmfao

Glad I don't have to deal with this tipping scam

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CommunismFTW posted...

What I've seen happen if you don't tip enough times to become a regular:

Your drinks will be watered down if you stiff the bartender and he/she knows you.

The server will literally not give a flying f*** about what you need and will check on you once for drinks, once for food, and ignore you thereafter. Refills are not happening. They will also ring in your stuff late or whenever they feel like.

A particularly vengeful waitress told the kitchen about a non-tipping regular one time and they purposefully held off on making their food for an hour to try and get them to leave.

Napkins, silverware, to go boxes are all optional. You may also get your check abruptly dropped halfway through your cold meal. If you become a non-tipping regular I've seen most places make it an effort to not get you to return.

Basically, what I read is "tip me or I shit on your food". It's very hard to feel sympathetic to individuals who would purposely give poor service because they didn't receive extra cash for doing their job like everyone else in the world. Thank you for showing me who the "bigger man" is.

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Looked gf posted...

lmfao

Glad I don't have to deal with this tipping scam

Yamata_Demon posted...

Basically, what I read is "tip me or I shit on your food". It's very hard to feel sympathetic to individuals who would purposely give poor service because they didn't receive extra cash for doing their job like everyone else in the world. Thank you for showing me who the "bigger man" is.

I mean I don't even get paid tips anymore so it's not me you're talking to. I was almost always management in food service for my 20's.

The idea is, tipping is not "extra cash". If you don't tip there is no pay. Imagine hiring a contractor to fix your bathroom then you send them home with $0. That's the idea. Tip is not extra, you are their salary. America is one of the few countries left still doing that bullshit and why other countries pay their employees fair wages and discourage tips. It is absurd to leave the salary of an employee to the public, because the public are assholes, like CE in this topic. What I shared is just the tip of the iceberg on what service people do if they know you won't tip them out of the gate no matter what. I've seen much, much worse.

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KalimariX8 posted...

No it's not

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Someone at Subway just tipped me $3 to deliver Chinese food literally across the street to them.


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