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Solid Snake07
08/30/20 6:06:28 PM
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I don't blame her for how she feels, but it's not really related to the shooting.

What is related to the shooting is the fact that this guy was resisting, had been tased already, was armed with a knife and reaching into his car.

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 6:08:33 PM
#53:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I don't blame her for how she feels, but it's not really related to the shooting.

What is related to the shooting is the fact that this guy was resisting, had been tased already, was armed with a knife and reaching into his car.
I'm sure the man with multiple guns trained on him would have been able to spin around and stab them all. Knives have a greater range than guns after all.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 6:10:19 PM
#54:


hockeybub89 posted...
In one post you're saying he should be arrested and tried in a fair trial. But it's ok to shoot people in the back if they're wanted for crimes? So what's the point of the fair trial? Just in case they survive the execution?
He was resisting arrest and was an immediate threat to his kids

Can we not tell the difference between a more standard arrest when said person is no longer an active threat compared to someone who is in the midst of putting other's lives in danger?
And yes that 17 yo whote kid shpuld have been arrested too.

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 6:12:46 PM
#55:


GS4Life posted...
He was resisting arrest and was an immediate threat to his kids

Can we not tell the difference between a more standard arrest when said person is no longer an active threat compared to someone who is in the midst of putting other's lives in danger?
And yes that 17 yo whote kid shpuld have been arrested too.
He was shot in the back. I think you care too much about what kind of a person he was. It doesn't matter. The cop is wrong even if he is wrong.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 6:12:52 PM
#56:


hockeybub89 posted...
I'm sure the man with multiple guns trained on him would have been able to spin around and stab them all. Knives have a greater range than guns after all.
He wouldn't have stabbed all 3 officers but he potientially could have injured/killed the one closest to him or gone after the kids with a knife.

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Poop2
08/30/20 6:14:11 PM
#57:


More proof hes scum
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TopKekBro
08/30/20 6:15:06 PM
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I am not surprised . Wohl feels he is above the law

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 6:16:16 PM
#59:


GS4Life posted...
He wouldn't have stabbed all 3 officers but he potientially could have injured/killed the one closest to him or gone after the kids with a knife.
Ah so cops can be judge/jury/executioner if they look into the future and see potential crime. They could have stepped out of knife range and shot him if he actually made a move with a weapon.

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Solid Snake07
08/30/20 6:18:55 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I'm sure the man with multiple guns trained on him would have been able to spin around and stab them all. Knives have a greater range than guns after all.


Point being, I don't have much sympathy for someone who's armed and being violently resistant. He was reaching/getting into his car, which is a wildly unsafe thing for him, the cops, and anyone else around.

Should he have been shot? I don't know, I wasn't there and don't know enough to say anything definitively one way or the other. But let's not pretend this guy is an angel and has no culpability in what transpired here.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 6:21:41 PM
#61:


Next time we get a violent assilant resisting arrest and reaching for a weapon in car full of kids he's not suppose to be around just let him have it what's the worst that could happen?

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 6:22:24 PM
#62:


Solid Snake07 posted...
Point being, I don't have much sympathy for someone who's armed and being violently resistant. He was reaching/getting into his car, which is a wildly unsafe thing for him, the cops, and anyone else around.

Should he have been shot? I don't know, I wasn't there and don't know enough to say anything definitively one way or the other. But let's not pretend this guy is an angel and has no culpability in what transpired here.
His identity is irrelevant. All I ever see "he was no saint" used for is to remove culpability from the cops. Spare me the both sides bullshit when the entire agenda is to help a side win.

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Solid Snake07
08/30/20 6:26:10 PM
#63:


hockeybub89 posted...
His identity is irrelevant. All I ever see "he was no saint" used for is to remove culpability from the cops. Spare me the both sides bullshit when the entire agenda is to help a side win.


When I say he isn't an angel with no culpability I'm specifically talking about the shooting and what lead up to it.

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Slayerblade11
08/30/20 6:27:36 PM
#64:


hockeybub89 posted...
His identity is irrelevant. All I ever see "he was no saint" used for is to remove culpability from the cops. Spare me the both sides bullshit when the entire agenda is to help a side win.

Him being a career criminal with a warrent out for his arrest is the entire reason he is in this mess. He was shot for resisting arrest and endangering people.
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hockeybub89
08/30/20 6:28:17 PM
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GS4Life posted...
Next time we get a violent assilant resisting arrest and reaching for a weapon in car full of kids he's not suppose to be around just let him have it what's the worst that could happen?
This is the first I heard of him kidnapping the children. Where was the violence in this ordeal? Shooting should be the worst case scenario, not a preemptive action to stop a potential problem. I'm literally telling you I would have been ok with them shooting him, killing him even, if it actually played out like you say it potentially could have.

You keep bringing up his character like it means anything, not that all those cops knew his history at that moment anyway.


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TheGoldenEel
08/30/20 6:31:02 PM
#66:


I believe this twitter account that exclusively posts pro-trump propaganda

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GS4Life
08/30/20 6:36:49 PM
#67:


hockeybub89 posted...
This is the first I heard of him kidnapping the children. Where was the violence in this ordeal? Shooting should be the worst case scenario, not a preemptive action to stop a potential problem. I'm literally telling you I would have been ok with them shooting him, killing him even, if it actually played out like you say it potentially could have.

You keep bringing up his character like it means anything, not that all those cops knew his history at that moment anyway.
What do you mean the police didn't know his history? Proof? He had the cops called on him because he was violating a restraining order and was also wanted for domestic abuse and sexual assualt, he resisted arrest and was reaching for a weapon you can't always wait for a worst case scenario when someone is an active threat.

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Bishop9800
08/30/20 6:40:40 PM
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GS4Life posted...
Well he wanted for alleged rape, domestic abuse, and had the cops called on him because he wasn't letting a women who filed a restraining on him leave with her kids.

I thought the story was that he was there breaking up some fight when the cops showed up. Thats the story coming outta Kenosha.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 6:41:00 PM
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https://www.lawofficer.com/details-behind-jacob-blakes-arrest-warrant/

Blake, 29, was forbidden from going to the Kenosha home of his alleged victim from the May 3 incident, and police were dispatched Sunday following a 911 call saying he was there. The officers were aware he had an active warrant, according to dispatch records, though its not clear if they knew the specific allegations of violence.
Blake is accused in the criminal complaint, which was obtained by The Post, of breaking into the home of a woman he knew and sexually assaulting her.
The victim, who is only identified by her initials in the paperwork, told police she was asleep in bed with one of her children when Blake came into the room around 6 a.m. and allegedly said I want my sh-t, the record states.
She told police that Blake used his finger to sexually assault her, sniffed it and said, Smells like youve been with other men, the criminal complaint alleges.
The officer who took her statement said she had a very difficult time telling him this and cried as she told how the defendant assaulted her.
The listed victim said Blake penetrating her digitally caused her pain and humiliation and was done without her consent and she was very humiliated and upset by the sexual assault, the record states.
She told police she was upset but collected herself and then allegedly ran out the front door after Blake, the complaint says. She then realized her car was missing, checked her purse and saw the keys were missing and then immediately called 911, the complaint says.
The listed victim told police she has known him for eight years and claims that he physically assaults her around twice a year when he drinks heavily.
Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when a warrant was issued for his arrest.

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Dark_SilverX
08/30/20 6:45:16 PM
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Damn! If that's true then he needs to stay hand-cuffed to that bed.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 7:11:28 PM
#71:


Dark_SilverX posted...
Damn! If that's true then he needs to stay hand-cuffed to that bed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jacob-blake-warrant-arrest-vacated-no-handcuffs-hospital-bed/

Well he was initially handcuffed to the bed but officially made bail

The way CBS words it is a tad confusing. But there was call placed on him specifically for trespassing


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I4NRulez
08/30/20 7:17:59 PM
#72:


I never understood what people dont get.

The issue isnt that black people arent guilty ever.

Its cops shouldnt go around shooting black people indiscriminately.

If he's a criminal he should be arrested and sent to court to face trial. The cops arent Judge Dredd for shits sake.

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Monolith1676
08/30/20 7:21:44 PM
#73:


I4NRulez posted...
I never understood what people dont get.

The issue isnt that black people arent guilty ever.

Its cops shouldnt go around shooting black people indiscriminately.

If he's a criminal he should be arrested and sent to court to face trial. The cops arent Judge Dredd for shits sake.

If criminals went with the program when being arrested it would go smoothly 99% of the time.

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Grischnak
08/30/20 7:23:26 PM
#74:


Blake was a piece of shit but he didn't deserve to get shot for it. He did however deserve to get shot for resisting arrest and reaching into his car. I love how damn near every one of these cop stories involve people resisting arrest. It's almost like resisting arrest is...not a good idea. Maybe instead of burning the country down we can just teach young men to not resist arrest? ... Nah. That's crazy talk. How dare people be taught to act responsibility. Lets just give criminals a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want and hold "the system" responsible.
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I4NRulez
08/30/20 7:24:47 PM
#75:


Monolith1676 posted...
If criminals went with the program when being arrested it would go smoothly 99% of the time.

Sure, but are you saying if criminals decide to run or dont believe they've committed a crime that they should be murdered?

Cause cops arent just shooting the people that are threats to their lives.

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GS4Life
08/30/20 7:26:26 PM
#76:


Don't get me wrong Freddy Grey, Eric Garner, George Floyd, and Breanna Taylor were mudered because of police racism/brutality

We still need major police reform and a lot better training

But in Blake was still very much an active threat when he was shot

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I4NRulez
08/30/20 7:29:26 PM
#77:


GS4Life posted...
Don't get me wrong Freddy Grey, Eric Garner, George Floyd, and Breanna Taylor were mudered because of police racism/brutality

We still need major police reform and a lot better training

But in Blake was still very much an active threat when he was shot

They let that man walk to his car though. 3 cops couldnt stop him before he got there? Its not like he ran or anything.

He casually walked to the other side of the car. I'm not a cop but if my life was in danger im not letting someone walk to get a weapon if im not incapacitated

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Orestes417
08/30/20 7:32:39 PM
#78:


I4NRulez posted...
They let that man walk to his car though. 3 cops couldnt stop him before he got there? Its not like he ran or anything.

Dude who shot him was literally within range to grab his shirt. Unless he was reaching for a bomb detonator there really is no excuse for them not being able to use other more appropriate means of gaining compliance.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/30/20 7:34:14 PM
#79:


The cops should have just shot the knife out of his hand

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chrono625
08/30/20 7:40:46 PM
#80:


Everyones a Monday morning quarterback.


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hockeybub89
08/30/20 7:43:11 PM
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GS4Life
08/30/20 7:44:17 PM
#82:


I4NRulez posted...
They let that man walk to his car though. 3 cops couldnt stop him before he got there? Its not like he ran or anything.

He casually walked to the other side of the car. I'm not a cop but if my life was in danger im not letting someone walk to get a weapon if im not incapacitated
Allegedly they did try to taze him and it didn't work
They should have been able to stop him before he got in the car

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Orestes417
08/30/20 7:48:20 PM
#83:


GS4Life posted...
Allegedly they did try to taze him and it didn't work
They should have been able to stop him before he got in the car

Three officers, presumably three friction batons between them and probably three sets of tasers against one slowly walking suspect who allowed one officer to literally get close enough to have tackled him as he got into the car... yeah should've been able to stop him is a bit of an understatement.

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 7:48:30 PM
#84:


GS4Life posted...
he resisted arrest and was reaching for a weapon you can't always wait for a worst case scenario when someone is an active threat.
I mean, you definitely can. Bent over with your back showing is not a very offensive position. Police should not be making preemptive shootings and guessing. They could have blown him away later if need be.

If that is the case, then we truly should abolish the police because you can have any random person with a gun do the same police job for free. We pay professionals to do a better job than the average person in their field.

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Forever_Black
08/30/20 7:49:40 PM
#85:


Justice been served. Karma is bitch.

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hockeybub89
08/30/20 7:51:27 PM
#86:


Forever_Black posted...
Justice been served. Karma is bitch.
So should we kill everyone with a warrant? Maybe go in and light up every prison? I mean, who cares? Criminals are bad guys and people who summarily execute them are good guys with a keen sense of justice. We live in a perfect world with perfect government full of perfectly good people after all.

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Wasssup Now
08/30/20 7:55:48 PM
#87:


Kastrada posted...
People were literally advocating for George Floyd's murder because he was a criminal who had used forged money in the past.

It doesn't matter WHO the victim is, people will bring up mundane issues to demonize and celebrate a black person being killed.

Fucking MLK Jr. is STILL being dragged for cheating on his wife.

Rape is mundane. That's some alt right commentary there.

I don't feel like anyone is advocating for police to be judge jury executioner. What that officer did was unacceptable. He needs to face the consequences and be made an example out of.

If we're about to paint murals for Blake and glorify him as some sort of martyr id hope he isn't a rapist.
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Orestes417
08/30/20 7:58:22 PM
#88:


That's the thing about martyrs. They don't need to be good people. Who they are is pretty much irrelevant tbh. What matters is what happened to them, or because of them.

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CloudThunder
08/30/20 7:59:21 PM
#89:


so every time a black man gets shot by police,people dig deep for dirt on the victim to justify the shooting when it had NOTHING TO DO with them being shot in the first place?
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GS4Life
08/30/20 8:00:51 PM
#90:


hockeybub89 posted...
I mean, you definitely can. Bent over with your back showing is not a very offensive position. Police should not be making preemptive shootings and guessing. They could have blown him away later if need be.

If that is the case, then we truly should abolish the police because you can have any random person with a gun do the same police job for free. We pay professionals to do a better job than the average person in their field.
reaching into the car when you don't what they are trying to pull out is a very agressive action and you can't be ever be 100% sure what if he had a gun or someone else already suggested explosive(farfetched but ya get the idea)?

Police 100% need better training I don't think anybody with half of a functioning brain is going to argue that

But they also aren't comic book superheros or action stars in movies that can do boderline super human shit. Cops are human until we get AI cops and lord knows computers have bugs and make errors too.


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Kastrada
08/30/20 8:02:57 PM
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Wasssup Now posted...
Rape is mundane. That's some alt right commentary there.

I don't feel like anyone is advocating for police to be judge jury executioner. What that officer did was unacceptable. He needs to face the consequences and be made an example out of.

If we're about to paint murals for Blake and glorify him as some sort of martyr id hope he isn't a rapist.

Yeah I never said rape was fucking mundane. I said people will bring up mundane shit to vilify black victims no matter what. It doesn't matter of Jacob Blake is a rapist or not to these people. Black men have been murdered by police and people will still bring up inconsequential things to demonize these men.

How the FUCK you got "alt-right" and "rape is mundane" out of that, I will never know.

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Orestes417
08/30/20 8:07:16 PM
#92:


Ironically the fact the cop shot 7 times is probably the best defense he has. It speaks to how poor his training was and might get him off with a relatively light never wearing a badge again. The problem is, it never should've been allowed to get that far. one dude walking slowly, even if he has a knife, should've been face down on the concrete in cuffs well before he got near the car to even think of reaching into it.

Of course then we'd probably be having a discussion about police brutality... but still less of a cluster fuck.

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Gamerguymass
08/30/20 8:13:42 PM
#93:


CloudThunder posted...
so every time a black man gets shot by police,people dig deep for dirt on the victim to justify the shooting when it had NOTHING TO DO with them being shot in the first place?

As opposed to just ignoring it when a white guy is shot. More white people are killed by the police as well as more unarmed white people. Yet how many has the media reported on? But any time a black guy has any type of altercation with the cops its all over the news.

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Tequilawhatitdo
08/30/20 8:21:14 PM
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So wait, was he at the womens house who filed that he sexually assaulted her back in May?

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Slayerblade11
08/30/20 8:21:59 PM
#95:


Orestes417 posted...
Ironically the fact the cop shot 7 times is probably the best defense he has. It speaks to how poor his training was and might get him off with a relatively light never wearing a badge again. The problem is, it never should've been allowed to get that far. one dude walking slowly, even if he has a knife, should've been face down on the concrete in cuffs well before he got near the car to even think of reaching into it.

Of course then we'd probably be having a discussion about police brutality... but still less of a cluster fuck.

Getting into a scuffle with a guy armed with a decently sized knife who just shook off tasers doesn't sound like the best idea.
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Orestes417
08/30/20 8:25:41 PM
#96:


Slayerblade11 posted...
Getting into a scuffle with a guy armed with a decently sized knife who just shook off tasers doesn't sound like the best idea.

That's the job they signed up for. And honestly if they were that worried about the knife then it was supremely stupid of the shooter to be standing where he was.

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Monolith1676
08/30/20 8:30:56 PM
#97:


Tequilawhatitdo posted...
So wait, was he at the womens house who filed that he sexually assaulted her back in May?
That is the story going around.

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Lathissamus
08/30/20 8:34:17 PM
#98:


Maybe follow commands and don't break the law and you won't get shot.

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NinjaWarrior455
08/30/20 8:38:20 PM
#99:


Why are people responding seriously to these trolls that constantly bring up Blake's perceived record? What he did or didn't do makes no fucking difference.

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inloveanddeath0
08/30/20 8:39:27 PM
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Idk why I click these topics

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ReturnOfThaJedi
08/30/20 8:41:13 PM
#101:


Gamerguymass posted...
As opposed to just ignoring it when a white guy is shot. More white people are killed by the police as well as more unarmed white people. Yet how many has the media reported on? But any time a black guy has any type of altercation with the cops its all over the news.
White people get killed by the cops too isnt the argument you think it is and further proves the point that most cops are unfit to do their job.

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