Current Events > If you had the ability to cast a love spell would it be MORALLY WRONG to use it?

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Damn_Underscore 08/29/20 6:52:07 PM #1:	????? Yes No ????? - Results (65 votes) Yes 86.15% (56 votes) 56 No 13.85% (9 votes) 9 80/80 A spell that makes the bewitched person fall in love with you What are your thoughts on this matter? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:943979163] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote> ????? Yes No Vote View Results ????? - Results (65 votes) Yes 86.15% (56 votes) 56 No 13.85% (9 votes) 9 Show Voting Form 80/80 A spell that makes the bewitched person fall in love with you What are your thoughts on this matter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 6:52:42 PM #2:	If you can break the meta, then break it. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943979186] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>If you can break the meta, then break it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/29/20 6:53:41 PM #3:	the type of topic only a kissless incel would make <cite>Reis posted [p:943979229] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>the type of topic only a kissless incel would make </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 08/29/20 6:56:58 PM #4:	Yes it's morally wrong, but it still might turn out just fine anyway and if so, who cares really? Of course this would only be the case if the subject with the power would treat their partner the best way possible and is a good guy/girl. It's definitely dishonorable, though. --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta (hungry ghost) <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:943979329] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Yes it's morally wrong, but it still might turn out just fine anyway and if so, who cares really? Of course this would only be the case if the subject with the power would treat their partner the best way possible and is a good guy/girl. It's definitely dishonorable, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 08/29/20 6:57:27 PM #5:	Reis posted... the type of topic only a kissless incel would make I didn't make this thread tho --- Hello, I lack empathy. I am a certified villain who lacks basic human decency. I laugh at images of sad puppies. I eat animal crackers starting with the head. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:943979343] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted... </cite> <quote>the type of topic only a kissless incel would make</quote>I didn't make this thread tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/29/20 7:09:19 PM #6:	Dude that's straight up rape --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:943979712] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Dude that's straight up rape </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gruntling 08/29/20 7:11:49 PM #7:	That's putting the person against their will, so yes, it is morally wrong. --- *GRUNTLING* Since April 26th, 2003 <cite>Gruntling posted [p:943979784] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>That's putting the person against their will, so yes, it is morally wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 7:15:57 PM #8:	Gruntling posted... That's putting the person against their will, so yes, it is morally wrong. Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943979908] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Gruntling posted... </cite> <quote>That's putting the person against their will, so yes, it is morally wrong.</quote> Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 08/29/20 7:18:31 PM #9:	Reis posted... the type of topic only a kissless incel would make Love potion/spell has been a featured plot line throughout history. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:943979987] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted... </cite> <quote>the type of topic only a kissless incel would make</quote>Love potion/spell has been a featured plot line throughout history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gruntling 08/29/20 7:20:29 PM #10:	Guide posted... Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics. I mean despite them going along with whatever you want, they still didn't make the choice to be in love with you. --- *GRUNTLING* Since April 26th, 2003 <cite>Gruntling posted [p:943980051] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics.</quote>I mean despite them going along with whatever you want, they still didn't make the choice to be in love with you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 08/29/20 7:21:05 PM #11:	What if it turns out she's awful and you want her to no longer be in love with you? Can I reverse the spell? --- "Brief and powerless is Man's life; on him and all his race the slow, sure doom falls pitiless and dark." <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:943980069] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>What if it turns out she's awful and you want her to no longer be in love with you? Can I reverse the spell? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 7:21:43 PM #12:	Gruntling posted... I mean despite them going along with whatever you want, they still didn't make the choice to be in love with you. Does anyone ever make that choice? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943980090] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Gruntling posted... </cite> <quote>I mean despite them going along with whatever you want, they still didn't make the choice to be in love with you.</quote> Does anyone ever make that choice? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/29/20 7:25:30 PM #13:	What if I ask for consent before casting it? --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:943980209] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>What if I ask for consent before casting it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Null_Mime 08/29/20 7:25:51 PM #14:	Yeah... Be sure not to leave your drinks unattended around anyone voting no on this... --- PSN: NullMime Pawn: Cecilia \| 200 \| Mage <cite>Null_Mime posted [p:943980222] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Yeah... Be sure not to leave your drinks unattended around anyone voting no on this... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gruntling 08/29/20 7:26:02 PM #15:	Guide posted... Does anyone ever make that choice? Yes, it's called mutual attraction. --- *GRUNTLING* Since April 26th, 2003 <cite>Gruntling posted [p:943980232] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Does anyone ever make that choice?</quote>Yes, it's called mutual attraction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/29/20 7:27:11 PM #16:	Guide posted... Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics. Their will has been changed because you decided their consent is irrelevant and used magic to forcefully reprogram them into being your lover. That's pretty obviously fucked --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:943980275] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Is it, though? The will has been fundamentally changed. Magic/sufficiently advanced science just kinda ruins our local moralphysics.</quote> Their will has been changed because you decided their consent is irrelevant and used magic to forcefully reprogram them into being your lover. That's pretty obviously fucked </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 7:31:49 PM #17:	Gruntling posted... Yes, it's called mutual attraction. You don't choose who you fall in love with, or who you're attracted to, though. Panthera posted... Their will has been changed because you decided their consent is irrelevant and used magic to forcefully reprogram them into being your lover. That's pretty obviously fucked Forcing someone against their will is fucked, but we change wills all the time via interaction. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943980438] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Gruntling posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, it's called mutual attraction.</quote> You don't choose who you fall in love with, or who you're attracted to, though. Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>Their will has been changed because you decided their consent is irrelevant and used magic to forcefully reprogram them into being your lover. That's pretty obviously fucked</quote> Forcing someone against their will is fucked, but we change wills all the time via interaction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/29/20 7:31:50 PM #18:	AloneIBreak posted... What if it turns out she's awful and you want her to no longer be in love with you? Can I reverse the spell? I don't know what your powers are --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:943980440] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>AloneIBreak posted... </cite> <quote>What if it turns out she's awful and you want her to no longer be in love with you? Can I reverse the spell?</quote> I don't know what your powers are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 08/29/20 7:37:05 PM #19:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Sparks --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:943980610] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Sparks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/29/20 8:55:12 PM #20:	Guide posted... Forcing someone against their will is fucked, but we change wills all the time via interaction. You don't force people though. There's no comparison here, you're forcing someone to do things they don't want to by using your magic date rape spell. You're both forcing yourself on them and fundamentally erasing their freedom/identity --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:943982941] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote> Forcing someone against their will is fucked, but we change wills all the time via interaction.</quote> You don't force people though. There's no comparison here, you're forcing someone to do things they don't want to by using your magic date rape spell. You're both forcing yourself on them and fundamentally erasing their freedom/identity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 9:02:05 PM #21:	Yes, it takes moral agency away from them. Even though they will know no difference in their daily life, the same could be said about a rape victim who was drugged and never found out, so both are morally reprehensible. <cite>nemu posted [p:943983134] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it takes moral agency away from them. Even though they will know no difference in their daily life, the same could be said about a rape victim who was drugged and never found out, so both are morally reprehensible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 9:08:15 PM #22:	Panthera posted... You don't force people though. There's no comparison here, you're forcing someone to do things they don't want to by using your magic date rape spell. You're both forcing yourself on them and fundamentally erasing their freedom/identity But they do want. You've changed what they want. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943983350] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>You don't force people though. There's no comparison here, you're forcing someone to do things they don't want to by using your magic date rape spell. You're both forcing yourself on them and fundamentally erasing their freedom/identity</quote> But they do want. You've changed what they want. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 9:11:05 PM #23:	Guide posted... But they do want. You've changed what they want. That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming, which is very much illegal in the case of minors and heavily frowned upon in the case of insane sex cults. <cite>nemu posted [p:943983445] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>But they do want. You've changed what they want.</quote>That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming, which is very much illegal in the case of minors and heavily frowned upon in the case of insane sex cults. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 08/29/20 9:15:03 PM #24:	nemu posted... That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming, It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:943983562] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming,</quote>It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 9:21:03 PM #25:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting Flirting is a surface level means of convincing someone that you're worth their time. Grooming is purposeful psychological manipulation taking advantage of mental immaturity (children) or mental weakness to make someone believe they want something over a period of months or years. <cite>nemu posted [p:943983757] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting</quote>Flirting is a surface level means of convincing someone that you're worth their time. Grooming is purposeful psychological manipulation taking advantage of mental immaturity (children) or mental weakness to make someone believe they want something over a period of months or years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 08/29/20 9:25:12 PM #26:	Yeah, but you know what? Fuck it. --- https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb <cite>VTBM posted [p:943983874] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but you know what? Fuck it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MT_TRAEH 08/29/20 9:25:50 PM #27:	it is morally wrong but if people could, they would --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>MT_TRAEH posted [p:943983896] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>it is morally wrong but if people could, they would </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hakujo 08/29/20 9:26:28 PM #28:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting except this is a love spell...not flirting --- Stop reading me without consent. <cite>hakujo posted [p:943983910] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>It's also a real life phenomenon called flirting</quote>except this is a love spell...not flirting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 10:05:45 PM #29:	nemu posted... That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming, which is very much illegal in the case of minors and heavily frowned upon in the case of insane sex cults. Yes, but grooming takes advantage of mental weakness, and is only "making them believe" they want something. In this magical case, they actually want something. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943985061] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>That's also a real life phenomenon called grooming, which is very much illegal in the case of minors and heavily frowned upon in the case of insane sex cults.</quote> Yes, but grooming takes advantage of mental weakness, and is only "making them believe" they want something. In this magical case, they actually want something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 10:10:35 PM #30:	Guide posted... Yes, but grooming takes advantage of mental weakness, and is only "making them believe" they want something. In this magical case, they actually want something. The only difference in real vs magic is they cannot later rationalize that they were manipulated. It doesn't change that the initial cause of manipulation is ripping their free will from them via mental manipulation or magic. It's mindrape that leads to real rape. There is no scenario in which the unwilling manipulation of someone's mind can ever be seen as a positive or neutral thing. <cite>nemu posted [p:943985183] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, but grooming takes advantage of mental weakness, and is only "making them believe" they want something. In this magical case, they actually want something.</quote>The only difference in real vs magic is they cannot later rationalize that they were manipulated. It doesn't change that the initial cause of manipulation is ripping their free will from them via mental manipulation or magic. It's mindrape that leads to real rape. There is no scenario in which the unwilling manipulation of someone's mind can ever be seen as a positive or neutral thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 08/29/20 10:16:43 PM #31:	hakujo posted... except this is a love spell...not flirting It's also not grooming so yeah --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:943985329] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>hakujo posted... </cite> <quote>except this is a love spell...not flirting</quote>It's also not grooming so yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 10:21:02 PM #32:	nemu posted... The only difference in real vs magic is they cannot later rationalize that they were manipulated. It doesn't change that the initial cause of manipulation is ripping their free will from them via mental manipulation or magic. It's mindrape that leads to real rape. There is no scenario in which the unwilling manipulation of someone's mind can ever be seen as a positive or neutral thing. It's not ripping free will, though. It is real, actual love, induced by magic, according to the statements made by tc. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943985433] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>The only difference in real vs magic is they cannot later rationalize that they were manipulated. It doesn't change that the initial cause of manipulation is ripping their free will from them via mental manipulation or magic. It's mindrape that leads to real rape. There is no scenario in which the unwilling manipulation of someone's mind can ever be seen as a positive or neutral thing.</quote> It's not ripping free will, though. It is real, actual love, induced by magic, according to the statements made by tc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 08/29/20 10:24:16 PM #33:	Helga was really gonna rape our boy Arnold wasn't she? Damn. --- Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:943985500] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Helga was really gonna rape our boy Arnold wasn't she? Damn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 10:25:35 PM #34:	Guide posted... It's not ripping free will, though. It is real, actual love, induced by magic, according to the statements made by tc. And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status? <cite>nemu posted [p:943985526] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>It's not ripping free will, though. It is real, actual love, induced by magic, according to the statements made by tc.</quote>And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 08/29/20 10:29:15 PM #35:	nemu posted... And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status? Yea none of that shit matters. Looks are irrelevant. I don't know why some people here are arguing otherwise but the rest of us see it for what it is. It is manipulation and it would be rape. --- Why do nerdsalways get caught up on the details? https://imgur.com/dntQM https://imgur.com/9gNcUGM https://imgur.com/bH8vq3f <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:943985637] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status?</quote> Yea none of that shit matters. Looks are irrelevant. I don't know why some people here are arguing otherwise but the rest of us see it for what it is. It is manipulation and it would be rape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/29/20 10:31:22 PM #36:	nemu posted... And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status? I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:943985711] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>And that love is granted through the manipulation of their free will. Imagine the most disgusting troll of a person using such an item on some celebrity. Are you saying that's completely fine because she now truly loves him, or are you only projecting this onto a scenario in which both people are equals in appearance and status?</quote> I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/29/20 10:32:52 PM #37:	Guide posted... I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic. If you're not trolling me, I don't think you understand normal human interactions. <cite>nemu posted [p:943985758] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic.</quote>If you're not trolling me, I don't think you understand normal human interactions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/29/20 10:34:30 PM #38:	So we got some straight up date rapists in this topic. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/M8h2ATe https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:943985795] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>So we got some straight up date rapists in this topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/29/20 10:37:12 PM #39:	Guide posted... I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic. seek help <cite>Reis posted [p:943985868] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, if that's what the celebrity's into. Which she is now. Cause magic.</quote> seek help </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 08/29/20 11:42:11 PM #40:	Yes you could do some really fucked up things with that spell. Like casting it on underage girls. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:943987888] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>Yes you could do some really fucked up things with that spell. Like casting it on underage girls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GGuirao13 08/31/20 1:53:05 AM #42:	It isn't true love if she has no choice. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>GGuirao13 posted [p:944027771] in If you had... [t:78941828]...</cite> <quote>It isn't true love if she has no choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > If you had the ability to cast a love spell would it be MORALLY WRONG to use it?