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Damn_Underscore
08/02/20 1:38:03 AM
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I went to resetera and they were SEETHING at the possibility that the PS5 might have "timed exclusives". I fail to see what's the problem with this

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pepper2012
08/02/20 1:39:12 AM
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Somehow they have convinced themselves its "not fair"

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hockeybub89
08/02/20 1:39:55 AM
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Imagine supporting third party and timed exclusives

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GentlemanGamer
08/02/20 1:45:12 AM
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I really don't see what your opinion about exclusive games has to do with being "far left".
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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 1:53:57 AM
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They hate free markets. Imagine if microsoft had a monopoly on the gaming industry, *shudders*

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nfearurspecimn
08/02/20 1:54:44 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbVScRWnDb8

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GentlemanGamer
08/02/20 2:04:55 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
They hate free markets. Imagine if microsoft had a monopoly on the gaming industry, *shudders*

You think that what the far left wants is monopolies? Umm...
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Extreme_light
08/02/20 2:06:11 AM
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I'm far left and do not care about any timed exclusive.

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vigorm0rtis
08/02/20 2:06:39 AM
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This is a thing. Honest.

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 2:44:53 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
You think that what the far left wants is monopolies? Umm...


The far left? Not only do they want monopolies, they want government run monopolies that operate with impunity

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CADE FOSTER
08/02/20 2:48:29 AM
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ms has no games exclusives sell consoles Sony is smart
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ssjevot
08/02/20 2:49:37 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I went to resetera and they were SEETHING at the possibility that the PS5 might have "timed exclusives". I fail to see what's the problem with this

Reset Era has very few leftists let alone far leftists. Wasn't that place a massive Bernie Sanders fan group and also had no shortage of Biden fans? It's true they ban anyone remotely right leaning, but far left? They also hate on the PRC quite a bit.

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Rhylos
08/02/20 2:57:47 AM
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I don't understand why you wouldn't want every game on every platform. For devs/publishers, it would mean getting your games to as many people as possible, and for customers it would mean playing on your preferred platform.

But no, we have whiny babies who want to feel justified in their console purchase.
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treewojima
08/02/20 3:00:07 AM
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I'm far left and what is this
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DarthAragorn
08/02/20 3:02:46 AM
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I'm center right (well I thought so at least, in current America I might be solid left) and think exclusives are dumb and games should be available on any platform that can run them
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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 3:20:34 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I'm center right (well I thought so at least, in current America I might be solid left) and think exclusives are dumb and games should be available on any platform that can run them


Well, if you're even slightly right leaning economically you should know competition is inherently a good thing that provides consumers superior products at lower prices.

If Nintendo had continued unopposed dominance of household gaming since the 90s consoles and games would cost more cause who else are you gonna go to? Hell n64 games cost more in the late 90s than brand new AAA games cost today over two decades later.

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pegusus123456
08/02/20 3:23:17 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Well, if you're even slightly right leaning economically you should know competition is inherently a good thing that provides consumers superior products at lower prices.

If Nintendo had continued unopposed dominance of household gaming since the 90s consoles and games would cost more cause who else are you gonna go to? Hell n64 games cost more in the late 90s than brand new AAA games cost today over two decades later.
Exclusives aren't beneficial competition for the consumer.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/02/20 3:34:03 AM
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Why do the far right want to give Mario and Zelda guns? Those aren't those kind of games damnit!

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 3:43:18 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Exclusives aren't beneficial competition for the consumer.


They aren't? Sony has financed a big chunk of the best games this gen to get a competitive edge on microsoft. And it worked, for them and for you(if you own a ps4 that is)

Think of industries that face the least amount of competition. They're largely the industries most people complain about the service they receive(utilities)

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MarqueeSeries
08/02/20 3:46:15 AM
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treewojima posted...
I'm far left and what is this

This

Why is it almost always the most uneducated people assigning wild claims and generalizations to the far left
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JE19426
08/02/20 3:47:58 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Well, if you're even slightly right leaning economically you should know competition is inherently a good thing that provides consumers superior products at lower prices.

If Nintendo had continued unopposed dominance of household gaming since the 90s consoles and games would cost more cause who else are you gonna go to? Hell n64 games cost more in the late 90s than brand new AAA games cost today over two decades later.

It's strange people defend exclusives by arguing for competition. News flash if you can only get an item in one place, you don't have competition. I don't have a problem with people choosing to only release on one platform but your argument is dumb as hell.
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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 3:49:54 AM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
This

Why is it almost always the most uneducated people assigning wild claims and generalizations to the far left


Oh, sorry. I thought "far" left (or right) is usually meant to imply extreamist views. My bad, you must of meant far moderate left, lol

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pegusus123456
08/02/20 3:50:45 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
They aren't? Sony has financed a big chunk of the best games this gen to get a competitive edge on microsoft. And it worked, for them and for you(if you own a ps4 that is)
It's in the developer's interest to make the best games possible though. They would exist even without console exclusivity.

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Zeromous375
08/02/20 3:50:59 AM
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As a person who plays 70% Fighting games and 20% MMOs, I WISH most games were cross-play. You can have your "timed exclusives" but when the same game is on other platforms cross-play should be default.

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GentlemanGamer
08/02/20 5:05:42 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
The far left? Not only do they want monopolies, they want government run monopolies that operate with impunity

The far left has a lot of different ideological thought with the consistent goal of workers owning the means of production, some don't even want a state to exist, and some even want market socialism where industry is private but corporations are collectively owned and operated, so this is a pretty broad brush to paint the left with.
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TheMikh
08/02/20 5:23:44 AM
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ssjevot posted...
They also hate on the PRC quite a bit.

the far left hates the prc because it hasn't been "real communism" since deng took the reins

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Mibahlzitch
08/02/20 5:25:27 AM
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Far...left? I'm pretty damn left and I have no idea what that's about. Of course, I'm getting a ps5 too because Sony has all the games and basically has since Nintendo failed to get that disc based system deal with them going.

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Mibahlzitch
08/02/20 5:26:46 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Well, if you're even slightly right leaning economically you should know competition is inherently a good thing that provides consumers superior products at lower prices.

If Nintendo had continued unopposed dominance of household gaming since the 90s consoles and games would cost more cause who else are you gonna go to? Hell n64 games cost more in the late 90s than brand new AAA games cost today over two decades later.

Also n64 games cost more BECAUSE they're out of print, dude. Have you ever looked up old games on ebay? A lot of them are expensive now.

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ssjevot
08/02/20 5:56:31 AM
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He said late 90s. He was talking about when they were released. They cost much more to produce than CDs, but it's also true their retail price at the time adjusted for inflation is much higher than a new game now. He isn't talking about used games.

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ssjevot
08/02/20 5:57:39 AM
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TheMikh posted...
the far left hates the prc because it hasn't been "real communism" since deng took the reins

Please tell that to r/communism, r/socialism, or any other major leftist subreddit and let me know how quickly you get banned.

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 9:03:23 AM
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Mibahlzitch posted...
Also n64 games cost more BECAUSE they're out of print, dude. Have you ever looked up old games on ebay? A lot of them are expensive now.


They were more expensive back then brand new. Which was mostly because nintendo insisted on sticking to cartridges that were more expensive to produce and harder to replicate for piracy

Sony becoming their biggest competitor in the home gaming console market pushed the industry forward and was good for consumers

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Shablagoo
08/02/20 9:09:01 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
The far left has a lot of different ideological thought with the consistent goal of workers owning the means of production, some don't even want a state to exist, and some even want market socialism where industry is private but corporations are collectively owned and operated, so this is a pretty broad brush to paint the left with.

No, no, dont you see? Communism, which advocates for a stateless society, clearly wants society to be run by a state.

/Solid Snake07 logic

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 9:13:25 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
No, no, dont you see? Communism, which advocates for a stateless society, clearly wants society to be run by a state.

/Solid Snake07 logic


Lol "stateless society"?

It amazes me how out of touch so many people are with human nature

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AsucaHayashi
08/02/20 9:15:25 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Sony becoming their biggest competitor in the home gaming console market pushed the industry forward and was good for consumers
that had little to do with the games but the actual format, ie. the huge benefits of the hardware which is how it should always be.

the funny thing is the tables have completely turned and now sony is the one holding games hostage to the benefit of nobody whereas nintendo is the one pushing the industry forward by focusing on the benefits of its hardware that became so popular they made a smaller and completely mobile version of it... which again is how it should always be.

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GentlemanGamer
08/02/20 9:15:40 AM
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What do you think is human nature? and if you think a strong state is human nature, why do you think the alleged far left dream of a strong state is not human nature?
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Shablagoo
08/02/20 9:16:12 AM
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Dont get upset at me because you refuse to learn basic political terminology.

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SSJKirby
08/02/20 9:44:08 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78885999 ?

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 9:48:23 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
What do you think is human nature? and if you think a strong state is human nature, why do you think the alleged far left dream of a strong state is not human nature?


I think if someone thinks millions of people are gonna act all kumbaya and communal without a strong central government they are extreamly naive

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MarqueeSeries
08/02/20 9:51:29 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...
This

Why is it almost always the most uneducated people assigning wild claims and generalizations to the far left


Oh, sorry. I thought "far" left (or right) is usually meant to imply extreamist views. My bad, you must of meant far moderate left, lol

Thanks for reaffirming my claim
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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 9:52:56 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Dont get upset at me because you refuse to learn basic political terminology.


No one's mad, you're just talking nonsense

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Shablagoo
08/02/20 9:53:17 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I think someone thinks millions of people are gonna act all kumbaya and communal without a strong central government they are extreamly naive

Always funny to see someone endorse the very thing they criticized others for allegedly endorsing earlier in the very same topic lmao

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Shablagoo
08/02/20 9:55:02 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...


No one's mad, you're just talking nonsense

Does it boost your ego to make grandiose statements on politics without even knowing the basic terminology of the subject, or what? Just trying to understand your motives.

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 9:56:35 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Always funny to see someone endorse the very thing they criticized others for allegedly endorsing earlier in the very same topic lmao


What am I endorsing? A strong central government?

Lol fuck no. I'm just pointing out contradictions in the thinking that someone can be both socialist and pro small government. That's silly

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 10:00:41 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Does it boost your ego to make grandiose statements on politics without even knowing the basic terminology of the subject, or what? Just trying to understand your motives.


What terminology do I not understand now?

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averagejoel
08/02/20 10:02:47 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Well, if you're even slightly right leaning economically you should know competition is inherently a good thing that provides consumers superior products at lower prices.
and if a game is exclusive to one system, it is not competition. it is a monopoly.

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 10:11:44 AM
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averagejoel posted...
and if a game is exclusive to one system, it is not competition. it is a monopoly.


Lol, this is like saying burger king has a monopoly on whoppers

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Lordgold666
08/02/20 10:12:16 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
I really don't see what your opinion about exclusive games has to do with being "far left".


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averagejoel
08/02/20 10:16:34 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Lol, this is like saying burger king has a monopoly on whoppers
superficially, yes. however, my statement is significantly less stupid than that. are you capable of actually engaging with the idea I presented, or will you insist on making stupid comparisons?

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Shablagoo
08/02/20 10:21:02 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
What terminology do I not understand now?

Communism, for one.

Solid Snake07 posted...
I'm just pointing out contradictions in the thinking that someone can be both socialist and pro small government. That's silly

Well I was speaking of communism since you specified far left. Communism is inherently for small/no government, and was defined as such from the beginning. Its in the name itself.

And your insistence that the left supports monopolies is so absurd and showing such a complete lack of historical knowledge that I dont even know why Im bothering to respond to you.

In Marxism, Marx's theory of the state considers that in a post-capitalist society the state, an undesirable institution, would be unnecessary and wither away.[14] A related concept is that of stateless communism, a phrase sometimes used to describe Marx's anticipated post-capitalist society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 10:27:31 AM
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averagejoel posted...
superficially, yes. however, my statement is significantly less stupid than that. are you capable of actually engaging with the idea I presented, or will you insist on making stupid comparisons?


No it's exacly as stupid cause it's the same thing. Product branding isn't a monopoly. Leveraging all other competition out of the the market is a monopoly.

Just cause burger king sells whoppers doesn't mean mcdonalds can't sell a burger on a sesame seed bun with mayo lettuce onion and tomato. Just because sony developed the last of us doesn't mean other developers can't make survival horror games.

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