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ThunderTrain
07/17/20 1:06:09 PM
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When they're just gonna be closed again in October once cases spike within the schools.

Why not spend time to try and come up with a way to make online learning better and more efficient?


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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:07:25 PM
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The quarantine has been extremely detrimental towards the mental health of children. Combine that with the failure that learning from home was and opening schools in September is absolutely necessary.

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R1masher
07/17/20 1:08:25 PM
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Ever been to a zoo?

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Proto_Spark
07/17/20 1:08:38 PM
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Because **** you, don't you know you not dying is bad for the economy?
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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:09:18 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The quarantine has been extremely detrimental towards the mental health of children. Combine that with the failure that learning from home was and opening schools in September is absolutely necessary.
Until parents and teachers get infected.

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ThunderTrain
07/17/20 1:09:21 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The quarantine has been extremely detrimental towards the mental health of children. Combine that with the failure that learning from home was and opening schools in September is absolutely necessary.

If they are in school, they still won't be able to socialize like they did before. And like I just said, school has been over for a month already and that time could've been used to make online learning better.

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:09:48 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Because **** you, don't you know you not dying is bad for the economy?

The kids wont just die....

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Thompson
07/17/20 1:11:00 PM
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Kids becoming a vector to the disease and spreading it to other kids, their parents, grandparents, teachers, janitors and so on, is very good for the economy.
Somehow.

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Were_Wyrm
07/17/20 1:11:02 PM
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Need to teach kids science so they take this shit seriously.

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:11:10 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The quarantine has been extremely detrimental towards the mental health of children. Combine that with the failure that learning from home was and opening schools in September is absolutely necessary.
This is the dumbest fucking take I have ever seen.
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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:11:11 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The kids wont just die....
No, they'll just pass on a novel respiratory disease to school staff and their parents. The kids will live to see their guardians get sick, possibly in the ICU, and possibly die.

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:16:37 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
This is the dumbest fucking take I have ever seen.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/return-school-september-pandemic-cheo-1.5641613

Incase youd like to enlighten yourself

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:17:40 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
No, they'll just pass on a novel respiratory disease to school staff and their parents. The kids will live to see their guardians get sick, possibly in the ICU, and possibly die.

Does everyone who has 5 year olds also live with their grandparents? Is this an American thing ? Like yall dont have a separate house ?
Grandparents are higher risk so kids dont see them it's really not hard

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:18:35 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/return-school-september-pandemic-cheo-1.5641613

Incase youd like to enlighten yourself
You realize that the situation is WILDLY different in the U.S., right?

Both of your takes are stupid.

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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:19:03 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/return-school-september-pandemic-cheo-1.5641613

Incase youd like to enlighten yourself
Upon reading that article, I'm inclined to agree with _Rinku_.

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ThunderTrain
07/17/20 1:19:17 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/return-school-september-pandemic-cheo-1.5641613

Incase youd like to enlighten yourself

Thats Canada so it has nothing to do with the USA

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:19:29 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
You realize that the situation is WILDLY different in the U.S., right?

Both of your takes are stupid.

Oh shit yes my bad the United states is the only country that got the coronavirus outbreak

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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:20:17 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Does everyone who has 5 year olds also live with their grandparents? Is this an American thing ? Like yall dont have a separate house ?
Grandparents are higher risk so kids dont see them it's really not hard
Do children live in isolation chambers once they get home, or are their parents also magically immune?

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:20:17 PM
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Furthermore explain to me how my kid that lives with me is somehow gunna spread coronavirus to his grandparents who like nornal adults live in a separate house from us ?

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:21:01 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Do children live in isolation chambers once they get home, or are their parents also magically immune?

Do kids of essential workers have to live alone without their parents or are essential workers somehow immune to the disease ?

Like use your brain

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PompousAss
07/17/20 1:21:31 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Furthermore explain to me how my kid that lives with me is somehow gunna spread coronavirus to his grandparents who like nornal adults live in a separate house from us ?

Your posts are bad and you should feel bad. But hey, Trump slurper gonna slurp, right?
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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:21:37 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Do kids of essential workers have to live alone without their parents or as essential workers somehow immune to the disease ?

Like use your brain
You're so, so close to the point. Reach out. You can touch it.

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:22:51 PM
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PompousAss posted...
Your posts are bad and you should feel bad. But hey, Trump slurper gonna slurp, right?

Proudly not an American so while you let daddy trump call the shots for you I'm over here in a country that managed to not fuck everything up

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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:23:16 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Proudly not an American so while you let daddy trump call the shots for you I'm over here in a country that managed to not fuck everything up
...but is fully prepared to, apparently. Good luck.

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:23:31 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Is there actual data on that?

Most schools closed like 1.5-2 months before summer break. It can't be that dramatic. Or are people just using "the kids mental health!" To push an agenda.

Read the article I posted
I'm sure no one actually will because CE gunna CE

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:23:41 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Oh shit yes my bad the United states is the only country that got the coronavirus outbreak
You're on an American site, with a largely American userbase, and discussing an issue (schools reopening being a critically bad idea) that is primarily American.

Sorry that you lack the capacity to think outside your own little province, but you should be more aware of where you are online. Other countries aren't having this heated of a discussion because they're either being sensible about it or they already have the situation under control. The U.S. is doing neither of these.

Also, for your information, lots of kids live with or stay with their grandparents a lot. I grew up in my grandmother's house with her watching me while my mom worked. I have cousins and friends who cannot work without being able to leave their children with the grandparents. These people cannot afford daycare or not working.
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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:24:14 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
...but is fully prepared to, apparently. Good luck.

Kids going back to school is necessary and wont cause a spike.

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Extreme_light
07/17/20 1:25:20 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Does everyone who has 5 year olds also live with their grandparents? Is this an American thing ? Like yall dont have a separate house ?
Grandparents are higher risk so kids dont see them it's really not hard

Kids goes to all manner of family or guardians after school. Some parents may still be working so the most reliable person tend to be a grandparent who isn't working. For some people, it's just not possible to simply "don't see them".

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:25:29 PM
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Really weird that someone would keep an account for two decades just to make insincere posts like that.
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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:25:54 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Kids going back to school is necessary and wont cause a spike.
I'm fuzzy on GameFAQs tradition, especially in the morning - would this be something one would screenshot for later?

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ShotgunSilencer
07/17/20 1:27:16 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The quarantine has been extremely detrimental towards the mental health of children. Combine that with the failure that learning from home was and opening schools in September is absolutely necessary.

Yez cuz dying or having their friends or parents die will be just great for their mental health.

I have given out so many tags during all this. So many fucking idiots

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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:29:13 PM
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Extreme_light posted...
Kids goes to all manner of family or guardians after school. Some parents may still be working so the most reliable person tend to be a grandparent who isn't working. For some people, it's just not possible to simply "don't see them".

The solution is use someone else. Pay a sitter, find a relative who isnt 90 years old, change jobs, anything. It's not great but we cant have all the kids literally staying home til 2030 because it's more convenient for some parents

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:30:37 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The solution is use someone else. Pay a sitter, find a relative who isnt 90 years old, change jobs, anything. It's not great but we cant have all the kids literally staying home til 2030 because it's more convenient for some parents
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DevsBro
07/17/20 1:31:05 PM
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Saving face for Trump.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/17/20 1:31:45 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The solution is use someone else. Pay a sitter, find a relative who isnt 90 years old, change jobs, anything. It's not great but we cant have all the kids literally staying home til 2030 because it's more convenient for some parents

Yeah, just choose one of the jobs available right now. Easy as that everybody. Jeez you guys are so silly. Just go grab one those jobs conveniently waiting for you in this pandemic.

Also, jumping 10 years in the future isn't a dumb dramatic claim either. So don't dare attack him for saying sensible things

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gamestunner
07/17/20 1:32:42 PM
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Kids may not get sick right? Ok.

But what about them carrying it, and bringing it home and making someone in household sick?
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pepper2012
07/17/20 1:32:45 PM
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Why is it that you want the best thing for the majority of people to be dismissed because it inconveniences the minority ?

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Questionmarktarius
07/17/20 1:33:09 PM
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It's cheaper than having to actually give a shit about, or even look at, the severe childcare disaster.
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DevsBro
07/17/20 1:33:22 PM
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gamestunner posted...
Kids may not get sick right? Ok.

But what about them carrying it, and bringing it home and making someone in household sick?
What is this logic crap

If we open schools it means Trump was right, simple as that

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The23rdMagus
07/17/20 1:33:55 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Why is it that you want the best thing for the majority of people to be dismissed because it inconveniences the minority ?
You mean like masks, shelter-in-place, and social distancing guidelines?

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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:34:08 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
Why is it that you want the best thing for the majority of people to be dismissed because it inconveniences the minority ?
"All the other adults at school won't get sick from the literal hundreds of super spreaders under their supervision!"

Think for five minutes.
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Extreme_light
07/17/20 1:34:31 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The solution is use someone else. Pay a sitter, find a relative who isnt 90 years old, change jobs, anything. It's not great but we cant have all the kids literally staying home til 2030 because it's more convenient for some parents

Pay a sitter: So expose yet another person to a potential risk. Also relying on the parent being able to throw out cash for this and trust that the sitter doesn't have covid in the first place.
Find a relative who isn't 90: Or the current age risk of 65. Easier said than done.
Change jobs: You... have seen the current state of affair no?????
Anything: We are in the middle of a pandemic and economic recession. Move schools to online while offering resources to those without internet connection, delay the semester, or don't penalize students/teacher for not coming.

I mean the solutions are there. But the risk doesn't disappear lmao.

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SevenTenths
07/17/20 1:35:59 PM
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the point is many people rely on schools to be free daycare while they work.

Trump doesn't care about this or the health concerns, he just wants them back to working for his friends and to try to say in November the economy is better under him than Obama.

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Woodger
07/17/20 1:37:00 PM
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Maybe everyone can just stay home for a month, but actually this time, then the virus will be gone in time for September.
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darkbuster
07/17/20 1:37:43 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
The solution is use someone else. Pay a sitter, find a relative who isnt 90 years old, change jobs, anything. It's not great but we cant have all the kids literally staying home til 2030 because it's more convenient for some parents

A lot of parents can't afford a sitter, which is why grandparents are present. Changing jobs is difficult by nature, even more so when many are suffering or closing from the pressures of COVID measures. Doesn't help that it's rather common for many American children are raised more by their grandparents than their parents. Childcare is a real issue in America; the fact that school basically was free daycare with meals for a lot of parents just became more apparent, & partially why sending them back so their parents can return to work, is such an issue.

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Questionmarktarius
07/17/20 1:39:12 PM
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Woodger posted...
Maybe everyone can just stay home for a month
Without an absurdly unprecedented delivery network for food and other necessities, this is just fantasy.
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alimajor
07/17/20 1:39:15 PM
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Not everyone benefits from virtual learning. Poorer students with limited access to devices to access their classes, slow or non existent internet in their homes. Some students actually rely on social services provided by schools to eat and be taken care of in lieu of their parents not being able to be around all of the time.

Youd also see an increase in students dropping out so that their younger siblings can continue to learn while they have to take on responsibilities that their parents leave behind so they can work and this would greatly affect girls more than boys. If a parent does have to stay home typically the woman would have to make a sacrifice to her career because she earns less than her partner.

Ultimately theyre going to have to go back eventually or a lot of children will get left behind and that will set back generations of families. Proper precautions and investments should be made. Masks should be worn and their shouldnt even be an option not to. Teachers who are at risk should be taken care of with proper accommodations. Countries like France and Denmark have already started to send their children back so well have to learn from them on whats right
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_Rinku_
07/17/20 1:40:59 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
the point is many people rely on schools to be free daycare while they work.

Trump doesn't care about this or the health concerns, he just wants them back to working for his friends and to try to say in November the economy is better under him than Obama.
The more insidious side is that Trump wants schools to be forced to close down. His administration has already threatened to withhold funding from schools that won't hold in person class. This is an obvious scheme on the part of Betsy Devos to ultimately shut down public schools and funnel federal money into private schools.
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