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berlyman101 07/15/20 11:56:38 AM #51: |
tigerslashII posted...
I don't mind wearing a mask, I mind the connotations it carries. Few things we choose to wear are without symbolism and in a time when mask-wearing is a political statement, choosing to wear a mask pretty much defines which side of the aisle you're on. I'm sure they're somewhat effective, though clearly not the silver bullet people seem to think they are, but with the rate of infection being so high, it's not a matter of "if" you're going to catch it so much as "when". Wearing a mask might prevent me (or people around me) from getting the coronavirus right now, but eventually we're all going to catch it. And when what you're doing isn't saving lives so much as slightly delaying an inevitability, well... it's hard to give a damn. masks help prevent spread. it's that simple. and you're worried about what other people will think of you in the defining moment of our lives. people like you suck. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow Don 07/15/20 11:58:47 AM #52: |
tigerslashII posted...
I don't mind wearing a mask, I mind the connotations it carries. Few things we choose to wear are without symbolism and in a time when mask-wearing is a political statement, choosing to wear a mask pretty much defines which side of the aisle you're on. I'm sure they're somewhat effective, though clearly not the silver bullet people seem to think they are, but with the rate of infection being so high, it's not a matter of "if" you're going to catch it so much as "when". Wearing a mask might prevent me (or people around me) from getting the coronavirus right now, but eventually we're all going to catch it. And when what you're doing isn't saving lives so much as slightly delaying an inevitability, well... it's hard to give a damn. Yea let's just all catch it at the same time and see what happens to our hospitals. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tigerslashII 07/15/20 12:00:30 PM #53: |
Shadow Don posted...
Yea let's just all catch it at the same time and see what happens to our hospitals.Well, and this is important, back when everything was peaking, we were still being told not to wear masks. And we were still being told not to wear masks when things started opening up after the peak, and we didn't see an increase. And then we were forced to wear masks as things continued to open, and we saw spikes in cases again. Masks aren't a silver bullet. --- Get a loada this guy here. https://imgur.com/5fTKLaM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Austin_Era_II 07/15/20 12:05:19 PM #54: |
Yes everyone in the world in their lifetime now will get the virus. Where did you come up with this logic? Does everyone in their lifetime get the flu also?
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DevsBro 07/15/20 12:08:11 PM #55: |
tigerslashII posted...
with the rate of infection being so high, it's not a matter of "if" you're going to catch it so much as "when"Not necessarily. Vaccine progress so far is looking promising af. Covid doesn't appear to mutate quickly, and there are a number of candidate vaccines that are coming along at breakneck speeds. Some optimistic figures put a vaccine being distributed as early as November, which if you went on lockdown in March, we're now halfway there. It's absolutely plausible to make it to a vaccine without ever contracting the virus. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow Don 07/15/20 12:11:27 PM #56: |
Maybe you should take a look at other countries to determine the effectiveness of masks, not states in the US wherein a significant portion of the population think the virus is fake news and are happily attending covid parties.
And it's not supposed to be a silver bullet. All that matters is dropping the transmission rate which in turn drops the reproduction number and if masks do that even in the slightest way then it will save lives. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3Dm 07/15/20 12:19:05 PM #57: |
It is quite important to wear mask. But when the masses are in revolt, the authorities should rather present educational facts to convince the masses to wear mask. Of course, this is for the good of the public. A well informed fellow wouldn't wait to be reminded to wear mask, regardless of if the virus is a hoax or not. Prevention is better than cure.
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onedarksoul 07/15/20 12:21:05 PM #58: |
scorpion41 posted...
Its because of the flip flopping the CDC did over them early on...and people not knowing how masks actually work.Thats weird. The experts didn't have their shit together at the start of this? Thought it was all Trump's fault. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78785005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 07/15/20 12:21:49 PM #59: |
Why use condoms they arent perfect is the anti-mask philosophy
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DevsBro 07/15/20 12:25:42 PM #60: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why use condoms they arent perfect is the anti-mask philosophyA better analogy is somebody I don't like told me using a condom is a good idea so I'm not gonna do it. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 07/15/20 12:27:26 PM #61: |
onedarksoul posted...
Thats weird. The experts didn't have their shit together at the start of this? Thought it was all Trump's fault. Part of it was assuming the infected would be smart about it, so they said only the sick should wear masks. But, then the infected were dumb asses, plus the asymptomatic carriers not knowing they were carriers, so they recommended masks for everyone. Trump not closing borders back in November/December was just the icing on the shit cake. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Austin_Era_II 07/15/20 12:30:29 PM #62: |
Yeah lets not use a condom cause STIs are increasing each year and the chance of a baby is high. Oh look now I have a baby and can't support the child nor myself. Who will help me? Call me whatever but I generally don't help people like that. It's similar to people who drink and drive. You all are playing with fire and if shit gets fucked up they come running to rich people for help. Man up, you fucked up. Excuses, excuses.
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SamWincester 07/15/20 12:35:21 PM #63: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
SamWincester posted... That's not how it works. As long as I'm allowed to go into public spaces without a mask, I will continue to do so. There are very few places I've encountered that strictly enforce the rules regarding mask use. I do comply if I'm not given the choice. --- Supernatural fan fiction follower ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 12:40:52 PM #64: |
the rest of the world over there laughing their asses off watching America meltdown over some silly shit like getting a haircut, wearing a mask, and not being able to abuse your power to terrorize minorities
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Ruvan22 07/15/20 12:43:24 PM #65: |
onedarksoul posted...
Thats weird. The experts didn't have their shit together at the start of this? Thought it was all Trump's fault. Which experts do you expect to have all the information before evidence/research was done? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 12:46:13 PM #66: |
onedarksoul posted...
Thats weird. The experts didn't have their shit together at the start of this? Thought it was all Trump's fault. I mean...all the government departments that are supposed to deal with this shit got huge budget cuts so trump could give the rich a tax break so Im not sure what angle you are going for --- Quit Crying ... Copied to Clipboard!
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onedarksoul 07/15/20 12:49:46 PM #67: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Which experts do you expect to have all the information before evidence/research was done?Keep providing cover for these guys Like there's never been airborne pandemics before josifrees posted... I mean...all the government departments that are supposed to deal with this shit got huge budget cuts so trump could give the rich a tax break so Im not sure what angle you are going forProve it --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78785005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/15/20 1:21:24 PM #68: |
onedarksoul posted...
Keep providing cover for these guys You believe all airborne pandemics have the same infection methods, mortality rate, etc? And again which specific experts should have "had their shit together"? Keep providing cover for Trump who disbanded part of the pandemic response team ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 1:21:52 PM #69: |
onedarksoul posted...
Keep providing cover for these guys do your own homework --- Quit Crying ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 07/15/20 1:23:10 PM #70: |
SamWincester posted...
How would that change things? I'm opposed to masks, and it has nothing to do with Trump. They're too hard to breathe in and so uncomfortable that I constantly have to reposition it if wearing one.If doctors can perform surgery for hours in one you'll be just fine. Shut the fuck up crybaby. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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onedarksoul 07/15/20 1:29:56 PM #71: |
Ruvan22 posted...
You believe all airborne pandemics have the same infection methods, mortality rate, etc?Are you trying to say they might not have known know how it was spread, despite it being in the name (coronavirus), or how to inform people to shield themselves from that. Interesting. Some experts we have. Which specific experts should've been on the ball you ask: CDC Director. Surgeon General. Head of Infectious diseases at NIH. etc. etc. josifrees posted... do your own homeworkI'll assume you're making stuff up and keep moving. Doesn't bother me. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78785005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 1:43:06 PM #72: |
onedarksoul posted...
Are you trying to say they might not have known know how it was spread, despite it being in the name (coronavirus), or how to inform people to shield themselves from that. Interesting. Some experts we have. Which specific experts should've been on the ball you ask: CDC Director. Surgeon General. Head of Infectious diseases at NIH. etc. etc. not my job to educate you, you know everything you should know the facts already --- Quit Crying ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SamWincester 07/15/20 1:51:58 PM #73: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
SamWincester posted...How would that change things? I'm opposed to masks, and it has nothing to do with Trump. They're too hard to breathe in and so uncomfortable that I constantly have to reposition it if wearing one.If doctors can perform surgery for hours in one you'll be just fine. Shut the fuck up crybaby. Doctors don't have a choice about wearing a mask. The situations aren't comparable. --- Supernatural fan fiction follower ... Copied to Clipboard!
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onedarksoul 07/15/20 1:55:13 PM #74: |
josifrees posted...
not my job to educate you, you know everything you should know the facts alreadyI'm not asking for education. You made a sweeping claim and can't prove it. This is simple stuff, but you're making it weird. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78785005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 2:00:27 PM #75: |
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onedarksoul 07/15/20 2:03:35 PM #76: |
Thanks for the link.
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Austin_Era_II 07/15/20 2:06:56 PM #77: |
Shut the fuck up
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SolidShadow3 07/15/20 2:15:14 PM #78: |
I look forward to Mortal Kombat while buying my groceries. If its covered in blood I might get a discount.
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Shadow Don 07/15/20 2:21:41 PM #79: |
SamWincester posted...
Doctors don't have a choice about wearing a mask. The situations aren't comparable. And if a private company has a dress code then you don't have a choice about that if you want to be on the property of that private company so get fucked crybaby. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 07/15/20 2:24:38 PM #80: |
Shirts make me sweat how come I have to wear one
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SamWincester 07/15/20 5:40:03 PM #81: |
Shadow Don posted...
SamWincester posted...Doctors don't have a choice about wearing a mask. The situations aren't comparable. No need for the insults. I wear a mask if it is required, but most places in my area are lax about the rules. I won't suffer through wearing one if I can avoid it. --- Supernatural fan fiction follower ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow Don 07/15/20 7:40:35 PM #82: |
SamWincester posted...
No need for the insults. I wear a mask if it is required, but most places in my area are lax about the rules. I won't suffer through wearing one if I can avoid it. You aren't "suffering" through anything lmfao. Love that these hardcore freedom or die types literally cannot make it 10 minutes wearing a mask in their daily KFC run. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 07/15/20 8:14:16 PM #83: |
It's really weird how wearing a mask to protect your countrymen is somehow equivalent to individual liberties being stripped
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orangefire25 07/15/20 8:18:30 PM #84: |
I just saw a FB post saying this same anti mask shit happened in 1918 and was a good indicator of why it got so bad then. I have to research that.. Anyone heard that before?
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Austin_Era_II 07/15/20 8:21:51 PM #85: |
Never heard that. Think the media would have mentioned that already no?
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Shadow Don 07/15/20 9:19:15 PM #86: |
orangefire25 posted...
I just saw a FB post saying this same anti mask shit happened in 1918 and was a good indicator of why it got so bad then. I have to research that.. Anyone heard that before? Just finished a book on the 1918 pandemic. A lot of weird and crazy stuff happened. Nobody should panic because "it's only the flu" was a common sentiment just before the second wave really kicked off. That sentiment changed pretty quickly because in the following weeks the general consensus was that a calamity of biblical proportions was upon the people. Spitting in the street could get you beaten and arrested. A rumor floated around that dogs were carriers of the disease and people turned in their family pets to the police to be executed Another rumor was that this disease was an attack by Germany (remember this started right at the end of WW1) and there were accounts of Germans being murdered and hung in the streets. Parents would die in their beds from a violent pneumonia and their spouses would lay in that same bed still alive but immobile from the disease, covered in feces and blood while their children cried and starved in the room over. Family and friends wouldn't even enter to save that child too terrified to be themselves infected. There were accounts of trains leaving in one station in India with the living and arriving at their destination a day later with carts full of dead. You know... just shit like that. There weren't a whole lot of freedom or die anti-mask types roaming around after the second wave. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Kush- 07/15/20 9:31:40 PM #87: |
The 2nd wave hit hard.
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orangefire25 07/16/20 5:23:59 AM #88: |
Shadow Don posted...
There weren't a whole lot of freedom or die anti-mask types roaming around after the second wave.So by the looks of it, with covid-19 we'll again have to wait for a second wave before people really take this serious. --- "Shut up Blanc! Shut up with that Kentucky-fried foghorn Leghorn drawllll!" - Hugh Ransom Drysdale ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 07/16/20 8:21:21 AM #89: |
Shadow Don posted...
Just finished a book on the 1918 pandemic.Man, imagine living in a world where people take stuff seriously instead of denying to the death anything that could be construed as a loss for your team. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 07/16/20 8:41:12 AM #90: |
MutantJohn posted...
It's really weird how wearing a mask to protect your countrymen is somehow equivalent to individual liberties being stripped People have forgotten what it means to be patriotic. To them, it's all about getting drunk & showing off your guns every 4th of July. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Austin_Era_II 07/16/20 8:47:09 AM #91: |
When the 2nd wave hits (and it will) depending on the numbers if it's high like Spanish Flu I can see these people not wanting to wear masks sweating their ass and putting one on. The Spanish Flu showed the power of a virus that is transmitted from human to human. Once these non-mask people see their kids or partner shitting in bed and bleeding dying then they'll understand. Sometimes sadly there needs to be an impact in someone's life before they make certain changes for the better.
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DevsBro 07/16/20 8:50:56 AM #92: |
Austin_Era_II posted...
When the 2nd wave hits (and it will) depending on the numbers if it's high like Spanish Flu I can see these people not wanting to wear masks sweating their ass and putting one on.I can't. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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